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After the dust settled, what is the consensus about 2016 MBPs?
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You can't win the **** measuring contest, without at least 32GB of RAM. Just sayin' hahaha
Exactly
Sorry, but I work in Hollywood. If you use anything but a MacBook, you might as well be driving a old Kia. I can afford any computer I want and have plenty of experience with Dell and Microsoft laptops...enough to know that I'll always have a better experience with the Mac.
32GB makes zero difference for what most pro's do. And those who need that much RAM and more usually don't need it in a MacBook.
Overall Apple continues to make the finest Laptops in the world. And I could list changes that would benefit FAR more people than a generally useless RAM upgrade.
I was a Mac "hater" for many years. I learned.
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Me too. Hated Mac and was sure they wouldn't make it into the 2000's. Then Dell kinda turned to crap for awhile and I couldn't find any PC I liked any better, so I turned to Mac and haven't looked back.
The comment above was just a joke, you see it with cameras and other stuff too. Folks insisting that they have to have the highest spec of everything. Numbers sell.
LOL...I bought a car that goes 204 MPH. I enjoy telling people that it's faster than some exotic supercars.
Times I drove it at over 200 MPH = Zero.
Maybe it does 199. People rarely explore the potential of a device, but they're quick to complain if the potential isn't engineered in before hand.
Cheers,
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Hey, let's find a Volvo forum or something and troll them, because they don't make a car that does 200mph. Good times! Hahaha
Great idea!
But the point is fairly obvious, though not to the folks worrying about how many refurbs are for sale.
My friends Porsche 911 is slower off the line than my Hellcat. It has a slower top speed. It's slower in the 1/4 mile. So my Hellcat must be a better sports car, right? Nope, not even close. That's because the overall driving experience of the Porsche is superior for a variety of reasons. It's a more rounded and refined performance car.
Now we both love playing with the Hellcat because it's a crazy car and we appreciate it for what it does well (and better) but I prefer the Porsche if I'm driving alone on a back road.
My MacBooks are just like the Porsche. There are computers that are quicker or do certain things better, but the OVERALL experience of the new MacBooks is the best EVER and nothing on the market is as well realized.
32GB does not a good computer make! Nor do legacy ports. You have to look at the entire user experience and step back.
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Exposed? Whatever do you think you are talking about? You don't know me and I also don't disclose my reasoning for requiring 32GB in a system. This being a laptop. Your anecdotal reference is irrelevant to the matter at discussion. It is sort of amusing that you can't come to terms with my lack of disclosure. Maybe that doesn't make you feel important enough or whatever, or you're struggling to understand requirements people have that Apple can't meet.
Anyway, you're irrelevant to me from this point forward.
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Simply highlighting the fact that 32GB is what professionals are demanding but Apple went thinner with the 2016 MBP. It is a horrendous mistake which a lot on here seem to struggle to grasp or come to terms with.
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Well, duh! Of course he's gonna reject the assertion he made the statement as it makes hime sound plain silly. Lesser people than he think you shouldn't have 32GB in a laptop either.
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I congratulate you on the ability to *share* what you might want 32gb for. Others have not been able to do so, and that is what we were talking about.
Sometimes information can't be disclosed. Are you another one who struggles with such a concept?
Has nothing to do with being thinner. (64 GB would definitely make it bigger, though. Do you need that too?) And it's hardly a horrendous mistake. The point being made here is that very few need 32 GB. You haven't shown otherwise.
Hear that everyone? Professionals are DEMANDING extra RAM that their software isn't even designed to use.
The #1 laptop used in photo, film and pretty much the entire media industry is no longer "professional." Rats! My friend runs one of the top post production houses on the East coast and she is using the new MacBooks. I'll call her and tell her to buy Dell. No, wait...I'll demand it!
I think "exposed" is a fair term at this point. Can't "disclose" your special needs that require 32GB?
007, is that you undercover?
Oh boy!
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Certainly I have not seen any evidence that the majority of professionals have "demanded" 32GB. I know I certainly haven't, nor do I know anyone who has and they are all professionals in their various vocations.
He won't. He can't. In the last two months only a few people have, but according to him the whole world is "demanding" it.
I guess everyone here isn't a demanding enough professional...except for him.
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Possibly, but the military saw to it that I had a TS clearance for 15 years, so I imagine I saw more secret information than you happen to currently. But hey, attack all you want. I'll be here laughing.
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I had TS clearance in the military as well. Not sure what that has to do with a quip about the real reason a lot of folks seem to think they need 32 GB
Can't disclose need for 32GB of RAM???
That is truly one of the funniest things we've seen posted here.
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I absolutely agree. Not sure what 007 up there is doing with 32gb of ram on a laptop. Must be some seriously secret squirrel sh$*
I don't have 32GB, never said I needed it, don't have any need for it. All I did was make a quip about why some folks feel the need to
Not sure why you quoted me with the TS military stuff. Not sure what TS military clearance has to do with **** measuring contests either
I don't have 32GB, never said I needed it, don't have any need for it. All I did was make a quip about why some folks feel the need to
Not sure why you quoted me with the TS military stuff. Not sure what TS military clearance has to do with **** measuring contests either
I wasn't referring to you or any of your posts, which is why you didn't understand why I brought it up.
I quoted a post that had you in it, and thought I removed that part. I missed it, my bad.
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I wasn't referring to you or any of your posts, which is why you didn't understand why I brought it up.
I quoted a post that had you in it, and thought I removed that part. I missed it, my bad.
Gotcha! I was wondering why I was somehow being lumped in with Dogslobber in the "I demand 32GB" club
In this scene, top secret agent Tom Cruise DEMANDS an extra 16 GB so he can run highly confidential and memory intensive spy work that we can't disclose.
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Gotcha! I was wondering why I was somehow being lumped in with Dogslobber in the "I demand 32GB" club
Yeah, the quoting of a double post got me. Must have been my paltry 16gb of ram that did it.
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And if Tom needs it....
That is nothing compared to the average sysadmin though
Yet we can still disclose why we need certain specs (some ways of doing things or software used are so common that they can't even be flagged as secret information). Mostly because standards the military and businesses use (i.e. ISO 27001) are very strict concerning data (such as not being allowed to even be stored on a notebook on disk or in memory!).What makes the claim regarding secret information even more funny is the fact that the military uses ordinary software for that information. Things like Windows Server, Microsoft Office and so on. Well, except for Russia and China; they have their own Linux distribution.
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Lotta secrecy in this thread...
But seriously, I would like more than 16 GB of RAM. 24 would be loved. The current limit by no means makes the MBP a bad computer (I'm quite happy with it overall). More than 16 would just better address my needs when running multiple OS' simultaneously.
But seriously, I would like more than 16 GB of RAM. 24 would be loved. The current limit by no means makes the MBP a bad computer (I'm quite happy with it overall). More than 16 would just better address my needs when running multiple OS' simultaneously.
As was I, and I imagine many people on here are the same.
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That doesn't change the fact that there are professionals out there who likely need 32gb of ram, and the current top-of-the-line MBP does not offer that. Nor does it offer any future upgradeability should a solution arise in the future.
Does it matter to everybody? Of course not, I for one get by fantastically with my 16gb. But for those who have demands beyond that there should be an option.
If one needs 32GB RAM for professional reasons, more than likely they require a desktop-class CPU and GPU (time/money). Sure, you can work with the mobile CPU/GPU, but the same can be said for working within the 16GB RAM limitations.
Much of the "need" for 32GB RAM is driven by spec envy. The same people complain that an application is using memory (remember, non utilized RAM is wasted RAM).
But it's not my business to decide whether someone wants to overpay for 32GB for soldered RAM. Keep that economy rolling!
To the OP: I have the new 15" pro. Works great, as I expect from any Mac.
Much of the "need" for 32GB RAM is driven by spec envy. The same people complain that an application is using memory (remember, non utilized RAM is wasted RAM).
But it's not my business to decide whether someone wants to overpay for 32GB for soldered RAM. Keep that economy rolling!
To the OP: I have the new 15" pro. Works great, as I expect from any Mac.