fat jez
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Actually, I was more interested in what others thought, I think it's probably about as good a screen as anyone will find 🙂 I was expecting to get a flurry of people looking to find fault and urging me to change it.
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iPad Air screen defect?
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Actually, I was more interested in what others thought, I think it's probably about as good a screen as anyone will find 🙂 I was expecting to get a flurry of people looking to find fault and urging me to change it.
mcdj
macrumors G3
The people who are buying and returning/exchanging multiple iPads all have one thing in common. They want a freaking iPad Air. Getting an acceptable one, for some, is a labor of love.
They don't want to skip this generation, as so many have suggested. They will not accept "maybe the iPad isn't for you" as so many have suggested. They don't want a Nexus, or a Galaxy, or a Honhai SuperTablet 9000, as so many have suggested. Maybe they depend on the iPad for their livelihood. Maybe they have $1000 invested in apps and accessories. Maybe they just want a freaking iPad Air.
Regardless of why they want or need an iPad Air, they want one with a clean, evenly lit and colored screen, like the ones Apple advertises that they manufacture and sell. It should be noted that Apple does not advertise 1/2 yellow iPads.
If a 1/2 yellow screen doesn't bother you, or more likely, if you can't see it, GREAT! You are blessed! The people who keep getting iPad after iPad with 1/2 tinted screens are cursed....either by bad luck, or by a heightened awareness of color.
People with a heightened awareness of color are no different than people with acute hearing, sense of taste, etc. One man's over salted steak, tossed in the trash, is someone else's perfectly cooked Costanza dumpster feast. To some, a 1/2 yellow screen is like scratching a chalkboard with fingernails growing from their eyeballs. To others, it's the most perfect display ever made.
As I type this on my 4th Air, I have just paused, because I was distracted by the fact that as I type, as the sentences get longer, the background I am typing on shifts from yellow to blue. Just like the last 3 Airs I had. And so, like the 3 before it, this one will be returned.
Will I get another one? Maybe. Will I return it? I hope not. This is not fun for anyone. But like others, I really want an Air. It's a great device, if you can find one with that one teensy tiny feature that happens to be 99% of the selling point...a beautiful screen.
Of course, telling someone you think they should return their Air because YOU think it looks defective is dumb. But telling someone they should keep one THEY think looks defective is no less dumb, and arguably more obnoxious.
Who do people think they are to tell anyone else what to do with a $600 device that doesn't meet their standards, and doesn't do what Apple demonstrates that it does, in their demos, print ads, and commercials...which is to reproduce imagery of all kinds on a clean, evenly colored, and evenly lit screen?
Who is anyone to say that seeking out a product that does what it says on the tin is abusing the company making it? If this problem isn't widespread, as people insist it's not, then we are talking about an extremely low percentage of people making multiple returns. Apple factored those people into the equation long ago.
Given that the same screen issues come up year after year, in device after device, Apple clearly doesn't think it warrants much serious attention. The return rate is likely very low. It's FAR cheaper to keep giving the sticklers new iPads than it is to retool/retrain an entire network of factories to make sure the screens aren't half yellow, especially when most people can't even see it.
They don't want to skip this generation, as so many have suggested. They will not accept "maybe the iPad isn't for you" as so many have suggested. They don't want a Nexus, or a Galaxy, or a Honhai SuperTablet 9000, as so many have suggested. Maybe they depend on the iPad for their livelihood. Maybe they have $1000 invested in apps and accessories. Maybe they just want a freaking iPad Air.
Regardless of why they want or need an iPad Air, they want one with a clean, evenly lit and colored screen, like the ones Apple advertises that they manufacture and sell. It should be noted that Apple does not advertise 1/2 yellow iPads.
If a 1/2 yellow screen doesn't bother you, or more likely, if you can't see it, GREAT! You are blessed! The people who keep getting iPad after iPad with 1/2 tinted screens are cursed....either by bad luck, or by a heightened awareness of color.
People with a heightened awareness of color are no different than people with acute hearing, sense of taste, etc. One man's over salted steak, tossed in the trash, is someone else's perfectly cooked Costanza dumpster feast. To some, a 1/2 yellow screen is like scratching a chalkboard with fingernails growing from their eyeballs. To others, it's the most perfect display ever made.
As I type this on my 4th Air, I have just paused, because I was distracted by the fact that as I type, as the sentences get longer, the background I am typing on shifts from yellow to blue. Just like the last 3 Airs I had. And so, like the 3 before it, this one will be returned.
Will I get another one? Maybe. Will I return it? I hope not. This is not fun for anyone. But like others, I really want an Air. It's a great device, if you can find one with that one teensy tiny feature that happens to be 99% of the selling point...a beautiful screen.
Of course, telling someone you think they should return their Air because YOU think it looks defective is dumb. But telling someone they should keep one THEY think looks defective is no less dumb, and arguably more obnoxious.
Who do people think they are to tell anyone else what to do with a $600 device that doesn't meet their standards, and doesn't do what Apple demonstrates that it does, in their demos, print ads, and commercials...which is to reproduce imagery of all kinds on a clean, evenly colored, and evenly lit screen?
Who is anyone to say that seeking out a product that does what it says on the tin is abusing the company making it? If this problem isn't widespread, as people insist it's not, then we are talking about an extremely low percentage of people making multiple returns. Apple factored those people into the equation long ago.
Given that the same screen issues come up year after year, in device after device, Apple clearly doesn't think it warrants much serious attention. The return rate is likely very low. It's FAR cheaper to keep giving the sticklers new iPads than it is to retool/retrain an entire network of factories to make sure the screens aren't half yellow, especially when most people can't even see it.
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If you're asking us well yea good chance is it's fine. I mean even a $5,000 plus TV set take a pic crank up the saturation you aren't going to see one uniform color across the display.
MrGimper
macrumors G3
MrGimper
macrumors G3
There are clearly issues with screen quality. I'm on my 4th Air, and still have an issue.
However, I've baked my screen for 14+ hours (100 brightness, pure white screen, no auto lock etc) and my current Air is now much better than it was. No, I haven't got used to the screen, it's improved.
I also don't think some of the "tests" being performed are valid, i seriously think iOS 7 is playing tricks on us. For example, settings screen in portrait mode. Whites in the list on the left look different to whites in the section on the right. However if I flip my iPad 180, it looks the same with whites less white in the list on the left. I'd have expected the murky whites to swap over.
Put white icons in the corners of the display (one on far left and far right of dock, one in each corner of the top row of icons on the home screen). Now rotate your iPad thru 90 degrees and look at the icons. I can't see a difference in the whites. If I rotate my iPad 3 more times, I still can't see a difference in the white on the icons.
If I open up the keyboard, I can see the left looks different to the right. If I then go back to home screen and do the rotation test again, everything looks uniform.
However, I've baked my screen for 14+ hours (100 brightness, pure white screen, no auto lock etc) and my current Air is now much better than it was. No, I haven't got used to the screen, it's improved.
I also don't think some of the "tests" being performed are valid, i seriously think iOS 7 is playing tricks on us. For example, settings screen in portrait mode. Whites in the list on the left look different to whites in the section on the right. However if I flip my iPad 180, it looks the same with whites less white in the list on the left. I'd have expected the murky whites to swap over.
Put white icons in the corners of the display (one on far left and far right of dock, one in each corner of the top row of icons on the home screen). Now rotate your iPad thru 90 degrees and look at the icons. I can't see a difference in the whites. If I rotate my iPad 3 more times, I still can't see a difference in the white on the icons.
If I open up the keyboard, I can see the left looks different to the right. If I then go back to home screen and do the rotation test again, everything looks uniform.
You can't compare a TV and an iPad. Do you read books on your TV? Do you read on the web on your TV? Do you write emails and read your emails on your TV? No you don't.
The annoying spine book and yellowing from left to right makes all these actions very uncomfortable. And, unacceptable.
Why people who are happy with their Airs kept on posting here is just beyond me.
The annoying spine book and yellowing from left to right makes all these actions very uncomfortable. And, unacceptable.
Why people who are happy with their Airs kept on posting here is just beyond me.
smoking monkey
macrumors 68020
And you can rationalize Apple's behaviour all you want. Still doesn't make the yellow screen go away!
Apple keeps giving some of us yellow tinted iPad airs. And he's not allowed to level the playing field?
Apple: Here's your iPad air.
Customer: But it's got a yellow tint, quite bad as well.
Apple: SLAP! That's enough outta you!
Under normal circumstances I'd agree and say that abusing the system isn't right. I don't believe these are normal circumstances. Not everything in life is black or white. Personally, I wouldn't do it, but I understand why somebody would.
And, MCDJ, well said.
Just got my 3rd Air, and again, dark shadow alongside the left part of the screen when holding in portrait. wtf is going on? I'm exhausted from exchanging ipad after ipad.. its so damn noticable as well...
smoking monkey
macrumors 68020
Exactly.
Leave us alone you lucky buggers! Let us vent and sympathise together without your annoying and unwanted jibes!😀
i-aamir
macrumors 65816
Seems like your method might be a good option to try. Can the level of heat due to the screen being on for 14 hours damage or harm the internal components?
Your iPad must of been very hot? I better make sure it's on a cool surface so it doesn't burn the carpet!
Hi,
silly question but hoy did you manage to put white icons? I mean how you find or set those icons?
Because I think this is actually a very good testing.
Thanks you
silly question but hoy did you manage to put white icons? I mean how you find or set those icons?
Because I think this is actually a very good testing.
Thanks you
MrGimper
macrumors G3
Just use icons with a lot of white in them. Notes, reminders, safari, apple remote, airport util, calendar, clock etc etc.
MrGimper
macrumors G3
Air screen defect?
Also bear in mind there's 4 icons across in portrait and 5 icons across in landscape, so you'll have to put a white icon in the first place on the second row, in portrait, for it to be in the corner in landscape.
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It gets hot, but that's the point.
I've left it cooking all morning, and it's pretty much as good as any I've seen now.
Also bear in mind there's 4 icons across in portrait and 5 icons across in landscape, so you'll have to put a white icon in the first place on the second row, in portrait, for it to be in the corner in landscape.
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It gets hot, but that's the point.
I've left it cooking all morning, and it's pretty much as good as any I've seen now.
Thanks!
By the way did you checked with the keyboard as well? which is a good way to see if there is any screen issue when comparing each side.
By the way did you checked with the keyboard as well? which is a good way to see if there is any screen issue when comparing each side.
i-aamir
macrumors 65816
That's good to hear, I'm currently doing my one now as I got my replacement from the Milton Keynes apple store this morning and it still had a yellow hue on the left hand side. Hope it works.
Thanks for the info
MrGimper
macrumors G3
I did, but as I mentioned in my original post, this doesn't tie in with the white icon test. I.e keyboard looks different on the left side but icons are clear white when in the same screen position on the left.
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Just make sure that when you are going to check it, don't look at the bright white screen you left it on. Look away and switch to something else first, or you'll be blinded and anything you see for a while will look wonderful.
MrGimper
macrumors G3
You will not believe the amount of time I have spent looking at the settings page which made me question my eyes and my sanity. Thank you! You have confirmed what I (finally) suspected - the grey on the left navigation list is ever so slightly different on the main content on the right hand side.
However. ... my screen is still not perfect. I am on my 2nd iPad Air which is better than my first by a mile, but I still notice a very slight colour change when reading. It's there. Not as annoying as my first air, but it's there.
I think I'll keep it though. I sent a mail to tcook@apple.com just to see what apple will say. I suspect not a lot, if anything. Dunno why I bothered to be honest. I also included a link to this and other threads.
MrGimper
macrumors G3
When you open the settings page and look at the top left, the white looks a little yellow. I think this is because the icons in those rows are green and orange and blue, so your eyes see the white as yellow.
Open the settings screen but don't look at it. Then scroll the settings list up a bit (while not looking) until the notification centre/control center/DND settings are in the top left (grey icons). Do the whites in those rows look yellow? Bet not.
This post needs to be stickied to the top of this forum, emailed to all forum members and posted on all major tech blogs. Very well said.
iPad Air Simulator
For those who don't have a defective iPad, here is a bookmarklet to get the iPad effect from any browser:
http://olygraphy.com/ipadair/
Have fun 🙂
For those who don't have a defective iPad, here is a bookmarklet to get the iPad effect from any browser:
http://olygraphy.com/ipadair/
Have fun 🙂
ZBoater
macrumors G3
Because it gives you PERSPECTIVE. If you believe the forums. Every single iPad has a problem. If you read some posts, the come out and say this. And it's just not true. In fact, most iPads have no problems. But reading some posts, most people can't tell if their iPad is yellow or not. Seems a bit arrogant and narrow minded.
Listen, if you want to believe that every iPad, or most iPads, are defective, and that most people can't tell, and only the sages at Macrumors can spot these defects, go right ahead. Your only option is not to buy an iPad, or do like this other guy, buy two or three iPads at a time, open them up to see which one is ok. 🙄
Or, you can do what normal people do. Buy one, open it, and enjoy it. If you spot something wrong with it (and no doubt there's SOME defective units. To be expected in a production run of millions) then go back to Apple and let them make it right.
People post theirs are ok to give PERSPECTIVE to this discussion. Otherwise we are left with Apple as an evil company that insults it's customers producing defective product with no quality control. And that is simply not true.
luckylisp
macrumors 6502
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