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Adobe Warns Customers of Potential Legal Action for Using Older Versions of Creative Cloud Apps
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They may be digging their own grave, but their subscription prices never doubled.
I am close to or as old as you. I had a TRS-80 before my Apple II and a Franklin Apple clone that actually displayed both upper and lower character onscreen instead of inverse video. I am at least 30 years from a millennial. I think this is a pile of Adobe fertilizer.
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In reality the chances of Dolby going after individual users who continue to use an old version of software for which Adobe, the company they licensed it from, has a dispute about license fees, is extremely low. Dolby wants Adobe to account for the number of users they've had and pay a one-time large fee, they don't want to chase 1000s of users across the globe through the court system to pick up $10 apiece.
This feels more like an attempt by Adobe to get as many users as possible off the versions of software which use Dolby's IP to try and limit the 'user count' determined by the court and limit how much they will end up paying. It's also a pre-emptive strike for an argument I'm sure they are going to advance that they require licensees of Adobe software to update to the latest versions and so the continuing infringement isn't their fault. Before any individual becomes liable, a court would have to consider and accept an argument like that and it's not certain a court would accept it.
Yeah that's not how commerce works. They offer a product or service for a charge, and you take it or leave it. They don't "owe" you anything beyond delivery based on the options they chose to give in the first place.
Literally the only reason I use the older version of Premiere is because of the Dolby codecs support. So no, I will not move to the new version that has less features than the previous version. Adobe's lawsuit with Dolby has nothing to do with me. I will continue to use Dolby audio, even if it's without Adobe's permission.
Anything else Adobe wants to do to give Affinity more business?? As a creative professional who uses their stuff to make a living they’re still pissing me off a lot lately. Crummy iPad apps, raising subscription prices and now this.
If anyone wants to take a plunge on the Affinity apps now is a good time.
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If anyone wants to take a plunge on the Affinity apps now is a good time.
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It’s hard to change when 8 years ago adobe was the best choice so people had little incentive to give up really good software. Now there are tons of options out there. Adobe is clearly losing market share and they are panicking.
Adobe’s bloated the hell out of these apps anyway. They start like they’re all drunk on wooden legs, and the CC services are useless for this type of work. Yeah sure, I’m going to upload and download 1.2GB files constantly. That seems practical. 2019 brought no improvements I use, and performs slow and unstable on this older MBP. 2015 is the last release that performed well enough on this to be worth any money at all, and thinking we’re all going to be legally threatened off it and line up to give them more thousands of dollars for worse software, perhaps it’s time to start suing Adobe.
Just yet another company too big for its britches & apparently needs to lose a substantial amount of its user base.
Just yet another company too big for its britches & apparently needs to lose a substantial amount of its user base.
As I had discovered about Adobe years ago, it’s all about the money…!!
I just use CS6 still. No problem. All the supposed replacements for Photoshop aren't as good as anyone says.
I'm one of the few that's okay with the subscription option: I get the latest features and the payments are spread out so that I don't have to pay a lump sum to them whenever they make a new version. But I do understand that this is not something that people like and I fully agree on the downsides with this sort of option (though the subscription model is honestly the only way I can keep using the software without breaking the bank in one go).
My main issue with CC is that the price is wayyyyy too high. And since they don't charge in Canadian dollars, I'm at the mercy of the USD -> CAD exchange. So for me, it's USD$49.99 + tax in USD (my province, Ontario, charges 13% tax), then the total of that is converted to CAD. It's almost $100 a month! I'd be fine if it was CAD$49.99 + tax or even USD$39.99 + tax in USD, but this is what I'm stuck with. I feel even worse for those living in Australia (whose currency is even worse than the Canadian dollar).
I think the problem is that the amount of power that Adobe has is getting way over their heads and the reliance that many companies (including many Fortune 500 companies I would imagine) have with their products makes them think they're untouchable. I do hope that companies like the people who make Pixelmator, Affinity, Sketch, etc. give Adobe enough of a bite in the butt to force them to (at least) decrease the pricing of the subscription in order to remain competitive. Perhaps they can also do what Microsoft does with Office: keep the subscription option, but create a one-time purchase option for the suite and make any internet-related services at a separate price. I would think that this is a good enough compromise: both for consumers and Adobe themselves. I could be wrong about this, so please correct me if I am.
My main issue with CC is that the price is wayyyyy too high. And since they don't charge in Canadian dollars, I'm at the mercy of the USD -> CAD exchange. So for me, it's USD$49.99 + tax in USD (my province, Ontario, charges 13% tax), then the total of that is converted to CAD. It's almost $100 a month! I'd be fine if it was CAD$49.99 + tax or even USD$39.99 + tax in USD, but this is what I'm stuck with. I feel even worse for those living in Australia (whose currency is even worse than the Canadian dollar).
I think the problem is that the amount of power that Adobe has is getting way over their heads and the reliance that many companies (including many Fortune 500 companies I would imagine) have with their products makes them think they're untouchable. I do hope that companies like the people who make Pixelmator, Affinity, Sketch, etc. give Adobe enough of a bite in the butt to force them to (at least) decrease the pricing of the subscription in order to remain competitive. Perhaps they can also do what Microsoft does with Office: keep the subscription option, but create a one-time purchase option for the suite and make any internet-related services at a separate price. I would think that this is a good enough compromise: both for consumers and Adobe themselves. I could be wrong about this, so please correct me if I am.
Here's the thing and I'm sure someone has mentioned this already. If Adobe wants everyone to move forward and use the most current versions then they need to fix the existing bugs that have already been reported in all their software. I'm sitting here using two versions back of InDesign and InCopy because that's the only way I can get work done. Oh and that was their "fix" for me when we reported the problems we were having.
I am not in love with Adobe at all, but honestly, the people who claim move to a competitor app is either an amateur, enthusiast or student.
If you are a professional in the creative industry, it is tough to get away from Adobe. I am a motion designer/ graphic designer in SoCal and NY markets. My industry is stuck with After Effects/Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign. I honestly don't know any pro designer that can get away not using Adobe. Sure there are few but if you have to share files and collaborate with other designers, clients, companies, studios, etc. I don't see how anyone can get away.
BTW, I hate the subscription model. I wished Adobe would have an option to purchase the software, but I don't think they will ever go back.
If you are a professional in the creative industry, it is tough to get away from Adobe. I am a motion designer/ graphic designer in SoCal and NY markets. My industry is stuck with After Effects/Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign. I honestly don't know any pro designer that can get away not using Adobe. Sure there are few but if you have to share files and collaborate with other designers, clients, companies, studios, etc. I don't see how anyone can get away.
BTW, I hate the subscription model. I wished Adobe would have an option to purchase the software, but I don't think they will ever go back.
I use Luma Fusion at the moment, but although it’s good for an iPad app, you may notice its technical limitations, dependent on how complex your editing is. Good thing is that they’re actively developing it so it can only get better.
This is why I still use CS6 and it does everything I need. The CC versions haven't added any killer features. This is all to do with fighting piracy. They plug up vulnerabilities that enable people to crack their applications in new versions and force people to upgrade. There are some people who work on older Macs which run earlier versions really well and struggle to run the latest versions. Inevitably the system requirements increase each time. They don't want to upgrade because what they have does all that they need and run well on their hardware.
The main issues which cause people to hold back on updating are 1) bugs and 2) old hardware that cannot run the increasingly bloated software efficiently.
Who stands to benefit from Adobe insisting that customers update software and, in the process, hamstring their own workflow unless they also update their hardware? How does Adobe benefit from this at all?
This is such an obvious question I'm baffled nobody ITT has asked it yet.
Who stands to benefit from Adobe insisting that customers update software and, in the process, hamstring their own workflow unless they also update their hardware? How does Adobe benefit from this at all?
This is such an obvious question I'm baffled nobody ITT has asked it yet.
Quark is back. Looks good!
Pixelmator Pro has bitmap and vector with layers.
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Apple Motion 5 blows AE away. I’ve been using it since version 1.
Pixelmator Pro has bitmap and vector with layers.
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Apple Motion 5 blows AE away. I’ve been using it since version 1.
A warning that older version are no longer supported is understandable. Legal action??? That sounds like an overly-zealous legal department.
As for the Adobe subscription service topic (which has been beaten to death)… Any designer that wants to actually work needs to subscribe to and use the Creative Cloud. Yes, there are good alternatives, but files need to fit in a workflow… unless you only create things in a bubble.
As for the Adobe subscription service topic (which has been beaten to death)… Any designer that wants to actually work needs to subscribe to and use the Creative Cloud. Yes, there are good alternatives, but files need to fit in a workflow… unless you only create things in a bubble.