After training volume buttons, remote won't change volume

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  1. knemonic macrumors 6502a

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    Anyone had luck with training the remote to control volume through the IR? I learned a new device for volume control but when I do to use it, doesn't change a thing. Using a Phillips receiver here. When I train it it is receiving the IR signal from the receivers original remote so I'm baffled.
     
  2. NavySEAL6 macrumors 6502a

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    Same issue here with a Samsung Soundbar
     
  3. tlaw81 macrumors member

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    Same here as well with a Samsung Soundbar... says it's learned, but doesn't actually do anything afterward.
     
  4. protobiont macrumors 6502a

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    That's what you get for using Samsung products...

    Just kidding, but it works fine with my Onkyo receiver.
     
  5. knemonic thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Is your receiver hooked up through hdmi? It's possible that the Apple TV is controlling it through hdmi, something to do with cec, not through ir. I wonder if anyone has been able to control their receiver not through hdmi.
     
  6. protobiont macrumors 6502a

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    It is, but it doesn't have CEC, and it didn't control the volume until I trained it using the original receiver remote.
     
  7. BulkHedd macrumors 6502

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    I'm having the same problem. My receiver (Pioneer VSX 821-K) supposedly has CEC but that doesn't work.
    When I put the ATV to sleep it DOES turn off the receiver but volume does nothing.

    So I used my receiver remote to train the IR. The ATV remote will only adjust the volume if I click the button repeatedly. And only then sporadically.
     
  8. NavySEAL6 macrumors 6502a

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    I just hope the first update is soon because this ATV is pretty buggy
     
  9. swindmill macrumors 6502a

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    My remote controls both of my Denon receivers volume with no issues at all after selecting 'control receiver volume with IR' in settings.
     
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    I set the remote on my ATV 4 to "control receiver volume over IR" and somehow the remote automatically configured to work with my Yamaha receiver without any training. Pretty clever, actually.
     
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    After trying to set up the Siri remote to control the volume of my Pioneer VSX-521-K via IR it also does not work. I don't want to control it via CEC.
     
  13. d21mike macrumors 68040

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    My Samsung Sound Bar connected via HDMI (return something) supports CEC. My TV is VIZIO 4K 70" so pretty new. But when I control the Sound Bar via the TV Remote it does not work well until I power off the sound bar and back on. BUT, with the new SIRI Remote it auto detected the Sound Bar and works perfect. Now if I can just get everything on the ATV 4 and drop my CABLE DVR I will be golden.
     
  14. BulkHedd macrumors 6502

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    I wonder what's going on? Can you try pushing the volume up/down buttons repeatedly and see if it works sometimes? The IR signal should either be there or not. I don't get it.
     
  15. Cvohara macrumors newbie

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    The Apple TV acts like it is learning the commands from my receiver remote. However, after saving the setting, the volume buttons on the Siri remote simply don't control the receiver volume.

    Pretty stupid that at launch the $79 Siri remote cannot learn IR and a 5 dollar remote from the cable company can.
     
  16. Cvohara macrumors newbie

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    You are right it does respond but VERY poorly. I will troubleshoot some more and let you know of any success.
     
  17. Cvohara macrumors newbie

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    By very poorly I mean once in 20 presses there will be an indication that the receiver is receiving a volume command, however it just shows the volume level for a second and MAYBE adjusts it by one level
     
  18. NavySEAL6 macrumors 6502a

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    I can't get a response on the volume at all. This is very botched. My xbox one controls volume easily.
     
  19. Cvohara macrumors newbie

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    I turned on HDMI Control on the Pioneer receiver. This changed the "Control TVs and Receivers" line item on the "Remotes and Devices" settings screen from greyed out to ON. I changed volume control to Auto instead of IR.

    Turning the Apple TV off using the Siri remote also turned off the receiver. Worked also with turning both devices back on. Volume control apparently still doesn't work even using CEC.
     
  20. hcole623 macrumors regular

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    Same with a Samsung sound bar


    CEC works great with my Samsung tv though
     
  21. BulkHedd macrumors 6502

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    Yeah. That's pretty much my experience. Since the on/off works you would assume the volume should as well.
     
  22. knemonic thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Power turns my lg tv on and off which is prob done through cec. I use my lg tv as my volume output to my receiver using optical, and whatever hdmi input I choose on the tv, the tv outputs the sound from that hdmi to the receiver through optical. I think there is only one hdmi connection on my receiver, which is an output to the tv for DVDs, but maybe I'll tinker and see if there is other options. But I doubt my receiver is cec, cause it's a nice sound system but only $200, you can get decent sound for cheap these days.

    The question I think here is is it a Siri remote issue or an atv issue. A thought I had is maybe a lot of Siri remotes have faulty IR sensors. Or maybe the atv says its learned the commands but isn't sending them to the remote, software issue. I notice when I hit the volume buttons, the led on the atv blinks but that could simply be the remote over Bluetooth making it blink, not like it's receiving actual ir commands from the remote to the atv sensor.

    What's so odd to me is on every previous atv, it could learn any remote and would work flawlessly. I'm close to saying this could be one of apples biggest debut flops, among the other issues with no remote app, the severe limitations with Siri, no Bluetooth keyboard support and beta App Store.
     
  23. T-Will macrumors 6502a

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    Same issue here with the same Pioneer receiver (VSX-821-K). I manually trained the Apple TV using the receiver remote. If I repeatedly press the volume up/down button on the Apple remote, it does eventually change the volume on the receiver one notch. Hopefully Apple can fix the issue with a software update.
     
  24. timmahh macrumors newbie

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    No issues here; HK AVR and volume works fine (via IR; no HDMI CEC support).
     
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