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A 50% jump in speed would not usually occur even over a couple of generations of MacBook pro. For instance the Geekbench scores for the low end 2014 15 inch MacBook pro gets around 3100 and the 16 inch mac book pro is 5380(ish) with 2 more cores. Over a 5 year period it has not doubled. So to get 50% extra for a software update seems great for me.
 
Does anyone know if the M1 processor is susceptible to speculative execution (SPECTRE) flaws? If you are running on an intel chip at the moment, chances are that a significant portion of your available CPU time will be spent guarding against SPECTRE attacks.
 
Does anyone know if the M1 processor is susceptible to speculative execution (SPECTRE) flaws? If you are running on an intel chip at the moment, chances are that a significant portion of your available CPU time will be spent guarding against SPECTRE attacks.

I believe it is not susceptible to SPECTRE, but there was just a new side-channel attack discovered and it looks like M1 is susceptible.

It’s obviously very difficult to protect against undiscovered side-channel attacks.
 
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Swap occurs on all major current operating systems and all macs regardless if M1 or intel and ram allocation. Some degree of swap will occur. For almost all users a modern SSD will last over a decade before critical wear will be a problem, even a base system. There have been the same handful of examples that have been cited over social media and forums without much other information to see if this a wide spread problem (1%+). If premature is 15 years for £699 then I'm ok with that.

Yeah, I remember the good ‘ole days of the IBM Deskstar GXP HDD’s….affectionately known as the Deathstar. Although it was the best performing HDD of it‘s time, I went through MANY of them due to running them in a RAID0+1 setup. I’d always have at least 1 fail in less than 2yrs from new.
 
I'm more interested to see how Premiere runs on an M1. My daily driver for editing is a 2019 16" MBP. Premiere runs really well, but I'm only shooting HD content, no 4K.
 
M1 Mac mini owner and LG 24", purchased Jan 2021- going from 2014 MBP, 2009 iMac, 2012 iMac.
Light user, home Photoshop. Very light video. Worked at an Apple dealer until 2018 so worked with 21 and 27" 4k units.
Ran Collins Patchers to keep the OS's up to date (stayed at Mojave) to sync with iPhone 11s, 2020 iPads The Patchers have overall impressive performance, only suffering on demanding graphics, and on 12-7 year old hardware. Did well on Apple stock so splurged - wanted the 4k res, but on 24"(Desk space, slightly larger default font-I'm old-). Was willing to wait for an rumoured M1 iMac, but realized 27" probably first, then 21-24" so late in the year, next year, and -I'm old....
So an M1/LG 4K is pretty close to a hypothetical M1 24"iMac, but available now- I'm old- for probably about $200 less
 
Do yourself a big favor and stop using Adobe apps. Their programs are mostly garbage, and there are fantastic other apps out there now. Here's just a few:

- Affinity Designer
- Affinity Photo
- Davinci Resolve

Garbage? So far there's no decent substitute for Lightroom. LR is a superb app that I've been using for almost 15 years and have been please with the updates and features.

Also... as I have around 200K images with non-destructive edits, there's no other editing/DAM app out out there that will honor those edits non-destructively as they're imported.
 
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I'm more interested to see how Premiere runs on an M1. My daily driver for editing is a 2019 16" MBP. Premiere runs really well, but I'm only shooting HD content, no 4K.

Max Tech did an interesting test and one of the final tests looked at an Adobe Premiere export vs Windows when RAM is fully saturated. The M1 completed the export in the same time as when it had plenty of RAM. On Windows and x86, it took twice as long.

 
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I don't find a 50% speedup impressive, given that an M1 Mac runs most tasks at least 2X faster than the intel Mac it replaces.
Unless Adobe is referring to other intel Macs with beefier CPUs.

I would think that not everything is going to run as fast as everything else. Some applications will see higher gains while others won't. For example, maybe one limiting factor is that the graphics processing of the current M1 laptops are not as high as the Intel version that supports discreet graphics. I don't know for sure that is the reason, but there are a lot of factors at play that doesn't make everything a direct corollary.
 
only if u have 8gb of ram. 16GB models are fine. People who do 4k video editing a lot on an 8gb machine should expect swap to occur.
got to blame it on overenthusiastic youtubers who convinced everyone that 8gigs was enough and a week later sold it for a 16gig to make a video on why they should have got a 16 gig one
 
Wait until it’s actually optimized for the M1. For now it’s just a recompile. :rolleyes:
 
Anyone else run into this issue when switching between tools in this garbage program? FFS, the only thing keeping me on Photoshop is a lack of time to train up on anything else. -__-

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Okay. Now let's get After Effects and Media Encoder. Of course, the pile of AE plugins too. This is going to take forever.
 
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if only Adobe would be 50% faster in delivering updates.
I'd prefer it if they completely overhauled their apps and actually optimized them. It feels like all they've ever been doing is adding more bloat to all their apps. Take Illustrator for example; it's very laggy. Compare it to Affinity Designer which basically does the same thing and you'll notice how much smoother everything runs.
 
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Expected to see industry standard Photoshop benchmark results for comparison but nothing. How about a more recent CPU comparison?

https://www.pugetsystems.com/benchmarks/

Update: From extrapolation, if Photoshop performance on M1 is ~50% faster than 2019 Macbook Pro with high end i7-8557U CPU option which is equivalent to i7-8565U on this chart then it's on par with latest Intel Tiger Lake i7-1165G7.

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It is actually tested here:


faster than any mobile chip listed above - and this is just the first round of optimizations for the m1 - photoshop has had decades of tuning for x86
 
It is actually tested here:


faster than any mobile chip listed above - and this is just the first round of optimizations for the m1 - photoshop has had decades of tuning for x86

That's rubbish since it's not like for like comparison. They need to compare laptop vs laptop and not desktop vs laptop. Should've used a MBP M1 vs latest 11th gen Intel Tiger Lake.
 
A 50% jump in speed would not usually occur even over a couple of generations of MacBook pro. For instance the Geekbench scores for the low end 2014 15 inch MacBook pro gets around 3100 and the 16 inch mac book pro is 5380(ish) with 2 more cores. Over a 5 year period it has not doubled. So to get 50% extra for a software update seems great for me.
Hardware change though 😉 the boost is coming from the Neural cores.

Every time we had an architecture change we got a big boost. From 68k to PPC, from PPC to Intel, from Intel to Apple Silicon.
 
Okay. Now let's get After Effects and Media Encoder. Of course, the pile of AE plugins too. This is going to take forever.

Media Encoder is ready but in beta. Should be release with Premiere very soon. AE is still Intel.
 
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