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Adobe Warns Customers of Potential Legal Action for Using Older Versions of Creative Cloud Apps

So using the latest CC requires the latest MacOS. There are many reasons you may want to stay several MacOS versions back including other programs that can't be updated and won't work on the latest MacOS. The modern state of computing for consumers is disgusting.

I had a legit copy of CS4, and as soon as I head about this CC nonsense I upgraded to a legit copy of CS6, which is the version I continue to use today. The only downside I've noticed is my version of ACR doesn't support any modern RAW files, so I have to pre-convert everything to adobe DNG.

I've said since day one of the CC announcement that as soon I am forced off CS6 I will be pirating CC, I will never pay a single month's subscription. And I'm someone who's paid for photoshop for 20+ years. Now Adobe is just proving my resolve all the more. If I'm a pirate anyway for paying to subscribe and use the version I want, why in the would would I not go all out and pirate it without paying?
 
Mofo’s round here can’t read worth a damn. The notification only suggests upgrading, and advises the consequences of continuing to use old versions. Article is more PSA than news
 
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I still use CS6 and I won't upgrade past Mojave because of it and a few other 32-bit programs. It's probably the end-of-the-line for me with Adobe once I upgrade. I very sparingly use Dreamweaver and Photoshop (like once a month or so), so a subscription model makes no sense.
 
I'm still using Lightroom 5.7 on my 2013 13" Retina MacBook Pro. No subscription needed. Never had a subscription, never will.
 
Da_Hood said:
Mofo’s round here can’t read worth a damn. The notification only suggests upgrading, and advises the consequences of continuing to use old versions. Article is more PSA than news
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It's pretty astonishing. Clearly some people are doing what another posted said and stopped reading after the word Adobe. Same as the subscription price double, when it hasn't been raised in years.
 
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Looks like it’s affected even Photoshop & Premiere Elements.

I noticed Adobe’s removed public downloads of older versions of Photoshop and Premiere Elements-prior to 2018 such as Photoshop Elements 15 even though Photoshop Elements is not part of Creative Cloud.

The pages that used to host installers:
https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/download-earlier-version-photoshop -elements.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/download-earlier-version-premiere-elements.html

now goes to:
https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install.html

These are still available if you contact Adobe customer support (I got download links for Photoshop Elements 12 for Mac, of course with 12 being 32-bit only only works up to Mojave’s).

As far as I know, I have not received a similar email due to the use of a older version of Photoshop and Premiere Elements) like what Creative Cloud users have received.


Could this also be due to the lawsuit?
 
At first big tears, heart aching, almost desperation. Then Pixelmator Pro, Affinity Designer, Affinity Publisher, Final Cut Pro X, ProCreate. Never looked back. :D
 
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What about pre-creative cloud versions? I still run Photoshop CS6 on my Mac and not in the cloud.
 
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Is there a InDesign alternative?
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arkhanjel said:
Affinity has something in beta at the moment I believe.
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That'd be Affinity Publisher. There was and still is a closed internal beta, and an ongoing public beta. You can download it for free on their website. The current build, 1.7.0.312, is rather stable, though obviously not enough for production work, as the Serif devs always warn us.

It's very feature complete, though the Designer and Photo personas, a key staple of the app, are still only accessible to internal beta testers.

As for the current feature set, it's still missing some important stuff like a multiline composer-level engine and proper LTR support, though I believe that with enough prodding they may put it in the roadmap and seriously invest in it. They were indeed very responsive to people's complaints about the lack of inline object anchoring, for instance, so there's that.

As for Designer, it's also still missing some important tools like vector auto-tracing. Affinity, as a whole, has a lot of catching up to do, but it's impressive just how much they managed to implement in under 7-8 years (they were running internal alphas and betas for quite a while, and they only came up with the first public betas about a year after that infamous Creative Cloud and CS cancellation announcement).

Affinity Photo is the one I use less, but it also seems to be the most feature complete and competitive with Photoshop. If that wasn't already bad enough for Adobe, their upcoming DAM, a spiritual successor of sorts to Aperture, is a bit of an open secret in their forums. Serif stopped short of giving it a name and putting up an official teaser on their website, but the devs openly admit to its development being an move they are seriously considering (hey, they're only Osborning Adobe and their competitors, so no biggie there), if not one they're already undertaking behind the scenes (considering the latest news and the overall success of the suite, I'm more inclined towards the latter).
 
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I bought Lightroom 6 before Adobe took it off the market recently. Glad I did. It is now running on a dedicated photo editing iMac, which means Adobe will never get a penny from me again. LR 6 does everything I want it to do.
 
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Adobe has fallen. They screwed themselves over. Too bad other people have created better wares than Adobe, because now they are becoming more greedy in an attempt to regain the lost profits.
 
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cube said:
Well, the point of getting CC instead of CS6 was that you would always be up to date.
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Wrong, the point of people subscribing to CC is/was, CS6 missing compatibility updates, and no CS7, CS8, CS9, etc releases. Pure marketing strategy to milk dependent users, faster building up their imperium, which they build by buying out and killing the competition. Believe or not, but piracy also helped them to grow. I bet they will try to buy out Affinity and kill it.
 
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gugy said:
I am not in love with Adobe at all, but honestly, the people who claim move to a competitor app is either an amateur, enthusiast or student.
If you are a professional in the creative industry, it is tough to get away from Adobe. I am a motion designer/ graphic designer in SoCal and NY markets. My industry is stuck with After Effects/Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign. I honestly don't know any pro designer that can get away not using Adobe. Sure there are few but if you have to share files and collaborate with other designers, clients, companies, studios, etc. I don't see how anyone can get away.
BTW, I hate the subscription model. I wished Adobe would have an option to purchase the software, but I don't think they will ever go back.
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I think you're seriously overrating Adobe's importance regarding workflows. You absolutely can use standards-based files across the board, and not be dependent upon any given company's tools. I can very well make a .PDF in Illustrator and plop it into Affinity Publisher, the same way I can make a .PDF in Affinity Designer and plop it into InDesign (the fact that the entire Affinity suite supports PDF/X-1a, PDF/X3, and PDF/X-4 helps a lot in that regard), and I can use either Photoshop, Affinity, Pixelmator or even Gimp, for that matter, and use it in any kind of app which will take image files.

But if it's print and video production standards you're looking after, sure, you're a bit limited in the sense that Scribus, Inkscape and Gimp can't offer you support for commercial standards. Still, Affinity, Quark and Corel all support stuff like PANTONE colour palettes, Affinity Photo supports proper 32-bit editing, Radiance HDR, OpenEXR and PSD/PSB support, so… what more do you need, really?

And do you know what? If I have to tell a client/print house to buy a $40 licence for an Affinity app so they can open a… working file (why would they even have to do that? Nay, why should I even allow them to do that?), I absolutely will. If it's a colleague with whom I'm collaborating, even more so (it's not like it isn't an affordable, perpetually-licensed nifty little tool; or they can use the fully-featured beta instead and realize what they were missing out on). If I feel it's good enough for professional production, I will absolutely tell my students to buy it and/or ask whatever place I'm teaching at to buy licences for it. As for this conformist and apologist mentality of yours and many others? I just cant stand it. Why not motivating people to break from the cycle of abuse instead? Why not coach and coax them into industry-wide, quasi-open/ubiquitous standards? Or new, proprietary but cheaper standards, for that matter?
 
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While I'm mildly frustrated with Adobe for for this and although I have no insider info, I know this is Dolby's doing. I ****ing hate Dolby! They destroyed the DVD-ROM industry by trying to triple dip their licensing. Because double-dipping wasn't enough. Bastards.
 
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