Because bigger is better.
Perhaps it’s because the Chinese market prefer bigger phones.
Perhaps it’s because the Chinese market prefer bigger phones.
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iPhone XR After owning an XR for 4 months, I don’t understand why Apple made the phone so big
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I’m small, and have pretty small hands. I have had zero issues with the size/weight of the XR, and I use it, one-handed with it proped on my pinky, a LOT.
XR is definitely one of my favorite iPhones ever.
XR is definitely one of my favorite iPhones ever.
There really aren’t many options because the only reason I upgraded was to get the dual physical sim. I travel a lot and needed two physical SIM cards. I picked up my XR in Hong Kong which sells the Chinese version which has two physical sims.
My only other option was to get the XS Max was is much more expensive and even bigger.
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No I didn’t. The XR was the only option for me. I upgraded because I needed dual physical sims and the XR and XD max were the only options.
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No it didn’t take me 4 months to notice. It just annoyed me long enough to want to complain on the internet.
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XS does not support dual physical sims.
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I do acknowledge the battery life. It’s wonderful.
Still, I would trade for a smaller battery life and smaller screen for a thinner lighter XR.
To me, the bigger screen really doesn’t add much and I wouldn’t trade weight and depth for a bigger screen.
[doublepost=1551631989][/doublepost]With that said, I hope Apple makes a smaller budget phone next.
I think the trade offs they made weren’t right for me.
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I used T-Mobile’s 128kbs international free roaming. Trust me, doesn’t matter how much you dislike a phone, it’s still better than having 2g internet.
Your post is 100% factually accurate. The 6.1 XR was designed for China, it’s that simple. Apple needed a phone that would compete in the Chinese segment, and that’s what this phone was really intended for their economy. Almost all of all the other smart phone manufacturers are offering 6 inch smart phones, and Apple needed a competitor to play a role in China’s market, the XR was it.
my goodness it feels as though youre responding to OP just to create an argument for arguments sake.
he bought the device and now after using it for some time hes realizing the size is too big. hes free to do that.. this is an apple discussion forum. if you dont want to discuss that, then just move along...
arguing that he shouldve known better by trying the phone before buying it...implying that he shouldnt buy it then if it was too big for him, is not just irrelevant and pointless, it is also supremely annoying.
iPhones should be made for the human hand. the XR is the only iphone in apple's 2019 line up that is priced at a similar price point to previous phones that apple used to release, including the 6s (and the 8). and yet it's too big to appeal to a lot of people, and after using it a while a lot of people find its not as comfortable in size as the 8 (which had a lot of the tech that the Xr has now). Apple may have got it wrong.
That is neither rocket science nor brain surgery level of a concept. Very surprising you would debate that in the angle you did.
I have no idea why you’re posting things that are entirely in accurate and patently false., I never inferred or suggested that OP should not have purchased the XR, and nowhere in my post that you quoted did I say that the OP shouldn’t buy it, or in any of my previous posts in this threads. Also, you’re intentionally adding words by saying a ‘irrelevant and pointless’, those are other words I never even mentioned/used in any of my post(s). You’re borderline trying to regurgitate an argument that never even occurred over things that you’re saying never happened to begin with by twisting this discussion, and I won’t engage with you any furtherin a discussion being You’re blatantly being dishonest.
That said, I stand by exactly what I said and how I said it with the OP, if the OP wants to complain about the size of the phone, that’s their prerogative, however I find their argument is baseless reference the XR, because they claimed how the technology doesn’t necessarily add/contribute to the fact of the weight/size, those two things are not mutually exclusive from the first page of this thread that I questioned.
Thanks for the discussion.
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So me arguing that the XR is unnecessarily big for me, too uncomfortable for me to hold is baseless...
Also, you somehow missed the fact that technology more often than not, shrinks the hardware, not increase it.
Virtually every iPhone has decreased in thickness *despite* holding far more and better technology. Your claim is simply baseless.
You don't have to look further than the XS and XS Max being more technologically advanced while still maintaining an acceptable thickness.
The XR stepped several generations backward in ergonomics. In my opinion, it's the worst ergonomic phone Apple has ever made.
Actually you’re wrong. iPhones have been getting gradually thicker since iPhone 6.
I said virtually - so I'm not wrong. Each physical generation (iPhone 2G to iPhone 4 to iPhone 5 to iPhone 6) of the iPhone decreased in thickness with the exception of the X which increased in thickness. However, even though the X increased in thickness, it was a small increase and most people didn't care.
The XR increased in thickness by nearly 14% from the body of iPhone 8. That, to me, is simply an idiotic design choice.
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Nope. I didn’t miss anything. The technology in the XR is just as reduced as it is in the previous iPhone that you were using before you upgraded, The counter point, is the battery thicker in the XR, as others have already mentioned it to you. But being that size and weight is subjective for everyone’s comfortability, that’s just your stance on it, and that’s perfectly fine, but my view opposes yours, but my hand size obviously is different from yours for comfortability.
Finally. And there it is....that’s all that matters, it’s your __opinion__, it’s not factual evidence for everybody else’s situation that they think the XR is too heavy for them, or too thick, that’s your prerogative what you believe, but that doesn’t it mean applies everybody else’s. Case in point.
Nope. You did miss it. You clearly stated that technology increases hardware size. If you did not intend your statement, you should perhaps write clearer.
I've been saying it's my opinion since my OP. Please read.
I did. And you’re contradicting yourself again based on this post from you when you did say it was fact . (First page by the way, just a few replies down, Please refer to the first page.)
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Ah.. that's what you're referring to.I did. And you’re contradicting yourself again based on the post from you. (First page by the way, just a few replies down, Please refer to the first page.)
I forgot to reply to your post, my bad.
Size is not subjective. It's a fact.
Here, I'll prove it:
iPhone 6S weight: 143g
iPhone 6S thickness: 6.9mm
iPhone XR weight: 194g
iPhone XR thickness: 8.3mm (thicker by 20%)
You don't seem to know what a fact is.
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I encourage you to use an iPhone XR to see the difference for yourself, if you don't currently own one.
When I first held the iPhone XR I immediately commented on its thickness — it’s a fairly thick phone by Apple standards, and the thickest iOS device the company currently produces. At 8.3 mm, it feels noticeable thicker than the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, which are both 7.7 mm thick. If you’re coming from the iPhone 7 or 8, which are only 7.1 mm and 7.3 mm thick respectively, the difference is even more noticeable.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/31/iphone-xr-10-worst-features-video/
With what wants to jamb inside an iPhone nowadays, the smaller chassis of the older phones is a roadblock. Also the XR was never meant to be a perfect iPhone. It has trade offs everywhere.
Funny that for years everyone griped about iPhones getting thinner & thinner and that the battery life sucked. Now with a thicker (and heavier) XR because of the bigger battery- people are complaining it's too thick & heavy (but overlook the fact that it's battery life is the best ever).
Funny that for years everyone griped about iPhones getting thinner & thinner and that the battery life sucked. Now with a thicker (and heavier) XR because of the bigger battery- people are complaining it's too thick & heavy (but overlook the fact that it's battery life is the best ever).
Really, we all get it. You don’t need to start copying and pasting iPhone stats from Apple‘s webpage to prove to us that you think the XR is too thick and heavy for you compared to others models, when you’ve stated that multiple times, that’s perfectly fine you feel that way. Honestly, If I was unhappy as you are with this phone, I would consider other options, because the XR/Apple clearly seems to be upsetting you that this phone is too ‘thick’ and that ‘Apple is taking a step backwards’, it’s not ‘ergonomic’, ‘maintaining an acceptable thickness’, ect, ect, I mean, if I was that upset, you’re letting technology really frustrate you beyond what I would allow personally.
To me, I think some of your complaints are completely frivolous, I think Apple really developed a stellar phone with the XR, and has very few reported problems, the battery life is outstanding, for the price point and what it’s offering, consumers generally probably are not clamoring about the thickness and weight, especially considering that the XR seems to be very well recepted. Again, perhaps find another phone if applicable so you can stop complaining about it and find something that makes you happy.
It's nearly 8% thicker than the X. I definitely feel it.
I also came from the 6S, which the XR is 20% thicker.
I'm part of the 37% who think the XR is too thick: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-the-iphone-xr-too-thick.2151824/
Not everyone thinks so, but 37% is still a significant number.
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I get it. You disagree with my opinions (and sometimes facts). You can just drop it and go find something that makes you happy.
I, however, think the XR is a poorly designed phone after using it for the last 4 months.
Wait....37% of _one_ thread on a tech forum is considered a ‘significant number’? Compared to what? I would hardly call that a significant number, when the majority of consumers have no idea what MacRumors even is or even visit this site to discuss things like this.
Oh look, I didn't even notice that you were already in that thread telling people who used the XR that they were wrong in thinking that the XR is too thick: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-the-iphone-xr-too-thick.2151824/page-4
Boy, you should really find something that would make you happy instead of arguing on the internet for months that other people's opinions are wrong.
That’s false in what you posted, in that thread, I never specifically told anyone they were wrong, but I can disagree with them or have discourse regarding their opinion of why I think the XR is not as thick as others are making it sound. That’s Called difference of opinion, just like you have yours about the XR being thick, others disagree with you.
Just curious, were you going to answer the question above that I asked, or just ignore it, what is 37% compared to the majority who don’t frequent a tech site complaining about the XR? Do you have any empirical data showing otherwise consumers complaining about the thickness of the XR other than one thread?
Sorry, why again do you absolutely HAVE to limit yourself to phones that have two sim slots?
You can just swap sims like the rest of humanity if the phone that does offer 2 sim slots is not to your liking. Sure, it might not be as convenient as having two sim slots, but it seems like the tradeoffs for phones with two sim slots (too big/heavy, crappy internet) are problems that will exist 100% of the time you use the 2 sim slot phone, while swapping a sim is a momentary inconvenience on a phone you actually like to use the other 99% of the time. Honestly, seems like you've just manufactured a problem that doesn't need to exist.
You can just swap sims like the rest of humanity if the phone that does offer 2 sim slots is not to your liking. Sure, it might not be as convenient as having two sim slots, but it seems like the tradeoffs for phones with two sim slots (too big/heavy, crappy internet) are problems that will exist 100% of the time you use the 2 sim slot phone, while swapping a sim is a momentary inconvenience on a phone you actually like to use the other 99% of the time. Honestly, seems like you've just manufactured a problem that doesn't need to exist.