Airline Body IATA to Launch COVID-19 Travel Passport App in April

[bodonnell202]

This is 100% false.

So you are saying that people who are vaccinated are as likely to transmit the virus to others as unvaccinated people, because that is 100% false. As I said, the science is saying that people who were vaccinated >12 days ago are on average 75% less likely to contract and therefore transmit the virus, in addition to significantly reducing the severity of illness for those that still do contract the virus. It is true that it doesn't 100% protect against transmission, hence the need for continued caution after vaccination until heard immunity is reached.

Edit - added link to a source which summarizes what current research is saying:
https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2021/03/04/vaccine-transmission

 

[StevieD100]

When a business asks to see my vaccination card I will leave and never return to that business. I have been vaccinated but will never support a business that requires to see it.

That business has a legal duty of care to protect its employees. Showing proof of vaccination is all part of that business exercising that duty of care. They are perfectly within their rights NOT to serve you without seeing this proof. As someone who has been shielding for a year, I'd not want to interact with anyone who has not been vaccinated.

 

[Goodeye]

This is 100% false.

Cite your sources

 

[eroslws]

This is 100% false.

And smoking doesn’t cause lung cancer, right?

There is a general consensus that vaccines reduce transmission. Just like there’s a general consensus with respect to gravity.

 

[qoop]

I like your optimism re a second path being available—though it may only lead to the reclusive village of readers in Fahrenheit 451.

I grew up near Portmeirion. Some of us will always want to escape

 

[qoop]

Cite your sources

I'm the source. Continue to cite me.

 

[subi257]

Maybe, but I'll swap my iPhone for home ownership, retirement savings and medical insurances any day of the week...

Me too

 

[bodonnell202]

The vaccinations are not protecting against "potentially carrying and transmitting," according to CDC (which is why you need to wear your masks even following your vaccination). Of course, CDC has not always gotten things right, so... (Recall how they told everyone to NOT wear masks early last year?)

The CDC is erring on the side of caution. The vaccine doesn't 100% protect against carrying and transmitting the virus, but it does significantly reduce the odds of contracting, carrying and transmitting the virus. No different than masks not 100% protecting against viral transmission but they do reduce the odds of viral transmission.

 

[qoop]

Just what we all need, don't want to be sitting next to an unknown person claiming its just a cold and turn out they were in full blown Covid-19.

You'd be wearing a mask and thus protected from everything.

 

[bodonnell202]

This is 100% false.

https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2021/03/04/vaccine-transmission

 

[Td1970]

That business has a legal duty of care to protect its employees. Showing proof of vaccination is all part of that business exercising that duty of care. They are perfectly within their rights NOT to serve you without seeing this proof. As someone who has been shielding for a year, I'd not want to interact with anyone who has not been vaccinated.

Feel free. I will never show anything to to go buy some toilet paper. Businesses will fail even faster if they start this crap. I am vaccinated. I won’t shop and any business that requires proof of vaccination.

 

[eroslws]

Feel free. I will never show anything to to go buy some toilet paper. Businesses will fail even faster if they start this crap. I am vaccinated. I won’t shop and any business that requires proof of vaccination.

And I, along with many others, would prefer to shop at places that do. Isn’t capitalism great?

 

[v3rlon]

I guess until the understand more about where covid is going and how its spread they must
figure these requirements will force more people to get the shot?
If everyone gets vaccinated then we can all get back to normal?

Yes. All you have to do is wear a mask for 14 days and flatten the curve and get back to normal...
Once the vaccine rolls out..
Once you personally have the vaccine...
Once you show your vaccine passport...
Once you pay your $9.95 a month to maintain your vaccine passport...
(by the way, this will begin to unfairly impact minorities at this stage, if it hasn't already as studies indicate they are not getting vaccinated at as high a rate)
We're altering the terms and conditions of the vaccine passport app. We want to factor in your credit score and your social media accounts to make sure you aren't bringing crazy ideas with you...
(like what? That this vaccine passport will turn into 'papers please')

Yeah, I think the goalposts are moving. Can we freaking COMMIT IN WRITING "when these specific conditions are met, we can put this nightmare behind us?"

We wiped smallpox off the face of the earth without this nonsense. Smallpox killed more people than Covid ever thought about.

We've got HIV on the ropes, and HIV is way scarier.

Polio is almost gone, and it made HIV/AIDS and COVID look like 'highly isolated.'

Passports are NOT required for us to get back to the normal we liked before this. I am tired of living in a hypochondriac's fantasy world. By all means, get the vaccine if that is the right choice for you. Brag about it to your friends if that is the right choice for you. Don't tell anyone if that is the right choice for you. Tell this idea to die in a fire.

Sure, carrying a vaccination card is needed when traveling to certain parts of the world. You should not need one to go to work, or to the store, or to get on a plane to grandma's house, or to cross state lines, or to enter affluent neighborhoods.

Just wait till the police 'stingray' that and start pulling over people for probable cause when it shows 'unvaccinated occupant' in the less crappy parts of town.

On the bright side, I am sure that once you are stopped, "the odds will ever be in your favor."

Soon we can all live in the dystopian future we built for ourselves. Fantastic. I was always hoping for the bright future with transporters and holodecks.

 

[KillerTree]

The only moron who said covid would be gone in 14 days was Trump. (Remember when he said it’ll be gone by Easter and everyone laughed at him?)

 

[Killerbob]

Feel free. I will never show anything to to go buy some toilet paper. Businesses will fail even faster if they start this crap. I am vaccinated. I won’t shop and any business that requires proof of vaccination.

uhhhhh, that's going to change the minds of business owners - NOT.

A year ago; same discussion, and all the dumbasses were going to boycott WallMart, CostCo, etc., and you know what, businesses still insisted on face masks. We have all seen the videos of the dumbasses trying to fight this, and we all laugh when they are eventually put in handcuffs

So go ahead. Boycott the businesses, I am sure they won't mind. You are the weakest link... Goodbye...

 

[veeco3110]

Stupid. It’s just as much my business as it’s yours. If you don’t want to get vaccinated, you don’t get to sit next to me. Is it clear?

A

I agree! What's next? A driver's license to drive a car? A social security number to get a job?

The horror!

A form of ID to vote... oh sorry I forgot about that one

 

[Td1970]

uhhhhh, that's going to change the minds of business owners - NOT.

A year ago; same discussion, and all the dumbasses were going to boycott WallMart, CostCo, etc., and you know what, businesses still insisted on face masks. We have all seen the videos of the dumbasses trying to fight this, and we all laugh when they are eventually put in handcuffs

So go ahead. Boycott the businesses, I am sure they won't mind. You are the weakest link... Goodbye...

Typical. Always resort to name calling. So sad you are.

I always wear my mask in public. How does this have anything to do with showing papers for entry? I highly doubt Walmart is stop and shop is going to require a paper check. If they do I’ll shop elsewhere.

Funny how everyone here is all for privacy. Them they are enthusiastically calling for a total lack of privacy.

 

[LV426]

People who predicted this a year ago were called "conspiracy theorists". Welcome to the future where your freedom is a thing of the past. They like to call it "the new normal"

People who refuse to vaccinate are a danger to society. That's my freedom to live they're tampering with.

 

[siddavis]

This individual liberty nonsense is theatrical drama at best and is eye rolling because it either demonstrates lack of basic knowledge of how things have worked with respect to public health or stem from sheer foolishness.

Individual liberty nonsense... That "nonsense" is precisely what makes America special and the greatest country/experiment in human history. That "nonsense" has done more than anything else bar none to raise humans out of squalor and servitude, so forgive me if I tell you bluntly to shove it.

Theatrical drama... That is rich coming from the group that has turned this situation into a global economic catastrophe because of fear and drama. What is now considered a measured approach is to command that every man/woman/child (am I allowed to say that anymore?) be injected with something that has only been given emergency use authorization.

 

[Killerbob]

Typical. Always resort to name calling. So sad you are.

That's not name calling. You should hear me when I do that. Saying that anti-waxxers and conspiracy theorists are dumbasses is just a confirmation that Darwin was right...

 

[Td1970]

That's not name calling. You should hear me when I do that. Saying that anti-waxxers and conspiracy theorists are dumbasses is just a confirmation that Darwin was right...

Yes it is. You are justifying it in you mind.

 

[Lemon Olive]

I'm not sure why people think it's their right to go wherever they like potentially carrying and transmitting a deadly virus to vulnerable individuals. In civil society we give up lots of "rights" for the common good.

"Deadly" virus. Good grief. Come back to reality.

 

[Lemon Olive]

That's not name calling. You should hear me when I do that. Saying that anti-waxxers and conspiracy theorists are dumbasses is just a confirmation that Darwin was right...

What did Darwin have to say about people who blindly follow the whims of people whose only goal is to control them?

 

[Nikhil72]

Individual liberty nonsense... That "nonsense" is precisely what makes America special and the greatest country/experiment in human history. That "nonsense" has done more than anything else bar none to raise humans out of squalor and servitude, so forgive me if I tell you bluntly to shove it.

Theatrical drama... That is rich coming from the group that has turned this situation into a global economic catastrophe because of fear and drama. What is now considered a measured approach is to command that every man/woman/child (am I allowed to say that anymore?) be injected with something that has only been given emergency use authorization.

Sure, individual liberties make america a good place, but it also generates some incredibly self centered individualism at the expense of fellow humans around them. Feel free to tell me to shove it but it ain’t happening; American principles are great in some ways but self centered in many, so feel free to opine how you want because I’ll continue to do so as well and just a correction to your point. America raises *some people* out of squalor. But the odds are tremendously stacked against people from the get go versus those born into socioeconomic and racial privilege and until Americans acknowledge its dark history, wealth inequity and resource imbalance will forever be an issue reflecting some broken aspect of this country, the so called experiment you describe.

 

[bodonnell202]

"Deadly" virus. Good grief. Come back to reality.

You first. So the 2.8 million dead is no big deal eh? Overwhelmed health care systems... who cares about that? You conspiracy theorist are a really special breed - you only see what you want to see.