Thank you.
Adobe screwed their users on Lion. They had plenty of time, and accessibility to have an update ready.
IMO, an intentional effort to make Apple look like the Bad Guy again.
Total BS, Adobe.
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Adobe Suggests Disabled Hardware Acceleration for Flash Player in OS X Lion
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Thank you.
Adobe screwed their users on Lion. They had plenty of time, and accessibility to have an update ready.
IMO, an intentional effort to make Apple look like the Bad Guy again.
Total BS, Adobe.
I wouldn't call Adobe "lazy". they make great products, but Flash isn't one of them. They take the same approach to Flash as they do with the CS products and throw in a ton of new "features" that do nothing but bloat the code and force designers to stay within their ecosystem.
New features are great and all but with a video streaming codec obviously less bloat is better and Adobe knows this. They are just trying to combat Apple's, and every other companies' media ecosystems. Its more of a chokehold than legitimate business model.
I don't know if the Flash/Lion mess is from Apple or Adobe, but I seriously doubt Apple locked out flash. And given Adobe's track record, where performance isn't really a priority Im gonna pin this one on them.
Its also funny to see so many people jump to defend Adobe when indeed their Flash codec has sucked for so long (ie: there are now discussions of truly open web/video codec standards and Adobe suddenly cares about their users?)
Thank you Wovel for testing this, it probably won't stop the next 20 pages of comments facts seem to be very tricky on websites.
So HARDWARE supports works on Lion, 2 people tested it on 3 machines. Maybe some combo's don't work or the person implementing the flash player ****ed up.
The second problem was in there _before_ Lion too and can be fixed by going fullscreen and then doing settings. You also need this to access/set the camera and mic (took me 3 hours to find this work around first time).
Wovel could you confirm this work around too and test the difference in CPU usage.
Daniel.
It's interesting reading your blurb, and i'm sure some enjoyed what they believe is valuable advice and reasoning.
Maybe you'd like to have a look at this link from Adobe's own bug report site, and see how many cases were filed, and for how long they have known of these issues.
Adobe Bugs Report
Adobe should be doing everything it can to prove Apple wrong about Flash, but clearly they are not up for the fight, and more and more html5 video is being used. YouTube are now heavily into it's use.
Not sure what you mean, the settings bug came from Adobe's bug tracker i found it there 2 weeks ago when i was implementing hardware support in our flash player. It was a known issue for months. I will look in their bug tracker maybe some of the reports got 'lost' when they moved their bug tracker over a while back.
Daniel.
Thank you.
Adobe screwed their users on Lion. They had plenty of time, and accessibility to have an update ready.
IMO, an intentional effort to make Apple look like the Bad Guy again.
Total BS, Adobe.
Flash not working (dialogs don't work) is going to make *apple* look bad?
This **** has been broken since the first betas of lion i used. makes many flash apps completely unusable (e.g. Cisco Meetingplace, anything that uses webcam/audio)
Funny thing is.
Flash is wonderful on my windows machine.
I know a lot of you follow the leader "steve jobs" and say/do wha the says.
A few years ago I bet the ones yapping loudly against flash are the same ones that glorified flash for how cool it was.
Flash on mac is not only a adobe problem. TRUST ME.
The only reason why apple is against flsh is because they cant tax it.
Flash is wonderful on my windows machine.
I know a lot of you follow the leader "steve jobs" and say/do wha the says.
A few years ago I bet the ones yapping loudly against flash are the same ones that glorified flash for how cool it was.
Flash on mac is not only a adobe problem. TRUST ME.
The only reason why apple is against flsh is because they cant tax it.
In case you missed it, go to fullscreen mode in any flash player and then settings work and you can set the camera.
Daniel.
it is a an Adobe problem... it's their software LOL. And your cynical Tax comment also applies to Adobe. if they truly cared about the quality of their codec they would slim it down. but wait that would mean no more ad revenue from Flash Player
Flash will work but it will use more CPU until this is resolved.
Has anybody confirmed that this issue is not due to the switch from QTKit to AVFoundation?
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/12996389/
I also wonder if XPC services could be a factor. This applies a layer of sandboxing for interprocess communications (IPC) that is not present in SL. Is it possible that processes have to be sandboxed themselves to not be as restricted by XPC?
Adobe CS2.5 doesn't like Lion
and for this reason I'll be stating with Snow Leopard for the forseeable future.
Aus $32 for Lion
Aus $1000+ for CS5
Adobe really don't like Apple, and I suspect the feeling's mutual, and we punters are the ones who either suffer or pay up
it sucks
and for this reason I'll be stating with Snow Leopard for the forseeable future.
Aus $32 for Lion
Aus $1000+ for CS5
Adobe really don't like Apple, and I suspect the feeling's mutual, and we punters are the ones who either suffer or pay up
it sucks
YouTube5 allows you to watch YouTube videos in HTML5.
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/35606/youtube5-safari-extension
Flash may still need to be installed despite not actually being used when watching the videos using HTML5.
and for this reason I'll be stating with Snow Leopard for the forseeable future.
Aus $32 for Lion
Aus $1000+ for CS5
Adobe really don't like Apple, and I suspect the feeling's mutual, and we punters are the ones who either suffer or pay up
it sucks
to be fair I doubt Adobe would intentionally cripple old software. CS2 not working in Lion is because Apple did away with PPC code. Also Adobe doesn't update software that old, nor should they be expected to.
CS3 does work under Lion though, you can find it cheaper than CS5
I use chrome when i go to youtube, which ironically uses more CPU than running flash in safari
Good question, i just implemented the way that the docs told me and that works fine. If Youtube uses a different way than it would explain their use of that site instead of all video playback in flash. So maybe google should fix it
Daniel.
I work with Adobe Suite on my mac and on Lion as you can read around Adobe from CS5 to earlier versions dosen't work (Photoshop, Flash, Flash Builder, Illustrator, Acrobat, Dreamweaver), or applications crash or they even dosen't start.
So I don't know if it's an Adobe problem o Apple problem but I am disappointed of Lion because I can't use it. Mac is not an iPad, people work with his Mac. I think Apple is going to the wrong way this time. Hope something new coming next years, we need it. Go google save us.
So I don't know if it's an Adobe problem o Apple problem but I am disappointed of Lion because I can't use it. Mac is not an iPad, people work with his Mac. I think Apple is going to the wrong way this time. Hope something new coming next years, we need it. Go google save us.
Do you use Flash in Chrome?
There is a YouTube5 extension for Chrome as well.
Good question, i just implemented the way that the docs told me and that works fine. If Youtube uses a different way than it would explain their use of that site instead of all video playback in flash. So maybe google should fix it
Daniel.
Do you mean that YouTube should only use h.264 and no longer support Flash?
Is this aimed at me ? I agree 100% i just pointed out that a correctly implemented flash player seems to work (just not youtube?) and that the settings bug has been known for months if not years.
I am in no way defending adobe but as a programmer look for workarounds and tricks whoever is to blame.
Daniel.
Apple breaks CS2, and you blaim Adobe?
Isn't this totally Apple's fault for breaking APIs that existed in earlier versions?
It is so backwards to blame the application when the OS upgrade breaks it.
They wouldn't need to update it if Apple hadn't broken the APIs.
The developer previews are for:
It's not to allow Apple to break things left and right and force the developers to go back and "fix" applications that have been working fine for 5 or 6 years!
and for this reason I'll be stating with Snow Leopard for the forseeable future.
Aus $32 for Lion
Aus $1000+ for CS5
Adobe really don't like Apple, and I suspect the feeling's mutual, and we punters are the ones who either suffer or pay up
it sucks
Isn't this totally Apple's fault for breaking APIs that existed in earlier versions?
It is so backwards to blame the application when the OS upgrade breaks it.
They wouldn't need to update it if Apple hadn't broken the APIs.
The developer previews are for:
- Apple to figure out what Apple has broken, and fix it (AKA "beta")
- Give developers a chance to enhance applications to exploit new features like Resume
It's not to allow Apple to break things left and right and force the developers to go back and "fix" applications that have been working fine for 5 or 6 years!
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Yes I use Flash in Chrome, with no i extensions running. It used to be better than Safari but something changed, which is probably google's doing.
No i mean that its possible to have Lion working with h.264 inside flash on 10.2,10.3 and 11beta just fine at least on my and Wovel's machine. Maybe google is doing something smarter that is now biting them in the ass ?
If you mean flash as the codec (would be weird, on2, vp6, h.263) then i am confused. Why would they not play H.264 (which they already have for html5 playout) inside the flash player.
Daniel.