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I'm bored of all the bugs and 'it just works' BS.
iOS8 will never be fixed meaning that the 6+ is a write off due to insufficient RAM and a crap o/s. Basically we're all waiting for new hardware and new software. I should have saved myself £700 and stuck with my iPhone 5 for another 12 months. This 6+ does nothing that my old i5 didn't do and it actually reloads tabs & apps more readily. I paid £700 for a bigger screen, better battery and yet worse browsing performance.
I might give Apple one last go with the 6S+, I might not...

Exactly. The iPhone 5s was better with iOS 7.
 
Yeah they are just now starting to get better and now making it where you don't have to root them. And I use Nova launcher on every android device I have as well and it smooths things up quite nicely but TW is still a bummer and I cant really deal with it. Note 4 was a great device don't get me wrong and it was really hard to leave it but I haven't looked back since.

Don't want to stray away from the OP but I don't find myself getting bored at all. Its nothing that another phone has that I don't already have with the 6+. 1GB of RAM has always satisfied my needs so that doesn't bother me one bit. And it may be buggy but (in my personal experience) the only bug I run into is it gets stuck in landscape mode sometimes and that's every blue moon.

You say that 1GB of RAM has always satisfied your needs, but the iPhone 5 with its 32Bit architecture actually acted like it had more RAM than the 6+. I could keep way more browser tabs open and apps didn't reload when I switched to them. I'm tired of doing a search on Ebay or Amazon, leaving to cross-ref something in Safari, and then returning to Ebay/Amazon and finding the app reload. Then I have to type in all the search criteria again and scroll down to wherever I was. This is SO tedious, and my two year old iPhone 5 didn't do it!

Those who use their phones in a very basic one app/one tab and they're done manner will never notice any RAM limitations, but for £700 I expect to be able to browse a couple of tabs & one app and not have them reload when I switch between them. For £700 I also expect the latest iPhone to perform at least as well as one from two generations prior in every respect. Beating it for speed is great, and having a bigger screen is great too, but being worse at basic functionality is a *dealbreaker*.
 
Exactly. The iPhone 5s was better with iOS 7.

Nah. Disagree. It certainly wasn't but I'm happy for you that you feel that way. :)

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You say that 1GB of RAM has always satisfied your needs, but the iPhone 5 with its 32Bit architecture actually acted like it had more RAM than the 6+. I could keep way more browser tabs open and apps didn't reload when I switched to them. I'm tired of doing a search on Ebay or Amazon, leaving to cross-ref something in Safari, and then returning to Ebay/Amazon and finding the app reload. Then I have to type in all the search criteria again and scroll down to wherever I was. This is SO tedious, and my two year old iPhone 5 didn't do it!

Those who use their phones in a very basic one app/one tab and they're done manner will never notice any RAM limitations, but for £700 I expect to be able to browse a couple of tabs & one app and not have them reload when I switch between them. For £700 I also expect the latest iPhone to perform at least as well as one from two generations prior in every respect. Beating it for speed is great, and having a bigger screen is great too, but being worse at basic functionality is a *dealbreaker*.

You keep bringing up the money you spent. But since you feel you spent so much, you should've done your homework first, read about other 6Plus owner's experiences, especially since tab reloading comes up often on the iPhone and iPad forums. It's your own fault for not being a smart shopper. Something new comes out and you just buy it sight unseen.
 
Nah. Disagree. It certainly wasn't but I'm happy for you that you feel that way. :)

We're not talking about battery life, screen size, loudspeaker quality or some iOS8 'features'...merely that basic functionality was better. Web browsing, crashing, screen freezing etc.

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Nah. Disagree. It certainly wasn't but I'm happy for you that you feel that way. :)

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You keep bringing up the money you spent. But since you feel you spent so much, you should've done your homework first, read about other 6Plus owner's experiences, especially since tab reloading comes up often on the iPhone and iPad forums. It's your own fault for not being a smart shopper. Something new comes out and you just buy it sight unseen.

...but you love the phone? How could I mess up if it's so great?
I bought it. I don't like it. I am permitted to voice my displeasure. Was I wrong to expect the same or perhaps better functionality as my old iPhone 5?
 
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I was so excited to get the 6plus, but after a few months with it, I've grown quite tired of it. Not the size, but the lack of things I can do WITH that size.

I've been thinking, and the only reason I have an iPhone is because I have a Macbook and iPad. Certainly not a good reason to keep paying a company for a phone you're not completely happy with.

I'm wondering if anyone has made the switch to Android (unlikely, seeing as the phone has only been out 6 months), or if anyone is similarly underwhelmed and thinking about switching. If you have switched or are considering it, which device are your eyes on?

I don't understand this sentiment. How can you become "bored" with a device you use everyday? What do you expect from such a device?

It's got a very obvious, specific use case - hence why we each purchase one.

If by "bored" you mean you're border of the colors of the app icons/layout, alrighty then. You should never have bought an iPhone in the first place.

I'll never understand these threads....buy a smartphone that does what you need it to do.
 
...but you love the phone? How could I mess up if it's so great?
I bought it. I don't like it. I am permitted to voice my displeasure. Was I wrong to expect the same or perhaps better functionality as my old iPhone 5?

You are very much permitted to voice your displeasure....if you have already did your due diligence by checking out the phone's reviews by real customers and played with the phone extensively. Then if the phone worked as described but after a few software updates it now sucks then your argument makes sense.

People expected Windows 8 to be as good, if not better than Windows 7. After all Windows 8 was the successor to Windows 7. Shouldn't have been better? People expected Vista to be better than XP, but it was downright awful. That's why a smart customer checks things out before forking out cash, especially when it's a high ticket item.
 
You are very much permitted to voice your displeasure....if you have already did your due diligence by checking out the phone's reviews by real customers and played with the phone extensively. Then if the phone worked as described but after a few software updates it now sucks then your argument makes sense.

People expected Windows 8 to be as good, if not better than Windows 7. After all Windows 8 was the successor to Windows 7. Shouldn't have been better? People expected Vista to be better than XP, but it was downright awful. That's why a smart customer checks things out before forking out cash, especially when it's a high ticket item.

I would expect a laptop purchased with 8.1 to run better than an older laptop purchased with Win 7, yes of course. The hardware would be an improvement - a better processor and more RAM as standard. Whatever I thought re the merits of the newer o/s, at least the general performance would be an improvement.

Not so with the 6+. Regardless of any iOS8 pros & cons, a bigger screen and better battery life, the RAM is totally insufficient for heavy browser use. The performance versus a two years older iPhone is worse in this respect. As for software...whatever one might say about Windows 8.1 v 7, regardless of any complaints over UI and dumbing down, at least it isn't a buggy unfinished mess!
 
I would expect a laptop purchased with 8.1 to run better than an older laptop purchased with Win 7, yes of course. The hardware would be an improvement - a better processor and more RAM as standard. Whatever I thought re the merits of the newer o/s, at least the general performance would be an improvement.

Not so with the 6+. Regardless of any iOS8 pros & cons, a bigger screen and better battery life, the RAM is totally insufficient for heavy browser use. The performance versus a two years older iPhone is worse in this respect. As for software...whatever one might say about Windows 8.1 v 7, regardless of any complaints over UI and dumbing down, at least it isn't a buggy unfinished mess!

Nice try starting your reply with Windows "8.1". I'm referring to when Windows 8 succeeded Windows 7 from the beginning. Windows 8.0 was a disaster and not everyone is in love with the tiles so 8.1 doesn't matter. The tiles dumb down the productivity. That's why MS is getting back to Windows 7-style functionality because they thought people would like their NEWEST OS.

Okay so let's tackle your argument about iPhone 6 Plus. You suggest it's a "Buggy Unfinished Mess"? Hmm, but you've mentioned nothing about it that was buggy just as a few others here that are trying to trash the iPhone 6 Plus.

Yes, the ram should've been 2GB as they put in the iPad Air 2. Won't argue that.

Heavy web surfing? What heavy web surfing do you do on a 5.5" screen? I don't even do heavy surfing on my iPad Air and I use daily for work. I do heavy surfing on my iMac because it can handle and display everything that the iOS devices cannot do. iOS Safari cannot display everything that Mac OS X Safari can do so I can't see what "heavy web surfing" you can do on a phone. :rolleyes:

I have yet to see a physical comparison side by side with iPhone 5S and 6 Plus in regards to tab reloading. I had the 5S I couldn't tell the difference.

But back to what I originally said because I'm seeing the same pattern from you as some others here. You refuse to accept responsibility and recognize that you were not being a smart shopper. I never fork out a great deal of cash for anything without fully checking it out and that includes reviews from real owners. But please, by all means, continue to voice your displeasure because in your mind it's all Apple's fault that you bought one of their products without doing your homework and none of yours.
 
I would expect a laptop purchased with 8.1 to run better than an older laptop purchased with Win 7, yes of course. The hardware would be an improvement - a better processor and more RAM as standard. Whatever I thought re the merits of the newer o/s, at least the general performance would be an improvement.

Not so with the 6+. Regardless of any iOS8 pros & cons, a bigger screen and better battery life, the RAM is totally insufficient for heavy browser use. The performance versus a two years older iPhone is worse in this respect. As for software...whatever one might say about Windows 8.1 v 7, regardless of any complaints over UI and dumbing down, at least it isn't a buggy unfinished mess!

I just want to point out, for all the readers of this forum who may be basing decisions on things you read here - this is an over dramatized opinion of the iPhone 6+'s performance.

While sunking is of course entitled to his opinions, and his gripes with his device are valid, the idea that the 6+ is worse than the 5 is absolutely a joke generally speaking.

Personally, I use TouchID and Apple Pay everyday so there are two big features that are missing in the 5. The 6+ camera is better, the display is larger and developers have enhanced their apps to take advantage (still a work in progress, but many of the bigger devs have done so in both portrait and landscape). Battery life is great, the display quality is great and it has everything that makes an iPhone awesome (great services, iMessage, FaceTime, AirDrop, PhotoStreams etc).

It's not perfect, more RAM is always welcome though I don't have nearly the trouble with reloading tabs Sunking seems to have. I look forward to the 6S+ improving on this design and iOS 9 stabilizing the OS (which has become pretty stable in mind on 8.1.3.

All-in-all, if you are an iOS/Apple fan and/or have liked iPhones in the past, the 6+ is undoubtedly an upgrade from the 5. Like any device there are pros and cons that must be weighed against each individual's own value proposition and use case.

Do your homework and get whatever device fits your needs. The 6+ fits mine perfectly. Best smartphone I've owned. And I look forward to the 6S+ (which I will definitely get being on the AT&T Next 12 plan).
 
I just want to point out, for all the readers of this forum who may be basing decisions on things you read here - this is an over dramatized opinion of the iPhone 6+'s performance.

While sunking is of course entitled to his opinions, and his gripes with his device are valid, the idea that the 6+ is worse than the 5 is absolutely a joke generally speaking.

Personally, I use TouchID and Apple Pay everyday so there are two big features that are missing in the 5. The 6+ camera is better, the display is larger and developers have enhanced their apps to take advantage (still a work in progress, but many of the bigger devs have done so in both portrait and landscape). Battery life is great, the display quality is great and it has everything that makes an iPhone awesome (great services, iMessage, FaceTime, AirDrop, PhotoStreams etc).

It's not perfect, more RAM is always welcome though I don't have nearly the trouble with reloading tabs Sunking seems to have. I look forward to the 6S+ improving on this design and iOS 9 stabilizing the OS (which has become pretty stable in mind on 8.1.3.

All-in-all, if you are an iOS/Apple fan and/or have liked iPhones in the past, the 6+ is undoubtedly an upgrade from the 5. Like any device there are pros and cons that must be weighed against each individual's own value proposition and use case.

Do your homework and get whatever device fits your needs. The 6+ fits mine perfectly. Best smartphone I've owned. And I look forward to the 6S+ (which I will definitely get being on the AT&T Next 12 plan).

I never said that the iPhone 5 is better than the iPhone 6+ (although it actually is for my needs), I merely said that it reloads tabs & apps much less readily, doesn't crash apps for fun, and doesn't suffer from screen freezing. It's obvious that the 6+ has a bigger screen, better battery life, an improved loudspeaker and it's faster here & there. I also appreciate that people will only run into the RAM limitations if they use their phone for certain tasks and in a certain way. My friend has a 6+ and he absolutely loathes the tab reloading. He came from an iPhone 5 and preferred that phone! A few people on these forums notice the RAM limitations every day too. We may be an isolated bunch who use our phones in a manner that others don't, but please don't excuse the fact that an iPhone 5 running iOS6 or iOS7 performs better and in a far less buggy manner than an iPhone 6+ in certain respects. Whether those 'certain respects' aren't a dealbreaker for *you* is not evidence of there being no problem.
 
I never said that the iPhone 5 is better than the iPhone 6+ (although it actually is for my needs), I merely said that it reloads tabs & apps much less readily, doesn't crash apps for fun, and doesn't suffer from screen freezing. It's obvious that the 6+ has a bigger screen, better battery life, an improved loudspeaker and it's faster here & there. I also appreciate that people will only run into the RAM limitations if they use their phone for certain tasks and in a certain way. My friend has a 6+ and he absolutely loathes the tab reloading. He came from an iPhone 5 and preferred that phone! A few people on these forums notice the RAM limitations every day too. We may be an isolated bunch who use our phones in a manner that others don't, but please don't excuse the fact that an iPhone 5 running iOS6 or iOS7 performs better and in a far less buggy manner than an iPhone 6+ in certain respects. Whether those 'certain respects' aren't a dealbreaker for *you* is not evidence of there being no problem.

Which is why I made the point to say your gripes are valid. I merely offered an opinion/use case example for the other side.

Balance. We aren't the only ones reading this and there might be people who read all negative posts and don't get a clear picture of the pros and cons because someone has a specific use case in which the iPhone doesn't work.

I just try to provide the other side, that's all. In the end, each user should do their homework. At this point, both OSes have been out for quite some time and the general workings of each are easily researched.
 
I never said that the iPhone 5 is better than the iPhone 6+ (although it actually is for my needs), I merely said that it reloads tabs & apps much less readily, doesn't crash apps for fun, and doesn't suffer from screen freezing. It's obvious that the 6+ has a bigger screen, better battery life, an improved loudspeaker and it's faster here & there. I also appreciate that people will only run into the RAM limitations if they use their phone for certain tasks and in a certain way. My friend has a 6+ and he absolutely loathes the tab reloading. He came from an iPhone 5 and preferred that phone! A few people on these forums notice the RAM limitations every day too. We may be an isolated bunch who use our phones in a manner that others don't, but please don't excuse the fact that an iPhone 5 running iOS6 or iOS7 performs better and in a far less buggy manner than an iPhone 6+ in certain respects. Whether those 'certain respects' aren't a dealbreaker for *you* is not evidence of there being no problem.

Those are your experiences and it's your opinion. Like I said, my 5S didn't seem to have any better Safari experience than my 6 Plus. Not once has my 6 Plus's screen ever froze and I have yet to have an app crash unlike my 4S and 5S did often with iOS 7.

Like the other poster mentioned, you're over-exaggerating and over-dramatizing and like I said earlier you should take responsibility for not researching the 6 Plus before buying it. After all, you're the one that is complaining about all the money you spent on it. :rolleyes:
 
Those are your experiences and it's your opinion. Like I said, my 5S didn't seem to have any better Safari experience than my 6 Plus. Not once has my 6 Plus's screen ever froze and I have yet to have an app crash unlike my 4S and 5S did often with iOS 7.

Like the other poster mentioned, you're over-exaggerating and over-dramatizing and like I said earlier you should take responsibility for not researching the 6 Plus before buying it. After all, you're the one that is complaining about all the money you spent on it. :rolleyes:

I'm talking about the 32Bit iPhone 5, and not the 64Bit iPhone 5S which was also under spec'd with RAM.
I'm amazed that your screen has never frozen. Mine does it all the time, and despite several clean installs of iOS8. The genius even told me that his 6+ screen frequently freezes, as does my friend's. Perhaps we use ours more heavily than you do, or maybe we all have faulty hardware and you don't. Who knows.
 
Being the OP and all, I should be replying more often. Now there's 2+ pages of comments since I last checked this thread, and I really don't want to go back and quote everyone or find out who said what.

But I will say this: To those of you that said people who get bored with a phone don't have a life, or that it's "just" a phone, you do realize that you're commenting on a message board revolving around a product that you're minimizing? That makes sense.

Anyway, perhaps I used the wrong terminology. It's not boring - of course the phone is only as entertaining as you make it via downloading apps. What I'm saying is that Apple gave us increased real estate with the 6+ without any new functionality. Sure pictures and videos look nicer, but we can barely use any apps in a two-pane viewing experience. It isn't a phablet, it is an oversized iPhone. Maybe some are okay with that, but for all of the money I paid for it, I would like to do more than I could do with a regular 6.

I'm also growing bored of the lack of customization allowed by Apple, which I know won't change. But it's a personal preference.

Lastly, as others have pointed out, the OS on the 6+ isn't the stable, reliable software that Apple is known for. It's buggy. Apps crash all the time. My phone freezes out sometimes. I feel like I'm having an Android experience on an iPhone without the added benefits that come from actually having an Android handset. And it's even more frustrating because I've only had the phone for less than 4 months.

I know I'm on an Apple board, but I started this message to see everyone's sentiments, especially those that have switched or are thinking about switching. I've gotten some good feedback, so thanks to those who provided something useful. I guess I'll wait and see what Samsung has in store in a couple of weeks.

edit: Oh and lastly, thanks to those that suggested a jailbreak. Unfortunately, I'm running 8.1.3 :(
 
I get bored with any phone after a certain amount of time. Grass isn't greener trust me. I've had many android phones and always end up back with an iPhone.
 
I'm talking about the 32Bit iPhone 5, and not the 64Bit iPhone 5S which was also under spec'd with RAM.
I'm amazed that your screen has never frozen. Mine does it all the time, and despite several clean installs of iOS8. The genius even told me that his 6+ screen frequently freezes, as does my friend's. Perhaps we use ours more heavily than you do, or maybe we all have faulty hardware and you don't. Who knows.

Well, I'm not calling you a liar but since you can't verify what the genius said about his iPhone 6 Plus screen freezing, nor can you verify your friend's 6Plus screen issues I can't accept that as fact. My best friend and I both bought 6 Pluses and neither of us have suffered from any screen crashes and we talk about this phone often. Now, he's a basic user but I use my 6 Plus, iPad Air and iMac for work. I run two businesses so these are all business tools that get quite a bit of use. I'm a power user without a doubt and my 6 Plus's screen has never froze. The iPad Air's screen has never froze.
 
Yeah, I'm not surprised you do. ;)

I found it very apt.
I don't understand why you defend the iPhone 6+ against all attacks. I own one, I've had nothing but iPhones for the past five years, and I generally prefer them to the competition. It's getting harder and harder for me to say that though. The 6+ is a poor phone. Sure it has some great positives but overall I just don't like it. It doesn't do anything amazingly well, and it does some things - important daily tasks - very badly indeed.
 
I found it very apt.
I don't understand why you defend the iPhone 6+ against all attacks. I own one, I've had nothing but iPhones for the past five years, and I generally prefer them to the competition. It's getting harder and harder for me to say that though. The 6+ is a poor phone. Sure it has some great positives but overall I just don't like it. It doesn't do anything amazingly well, and it does some things - important daily tasks - very badly indeed.

On the part that I highlighted, so you realize how silly that sounds? So in your own words, "Am I not permitted to voice my displeasure?". Many of the posts including yours, the OP's and a few others are nothing but bashing posts of the 6 Plus. So, I guess you want people like me to shut up and don't say anything about my positive experiences and allow this to only be a FUD spreading thread party?
If it's so hard for you to say anything positive anymore about Apple's phones then you most certainly had a choice to choose a Note 4 or an HTC before you went with Apple's new phone.

And BTW, I'm not sitting here defending the iPhone. I agreed with you about the lack of ram, but you all you want to do is bash the product and complain about the money you spent and you refuse to accept ANY responsibility that it was your own fault (and the OP's) for not doing your homework first and checking out the bad and good about the 6 Plus. You decided to dive in with your hands covering your eyes. You got what you deserved.
 
On the part that I highlighted, so you realize how silly that sounds? So in your own words, "Am I not permitted to voice my displeasure?". Many of the posts including yours, the OP's and a few others are nothing but bashing posts of the 6 Plus. So, I guess you want people like me to shut up and don't say anything about my positive experiences and allow this to only be a FUD spreading thread party?
If it's so hard for you to say anything positive anymore about Apple's phones then you most certainly had a choice to choose a Note 4 or an HTC before you went with Apple's new phone.

And BTW, I'm not sitting here defending the iPhone. I agreed with you about the lack of ram, but you all you want to do is bash the product and complain about the money you spent and you refuse to accept ANY responsibility that it was your own fault (and the OP's) for not doing your homework first and checking out the bad and good about the 6 Plus. You decided to dive in with your hands covering your eyes. You got what you deserved.

We deserved a better product! The 6+ should perform at least as well in every single respect as the two generations older iPhone 5. Heck, it should actually slay it in most respects but my 'be at least as good as' request was pretty reasonable, no? I don't feel like I was asking too much to have an iPhone 5 with a bigger screen (as a bare minimum). Really though we should have received across the board improvements and genuine phablet features. You're right that we could have researched the last part (and I did so can't grumble) but it's so hard to research the tab reloading issue as so many people claim not to be affected. Regardless, the 6+ shouldn't reload more readily than the i5 and even without any research I should have been able to guarantee that.
 
We deserved a better product! The 6+ should perform at least as well in every single respect as the two generations older iPhone 5. Heck, it should actually slay it in most respects but my 'be at least as good as' request was pretty reasonable, no? I don't feel like I was asking too much to have an iPhone 5 with a bigger screen (as a bare minimum). Really though we should have received across the board improvements and genuine phablet features. You're right that we could have researched the last part (and I did so can't grumble) but it's so hard to research the tab reloading issue as so many people claim not to be affected. Regardless, the 6+ shouldn't reload more readily than the i5 and even without any research I should have been able to guarantee that.

Ah, finally a post of yours which I can wholeheartedly agree with. Of course we deserve a better product.....at least in terms of being better than the previous versions.
In terms of this "phablet" stuff, Apple never claimed the 6 Plus was a phablet, although according to it's size and form factor that's a name the public has given phones of this design.

As far as the Tab reloading it's perhaps the easiest thing to research. It's said enough on this very forum as well as CNET's iPhone/iPad postings over the past couple of years. It's also very easy to verify this by going to an Apple store, Best Buy or any retailer that sells Apple's products. Load up a few tabs and check for yourself. I did exactly that before I bought my iPad Air so I knew what to expect. I wasn't happy about it but it satisfies my business life much more than just needing a few tabs open so I didn't care, but once again I knew what to expect because I researched it.

It's very frustrating to see threads like this. Nothing but FUD spreading. It's already silly enough that the OP starts a thread about being bored with his phone. :rolleyes: . He never once stated in his OP anything about bugs until you a few others thought they would add fuel to the fire with constant bashing of the 6 Plus issues. Now the OP suddenly posts about bugs? Hmm.

Okay, well please continue with the FUD spreading. Far be it for me to help any new comers with my positive experiences. This thread was intended to do nothing but make new comers think the 6 Plus is nothing but a piece of trash.
 
I stopped reading when you said "It's JUST a phone". I never said it's JUST a phone. Put on your reading glasses and go back and re-read my post because it's plenty obvious you didn't. Just a knee-jerk reaction without reading the whole thing. I said it IS a phone after all and people tend to forget that and the rest of my post went on to say how powerful and feature rich the iPhone 6 Plus is which you did nothing but recite exactly what I already said. :rolleyes:

Wow, just realized I quoted the wrong post, meant to quote the post above mine of the guy who did say that. Sorry, can't be posting at 2:30 Am like I did lol.
 
I wouldn't jailbreak again. Ios 8 is unstable as it is, jailbreaking has always gotten me in to a world of bugs and rebooting/respring. I don't even think there is any jailbreak for iOS 8 and it's NOT a solution for people who are bored with IOS. Look at alternatives to iphone. Start using Google services that can be used with both your apple products and for example an android phone.

I'm very happy I replaced my iPhone 5 with a Note 3 one year ago. I haven't had any reason to regret it. iPhone is a really good phone lineup, but boring and I'm more than happy to get rid of that iCloud and iTunes mess. I do still use a Macbook and an iPad though and it is working well for me cross platform.

Hey, this is the same setup that I'm seriously considering (albeit a Note 4, or Samsung S6 if they remove the majority of TouchWiz). Do you miss being in Apple's "walled garden"? Do you miss receiving texts on all devices, or the Continuity that you get with having multiple Apple devices?

Also, do you use apps like Pushbullet? If so, how well does it work?
 
Wow, just realized I quoted the wrong post, meant to quote the post above mine of the guy who did say that. Sorry, can't be posting at 2:30 Am like I did lol.

All good. I noticed that afterwards as well and should've updated my post asking you if you meant to quote a different post. :)
 
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