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Adobe Warns Customers of Potential Legal Action for Using Older Versions of Creative Cloud Apps
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I appreciate your examples, yet this is, regrettably, not new. TomTom paid apps, for example, were radically transformed, with several features lacking on re-launch. Then just as with Adobe, TomTom pushed all the users towards a monthly subscription model, giving the users who paid the full app price a limited time free subscription. All of this despite their initial promises of app support for life (of the app, I presume, as a dead ex-user would not really care, I suppose. /s). So I guess the soft companies treat it as a new product and just drop the old user base. A user then has a choice to adapt and find a creative solution to the problem (find a workaround or move to another product). It is just a bad general strategy to allow your productivity or wellbeing to depend entirely on one product. When TomTom made navigation harder for me, I had quite a bit of fun trying all of the competitive and free (!) offerings and do not miss that heavy sluggish app a single bit today. To life with all its changes!
I had the email as I'm not running the latest version of Photoshop , I've reverted back to the 2015 one as I found the latest one a disaster in terms of bugs (don't even go there on the scale tool - I could write an essay...) If they get a grip on it I'll upgrade again. I did though have an online conversation with their support and was advised there is no problem running previous software despite the email. It's something to with the previous versions not being officially available in the manager app, apparently - or something like that - it was all bit confused. (They even offered me a link to download a previous (2015) version too). I actually screenshotted the conversation at various points ... Here's a bit of it with names blanked out...
So Adobe is warning third parties might be able to sue you because the older versions don't have a valid license anymore, ok. Not sure what all the hysteria is about, would love to switch from Adobe to something better, especially since they killed the CS6 re-install option. But Da Vinci Resolve doesn't yet deliver on the tools I need, neither does FCPX or Avid, not in the way I want to work. So as long as I need Premiere, CC is not a bad option. The only thing that really really sucks is the gamble you take every time either adobe or apple updates something. The whole 'what did they break this time' roulette gets a bit old.
When I did my last update, for Illustrator, Photoshop, InDesign, Lightroom, and Dreamweaver, it downloaded new versions alongside the ones I was already using, so I have 2 versions of each of those packages; Premier Pro did the same thing for two updates, which makes it that I'm in possession of illegal software. Changing my name to Fugitive and going underground...
I have to use Adobe products as that's what the clients I closely associate with use; even if a couple of times I were to ask them to re-save or reformat files they send me due to whatever incompatibilities may arise with other software, big or small, they'd very quickly get tired of that.
I have to use Adobe products as that's what the clients I closely associate with use; even if a couple of times I were to ask them to re-save or reformat files they send me due to whatever incompatibilities may arise with other software, big or small, they'd very quickly get tired of that.
It’s about what is right and fair for users, not a comparison to a nasty company like Autodesk.
Also, how deep and buried was the legals on this!? Who would ever imagine the licence agreement would be so base.
So is this the evolution of whats known as 'screwing over software users to force them to pay for latest software' by making a software product that uses third party plugins, then when the company wants to make more money and force it's users to purchase it's latest software is to say that the old software is no longer licensed anymore which means any third party plugins also become unlicensed and thus anyone found using the software can be prosecuted
Quark looks good, but really isn't. I have to use it as a couple of my clients supply me with Quark files, and while the typography feature set is excellent the app in general can be very very sluggish, particularly when you have large .eps or .pdfs placed. if you zoom into the page you almost have time to go make a cup of tea while waiting for it to render on screen. It's painful. Adobe InDesign is so much faster. For my own art-working I'll be looking at Affinity's offering as an InDesign replacement, but sadly still have to use Quark for supplied files.
That's true. They did increase prices by 20-30% in many countries outside the US a few months ago, that was a real price increase. This time around they 'tested' making the $9.99 Apps + 20G subscription hard to find to see if they could persuade more people to pick the $20 Apps + 1Tb.
It's fairly clear what they're doing here, the 20Gb of storage was supposed to be a hook to get you into their real business which isn't software any more but cloud storage for your photos. Once you have 1Tb of content in the cloud you're likely to keep renting from them in perpetuity. Perhaps the 20Gb was small enough that many people didn't even bother with it, they wanted the apps, so Adobe started trying to get people onto the higher tier. At 1Tb you're more likely to think "I have 1Tb, let's use it" and when you've used it you're likely to think "gosh darn I have 1Tb of photos up there" and keep paying.
Adobe is now a storage solution company with a suite of apps hung off that storage. And some of those apps, like Lightroom CC, are garbage compared to the 'classic' version.
So indeed Adobe didn't double prices, but they certainly are trying to find any way possible to lock people into as high a tier of their CC storage solution as they can. Don't blame them, their software is mature, but I'm not going to play that game.
Agree - many years ago I standardised on Lightroom for my home photo collection as it was cross platform (Windows / OS X). Good choice given that Apple dropped Aperture a few years later.
Paid for LR3, 4, 5, 6 upgrades.
I don't want a subscription and now that Adobe is playing sillybuggers I'm looking for a LR alternative - anything that will take in my old edits?
Funny how many people in here failed to read the bold part of the main sentence:
I had the email as I'm not running the latest version of Photoshop , I've reverted back to the 2015 one as I found the latest one a disaster in terms of bugs (don't even go there on the scale tool - I could write an essay...) If they get a grip on it I'll upgrade again. I did though have an online conversation with their support and was advised there is no problem running previous software despite the email. It's something to with the previous versions not being officially available in the manager app, apparently - or something like that - it was all bit confused. (They even offered me a link to download a previous (2015) version too). I actually screenshotted the conversation at various points ... Here's a bit of it with names blanked out...
You can revert back to the legacy scale behavior. I did this immediately, because there was no way I was retraining 25 years worth of muscle memory, going back to days of using PageMaker in high school.
https://photoshoptrainingchannel.com/photoshop-proportional-scale-transform/
Damnit - I'm also in trouble if Encore goes away! It's a dark day for quality Bluray Authoring.While I'm fine with the "recent two versions of Adobe software" announcement... I'm gonna be bit in the butt by the loss of Adobe Encore.
Yes I still make DVDs... for dance recitals and stuff. I know it's antiquated... but it sells.
I could download Premiere Pro CS6 which includes Adobe Encore. But that will be going away. And Adobe doesn't have a replacement for DVD authoring.
I'm happy with Adobe software. I use Premiere Pro and Photoshop almost every day... Lightroom Classic often... Illustrator occasionally... and sometimes After Effects. Oh and I love Adobe Fonts. (formally TypeKit)
I get a lot of value from my Adobe subscription. I'm not an anti-subscription person. I use this stuff to make money... so if it costs $56.57 every month to keep using the software I like... so be it. And I've been using it so long that I'm comfortable.
I still have Adobe Encore installed... and I hope it keeps working for the next couple months to get me through dance recital season.
I downloaded a trial version of Vegas DVD Architect... boy is it ugly.
This kind of crap is the exact reason why I think that software only sold as a subscription is the worst thing that's ever happened to software. Not only do you end up paying more in the long run, you're also essentially forced to constantly keep upgrading to the latest version and paying for that when you'd previously been able to keep using whatever you were using until you yourself decided you wanted to upgrade.
Thankfully most of what I use at work and at home is either freeware or open source so I don't have to put up with this, because if I did then I'd probably explode.
Thankfully most of what I use at work and at home is either freeware or open source so I don't have to put up with this, because if I did then I'd probably explode.