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They could still be called "watches" because — when they do the things you listed — they'll be watching out for us.

You'll get no argument from me that this current iteration is a bit of a dog - but you're also missing the point.

This device is more connected with your body and the Internet more than any other device in the past. Think what it could mean:

- A device that can sense if you're falling asleep and therefore tell a car you're driving to pull over
- A device that can let the world know if you're having an emergency health issue - stroke, heart attack, epileptic seizure, spontaneous combustion, etc...
- A device that hopefully will help turn us from a bunch of zombies staring into our phones and help us interact with Internet a bit more ambiently. (I say this because on my last train ride everyone was looking down at their phones and oblivious to the world around them...)

This current version of the watch, as a package, is the best set of ambient sensors and actuators we've seen to date... and it fits on your wrist... and it's not terrible. Think of what the next version(s) will look like. I myself am not convinced we'll be calling these things watches in the not too distant future.
 
Ive been an apple fan boy for all my life. I remember buying my first Mac and thinking "this is the coolest thing ever." I have bought almost all of Apple's devices from the apple TV to the iMac. I upgrade my iPad every year and my phone as well. I actually was the first in line to get my iPhone at my local apple store. (waited 3 days in line) Anyways, my point is, I believe in apple, i love their products and was ecstatic when I pre ordered my watch. I got it on Launch Day and thought "wow, i don't even need my phone anymore" but i soon realized that it only does so much. My apple watch sits on my desk most of the time now and rarely use it. I love the apple pay feature and fitness app but thats about it... It seems like a hassle. My phone is easier to use. I'm still keeping it and hope it grows on me but i doubt it. Not here for hate, just sharing my opinion. Hope you all enjoy your device.

Btw i bought the SS Classic Buckle 42mm.:apple:

My experience was very similar. However in my case I was determined not to keep it beyond the return period. That would benefit Apple.

Currently I'm having mixed feelings about the company due to their rather poor updates and the overall state of iOS 8, an incredibly and unnecessarily incongruous example of Apples capabilities. When Apple applies themselves they're excellent, when they cruise, we lose.
 
I'm on the verge of returning my watch...not because I expected it to do more than it does, but because for me, it creates as many problems as it solves. The short screen timeout is about on my last nerve. I find the fitness app to be gimmicky and inaccurate. Notifications are hit or miss. Most of all, after thinking that I could learn to see past the rectangular blocky look of the watch, I can't. It's just not a style that I like...I prefer round watches.

I realize this is a 1st generation product, and there are bound to be issues...but I can't help but feel that right now these are not quite ready for primetime.

I'm happy for those that are enjoying their purchase...it's just not for me.

BTW, since 2007 I have bought 3 Mac Pros, 2 Macbook Pros, 2 iMacs, 4 iPads, and and 6 iPhones...so I'm right there with OP on the fanboy thing. ;)
 
Keep in mind, it's a watch that does extra things

THIS! It is a watch, not a laptop on your wrist.

I don't think the price is all that bad (unless you're talking about an edition) I paid 500 for my Citizen and it was on sale and usually runs about 750 which is what I paid for my watch, it tells time great, looks great and even better it gives you a lot more than a standard mechanical watch!
 
I'm curious as to how Apple is going to morph this.

And how far off the mark they are with the OS. IMHO, they are off the mark, but if they examine feedback and change it accordingly, the whole thing could/will move forward.

If, on the other hand, they develop the dreaded: "We at Apple, in our infinite wisdom, know what's best for you, so shut the **** up. Have a nice day :)", attitude.

But this is unlikely (i've never seen this sort of thing with them).

(I mean, at least make it so you have a 'Nano on your wrist mode'.)
 
I've had mine for about 3 weeks and I definitely haven't been able to think of a must-have feature yet. I'm still happy with my purchase though. I've always had a bunch of cheap watches that I rotate through with different outfits, but now I can just wear one nice watch with different bands and also get the added convenience of a smart watch. I think it's best to look at it like that, as jewelry with notifications and a heart rate monitor.
 
I hate to say but they will not last overtime....I own one as well SS 42 but currently use less and less. I wear it because tech junkie. Other than that dont see the point. Apple pay is a big reason for me, but just as easy to pull out phone. In fact phone often faster.

Most people here are going to rational away there use. However mark my words not too many years left for the watch. Look at the Samsung watch---Adds galore with TV promo spots. How many seen in the wild?? Not many-

I have seen one other person with an Apple watch on since launch. The numbers and amount of users just are not going to be there. The only way Apple will keep this around for the masses if more independent from the phone. Unfortunately not going to happen anytime soon....So mark this thread and call me right in years to come
 
I believe you will come to view this as having made a rod for your own back ;)

Only time will tell, but the zest is already dying down...Even Apple fan boys I know who own the watch are leery. Whats even better is my wife is in the industry. She works for a marketing company that tracks items such as this and everything having to do with computers. Even they have there doubts. Again I reference the Samsung watch---Apple has a large fan base so lets up it does better
 
You can't blame Apple for giving people what the asked for. People kept saying they wanted a watch. Apple made one.

The only problem is, it's the wrong watch.

The watch people want is a watch phone, music machine, computer on your wrist.

So what does Apple do? they try to work around this by making it 'a phone extension'

I own a sport but haven't been using it. I'll wait until the first major update. It's beta now as far as i'm concerned
 
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... People kept saying they wanted a watch. Apple made one.

The only problem is, it's the wrong watch.

The watch people want is a watch phone, music machine, computer on your wrist.

So what does Apple do? they try to work around this by making it 'a phone extension' ...

So what do you think battery life, processor specs, memory specs and COST would be like on a smartwatch that DIDN'T outsource most of the processing to the iPhone? :eek:
 
The watch people want is a watch phone, music machine, computer on your wrist.

And if current technology allowed such a device to be truly practical and it checked every box on everyone's wishlist, people would still carry around a second larger screen for many tasks. An iPad won't fit in your pocket, so how about a second screen the size of an iPhone 6?
 
There is nothing more convenient than glancing at your wrist for simple information. That wipes out about 50 percent of the iphone interaction.
As the developers get more focused on powerful glancing features it will be a great way to be connected without being oblivious to the world constantly glued to your iPhone. I see nothing but upside to this re-invention of what a watch can do. There is one thing they have yet to crack and that would be an encrypted State I.D. License chip that could be uploaded to the watch or phone for use at deployed NFC terminals at all of the ID required transaction networks. That should be the last step to killing the wallet for good. I am all for it.
 
Sure they will sell these, lots of them. But it's an accessory item.

This would have been normal if they hadn't made all those versions, and made it seem like it was the 'next best thing'

It was this absolutely hugely hyped rollout, way of of proportion. A misstep.
 
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I think that the software just has to mature. I can't help but think about the iPhone 1 when I use my Watch. The hardware has potential and the Watch can only get better over time :) What the watch can do depends upon the developers (and what people want it to do)..
 
I think that the software just has to mature. I can't help but think about the iPhone 1 when I use my Watch. The hardware has potential and the Watch can only get better over time :) What the watch can do depends upon the developers (and what people want it to do)..

Yes, and that's why i'm keeping mine.

It should be fun :)

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You obviously lost me. ;)

I edited that mess. Too late :D

(could you please erase it...thanks :D )
 
My wife's and my opinion: Apple watch is NOT ready for prime time. One week with Sport version, returned it, then one week with Stainless & Milanese and returned it. Net conclusion: Apple watch version 1 is a beautiful, fun, interesting TOY that fills no serious need and is of little practical use, at least to us. We'll very likely buy and keep Version 2. We're all Apple -- 2 MacBook Pros, a 5 and a 6 plus phone, 2 ipad Airs.
 
Yes, and that's why i'm keeping mine.

It should be fun :)

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I edited that mess. Too late :D

(could you please erase it...thanks :D )

I remember back then when I had my iPhone 1, the only way to install apps was to jailbreak the phone. Then Apple released the Appstore, there wasn't a lot of apps but fast forward now we have millions of apps :D Same goes for iOS features.. I used to jailbreak my iPhone 1 - 4 in order to get missing features such as Fast Text reply but now all those features that were missing are part of iOS and I have stopped jailbreaking my iPhones. Apple is just being cautious, adding features step by step..By the way, WWDC is just in a few days.. :cool::apple:
 
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Ive been an apple fan boy for all my life. I remember buying my first Mac and thinking "this is the coolest thing ever." I have bought almost all of Apple's devices from the apple TV to the iMac. I upgrade my iPad every year and my phone as well. I actually was the first in line to get my iPhone at my local apple store. (waited 3 days in line) Anyways, my point is, I believe in apple, i love their products and was ecstatic when I pre ordered my watch. I got it on Launch Day and thought "wow, i don't even need my phone anymore" but i soon realized that it only does so much. My apple watch sits on my desk most of the time now and rarely use it. I love the apple pay feature and fitness app but thats about it... It seems like a hassle. My phone is easier to use. I'm still keeping it and hope it grows on me but i doubt it. Not here for hate, just sharing my opinion. Hope you all enjoy your device.

Btw i bought the SS Classic Buckle 42mm.:apple:

First and foremost, you bought a WATCH. A smart watch is simply a watch that offers notifications and maybe also acts as a fitness band.


The Apple watch really does nothing the android smart watches can't do, it's just made for iOS and has its own unique design and way of presenting data
 
"We at Apple, in our infinite wisdom, know what's best for you, so shut the **** up. Have a nice day :)"

Wow! Deja Vu! Did you work at BlackBerry too? :)

It's definitely not for everyone. Hell, I may decide it's not for me (whenever mine finally shows up). People need to keep that in mind, as well as that it's a first rev product. Many people seem to have short memories of what those are like (or maybe they've never had the exposure and this is a shock to them).

As one who's done a lot of internal beta (and alpha *shudder*) testing at a former employ, I can tell you 1.0 should almost always scare most people away. (not that long ago in the industry, anything with .0 was looked at in disdain, most waiting for a .1 release) :) People typically have very little patience for bugs and things not being as polished as what we've come to expect of the iOS devices.

A friend of mine gave his up after a week. He's not an early adopter. No patience for things not working perfectly. Not entirely surprised (though told him he had more time, should have at least used most of his 14 days before throwing in the towel). :)

Watch OS is a baby. It's got a lot of growing up to do. I'm hopeful Apple has a grander scheme afoot, that will also include other natural interfaces in time.
 
Wow! Deja Vu! Did you work at BlackBerry too? :)

It's definitely not for everyone. Hell, I may decide it's not for me (whenever mine finally shows up). People need to keep that in mind, as well as that it's a first rev product. Many people seem to have short memories of what those are like (or maybe they've never had the exposure and this is a shock to them).

As one who's done a lot of internal beta (and alpha *shudder*) testing at a former employ, I can tell you 1.0 should almost always scare most people away. (not that long ago in the industry, anything with .0 was looked at in disdain, most waiting for a .1 release) :) People typically have very little patience for bugs and things not being as polished as what we've come to expect of the iOS devices.

A friend of mine gave his up after a week. He's not an early adopter. No patience for things not working perfectly. Not entirely surprised (though told him he had more time, should have at least used most of his 14 days before throwing in the towel). :)

Watch OS is a baby. It's got a lot of growing up to do. I'm hopeful Apple has a grander scheme afoot, that will also include other natural interfaces in time.

Exactly haha. As an early adopter, it is part of the fun to observe the evolution of the device from the beginning, that is with its original flaws ;)
 
My experience was very similar. However in my case I was determined not to keep it beyond the return period. That would benefit Apple.

Currently I'm having mixed feelings about the company due to their rather poor updates and the overall state of iOS 8, an incredibly and unnecessarily incongruous example of Apples capabilities. When Apple applies themselves they're excellent, when they cruise, we lose.

I could not agree more. Way too many people fans think of themselves as part of Apple, not from the typical consumer point of view.

You see them all attack like mindless zombies anytime there is something posted about a competitor. They rush to pay a huge premium to a company who has a profit margin that dwarfs anything else in the CE industry. They mock what competitors do...then change their tune when Apple does it. (e.g.bigger phones, smaller tablets, etc.....)

But to me it's about pushing Apple to excel again. Like you said, an applied Apple does incredible things. The iPhone redefined the smartphone market. And when they started feeling genuine competition, they rolled out the iPhone 4 (arguably their best consumer release) that was a Bob Beamon like leap in functionality. Even though the iPad wasn't particularly innovative - they saw an opportunity and created an huge product line.

For the last few years they've seemed lazy and uninspired. Their products often seem like a compromise - with cut corners and little innovation. (the new iMacs, Mini's, MacBook, iOS8 etc.)

The biggest hardware 'hit' of the last few years was simply providing a bigger iPhone...something the competition had done for years. Apple Pay was a decent software innovation, but it's hamstrung by very slow adoption of NSF payments in the US.

This was their first big new hardware release. A chance to wow us. A chance to make us want what we didn't even know we want. (Which had always been what separated Apple from other companies.) Instead it was a very awkward release and precious little buzz beyond the early adopters....which given Apple's huge customer base has to be disappointing.

As a customer I want those products that make me happy to spend a premium for them...not half baked compromises.
 
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