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Haha! Apple using its own xserve and osx server at it new datacenter. love to see that day come.

if only Apple cared about is server products as much as the iPad.


Yes, dumb JBOD has a place in a datacenter, just not in an Enterprise DC.
 
Trust me. I worked for them. They are responsible for building the most energy efficient data centers on the planet.

NetApp and Apple are in a great partnership right now, with NetApp hosting the entire iTunes & App store on THEIR servers & storage.


They sell storage my friend. Not data centers. Not HVAC units, not routers, not cable plants...storage.


Its up to the owners of a DC, to build an efficient DC. Netapp is just one of many many pieces of one.
 
Is it really wise to put their entire data system under one roof? Apple's fate is one fire/earthquake/Godzilla-attack away from being eliminated in one take.


This new facility could very well be the backup center for existing facilities. We are getting al excited over "nothing". Apple is not talking.
 
Id expect to be _heavily_ NAS based.
Its cheaper, and far more extensible than SAN...IMHO.
SAN has it's place..just not here, again, IMHO.


I'm so old i had to use the urban dictionary to see what "IMHO" means haha.

yeah but then were talking about apple, the company that doesn't let $$ decided the way its heading.

im my opinion i still think a SAN is way better than a NAS. and Apple has also push SAN over NAS, one would hope that they would use there owe technologies.

i wish Apple would put up a video or even a few photos once its all live. or maybe i should just move to the US and apply for a job.
 
Those *******s have so much money, and they couldn't spring for a green roof?

They have to have a 500,000 square foot heat sink raising the temperature of the earth??

Seriously, over time a green roof would cut down their cooling bill by and insane amount.
 
Doubling it or not, this is going to be big. You don't just blow a billion dollars on something like this for nothing.
 
500,000 square feet ought to be enough for anybody.

Well anybody but the NSA.

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/...nters/largest-data-centers-worthy-contenders/


However, if you look closely at that..... where "anybody" is a single company ... yes. No one company really needs a single location bigger than 500K. Most of these > 500K centers are co-loc centers where there are multiple tenants.


P.S. For the person who said that Microsoft and Google are shivering in their boots because of Apple's center ...... LOL

Top 10 list :

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/special-report-the-worlds-largest-data-centers/

Microsoft has four separate centers in the top 10 list. Google doesn't make the Top 10 list but has those beat on collective size. (more 100K like centers rather than putting all eggs into just a couple of baskets. )
 
Dude, seriously, turn down - or turn off - the volume before posting this to Youtube. Nobody wants to be blasted by propeller noise at 103dB. And the noise does not add anything to the video.
 
Seriously, over time a green roof would cut down their cooling bill by and insane amount.

What? If you have taken a class in Thermodynamics go back and get a refund.

A green roof ain't going to do jack squat. The "heat" is being pumped in via the massive megawatts of electricity that are being pumped into the building. Some freaking grass ( or light reflecting material ) on the roof doesn't do diddly to that. The electricity is converted into heat by the computers/electronics. Also trying to pump that heat out of the building also generates heat ( again the grass on the roof isn't doing anything).

The external heat is not a major contributor to the heat problem. Neither do you need a better insulated roof to keep the heat in. Your 'green' roof might help with that but that is a different problem. You have thousands of space heaters deployed inside the building that run 24/7/365.

Locating the data center to a cooler climate you can use naturally chilled ambient air to cool the center more effective. ( just let the heat blow out. ) Again external heat or insulation is not the issue.
 
Now, where are the all windmills or solar panels that power this monster of an energy sucking brick?

Dear Apple, please geen my datacenter.
 
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Can you imagine how many Xserves that place can hold? Apple has got to be their own best customer.

You're kidding yourself if you think they are running Xserves in there.

Is it really wise to put their entire data system under one roof? Apple's fate is one fire/earthquake/Godzilla-attack away from being eliminated in one take.

No company ever puts all their eggs in one basket. A place like that (whatever it ends up being for) will have multiple locations worldwide. It's fail-capable, not just fail-safe.
 
Those *******s have so much money, and they couldn't spring for a green roof?

They have to have a 500,000 square foot heat sink raising the temperature of the earth??

The makeup of the roof has nothing whatsoever to do with the temperature of the Earth. This is a commonly held and easily exploited myth that is easily disproven by a second-year thermodynamics class, and is also part of an undergraduate meteorology degree.

I agree that a "green" roof may help to unload some thermal costs inside the building, but may also add to the structure complexity and therefore negate any energy savings by the energy costs of construction and materials. I wish it were different, but it isn't.

Kinda like the myth of all-electric plug-in cars...the juice has to come from somewhere, and that distant somewhere (and the inefficiency in electric delivery) generally negate the so-called advertised energy savings for about the first 90,000 to 105,000 miles of the vehicle life.. Now, a fuel cell vehicle might be a different matter, but, again, the inefficiency of creating the materials inside the fuel cell generally negate the overall energy savings compared to an efficient internal combustion engine. We are getting closer, but are not quite there yet.

And, you can trust me on this - I hold advanced degrees in both chemistry and aerospace, and am currently deeply involved (research and financially) in fuel cell development.

Give us 20 years and we may have some great answers for all mankind. Until then, just turn off your lights and set your thermostat 2 degrees higher in summer and 3 degrees lower in winter. And, buy a car that gets 15% better mileage than the one you really want to buy. These will help more than you could ever imagine.
 
Here is a picture from the original announcement of the datacenter:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/catawbacountync/3697995104/

It shows that there was always a phase 2 planned with a second duplicate building on the site.

Are we sure that the completed building is actually 500,000 square feet? I wonder if each building is 250,000 square feet for a total of 500,000 square feet.
 
Is it really wise to put their entire data system under one roof? Apple's fate is one fire/earthquake/Godzilla-attack away from being eliminated in one take.

All they need to do is activate the silent code inside every Mac and Time Machine already in place, and BOOM you have the world's largest offsite distributed RAID backup...a few MB at a time, nothing anyone would notice...
 
The first building is the data center. The second building is the food court for the DC workers. We are talking about the world's largest sushi bar!

RE: Contact. Fantastic movie. Even better book.
 
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It is a parking lot guys!
 
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