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I am now opposed to Apple selling last year's phone as the $99 option.

They need to stop selling the 3GS now if this is how they're going to treat it next year. Dropping last year's phone from new features is one thing. (That's fine.) Dropping support for something you sold this year is not ok.

I'm not saying they need to support a phone 2 models back. (I'm not!) But they need to STOP selling them for so long if that's the way they feel. It's dishonest.

They knew the iPhone 3G wouldn't be getting new features in 2010. They should have stopped selling it in 2009.

I agree 100%.
 
The best part about this is all the posters on this site backing up the Get a Mac ads against Vista and requiring newer hardware.

You all thought it was criminal that a 3 or 4 year old computer could not run Aero without upgrades.

But now that it's Apple, it's totally acceptable, and to be expected. Got it.

Broad generalizations are fun, because it usually makes the person who is posting feel better.

Not all of us even cared about Aero when it came out. If it's easier for you to think about us in either the Windows group or Apple group, please do that. Most of us are in the middle, and don't want to see the other side fail, just want to see our side succeed.
 
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Stratus Fear said:
iPhone 3G still does everything it was originally sold with. Should I be mad that Honda started offering built-in Bluetooth capability the year after I bought my Civic and won't backport the feature to older models? I can still drive the car. The iPhone 3G can still make calls.

You would be asking for a hardware upgrade for the Bluetooth.

What this is about is software - no need to take the car back to the shop!

To add:

What we need is someone who has ran Airplay on a 3G - and report any performance issues.
 
As long as the phone (or whatever device) does what it is advertised to do when it comes out I don't think it's a bad thing. I think iOS 4 should never have been available for the 3G (Apple didn't try to make it work on the original iPhone, they should have just released it for 3GS (and iPhone 4 of course)

Exactly my point, just buttered with a bit less sarcasm. My iPhone 2G does waaay more now than i did when I bought it on launch-day. And I'm happy. I have no expectation that it should run iOS4, AirPlay, or anything new. It does what I bought it to do.
 
I am now opposed to Apple selling last year's phone as the $99 option.

They need to stop selling the 3GS now if this is how they're going to treat it next year. Dropping last year's phone from new features is one thing. (That's fine.) Dropping support for something you sold this year is not ok.

I'm not saying they need to support a phone 2 models back. (I'm not!) But they need to STOP selling them for so long if that's the way they feel. It's dishonest.

They knew the iPhone 3G wouldn't be getting new features in 2010. They should have stopped selling it in 2009.

I agree with this. The iPhone 3G hardware was far too long in the tooth to be still selling it in May-June 2010.
 
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Time to upgrade folks. The phone was discontinued months ago. What did you expect?

I think that's the point.....just in June some folks were able to buy this device, which now is actually performing worse than when they first bought it.
 
You are still ignoring the part where APPLE SAID ALL IOS DEVICES WOULD GET AIRPLAY.

I guess the moral of the story is not to trust what Apple says.

I'm not ignoring it at all. I just don't think it's pertinent because it's not a feature that Apple is selling. If you're forking over money for it on a phone Apple sells and they pull it, that's one thing, but the iPhone 3G is no longer sold and you have no expectation of them to do anything new for it at all that you haven't paid for.
 
Your Zune isn't a phone. Apple was offering updates for the iPod before the Zune was a twinkle in Bill's eye.

Not for that long, it was very uncommon for an old click wheel iPod to gain any significant new functionality via a firmware update.
 
And if Apple added the functionality and it performed slow as **** you would all complain about how Apple slowed down the 3G, get over it get a new phone.
 
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To add:

What we need is someone who has ran Airplay on a 3G - and report any performance issues.

I am interested to hear this. During the 4.2 betas I definitely had some issues with AirPlay, when doing other things like web browsing. That seems to be cleaned up in the GM but I really wonder if the 3G would have handled it well without skipping, etc while streaming out to another device.
 
I am now opposed to Apple selling last year's phone as the $99 option.

They need to stop selling the 3GS now if this is how they're going to treat it next year. Dropping last year's phone from new features is one thing. (That's fine.) Dropping support for something you sold this year is not ok.

I'm not saying they need to support a phone 2 models back. (I'm not!) But they need to STOP selling them for so long if that's the way they feel. It's dishonest.

They knew the iPhone 3G wouldn't be getting new features in 2010. They should have stopped selling it in 2009.

I agree.

Most iPhones are sold with a two year contract so you would hope they are supported for at least the first 12 months of the contract.
 
Not for that long, it was very uncommon for an old click wheel iPod to gain any significant new functionality via a firmware update.

That's true. For some old devices, the only software updates that continued on just fixed bugs. With such a limited functionality device, though, I don't know what else they'd do, and not that I've done any research on the Zune but I'd be surprised if they kept adding new features to it years after release.
 
Some people have better and more important things to do with their money than buying new Apple products every year.

My last Mac was purchased in 2000 (Power Mac G4) I am planning to buy a MacBook Pro soon, so I'm buying a new one each decade.

I've only purchased one iPod, and my iPhone pattern is one every 2 years.
 
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You would be asking for a hardware upgrade for the Bluetooth.

What this is about is software - no need to take the car back to the shop!

I don't think a hardware/software distinction is necessary. From a product point of view, in both cases you're adding functionality the model didn't originally have.

If said car didn't already have BT chip inboard then you would be asking the manufactures to alter the car.
The 3G has all the hardware, this is a SW download to enable. As other posters have stated, Apple stated this feature would made available to all 4.x devices. That's all I'm saying :)
 
Except that people buying an iPhone for the 1st time may have chose an iPhone 3G back in late May or early June (they don't know about the rumors) and now there 5 month old iPhone 3G is wicked slow, and can't even run anything.

Then don't upgrade. No one says you HAVE to be on the latest firmware.
 
Total bull. Considering it was on sale earlier this year. Worst part is that we know it WAS compatible and usable, Apple just decided to remove it. They'll probably put out some BS statement like "It didn't work well enough". You know over the last 4 years through the Intel transition, I've been increasingly disappointed with Apple.

Not saying Intel does bad things, but Apple's not doing good things since the transition.

Next year, back to the ThinkPad for me.

I'm sure Lenovo will do everything perfect for you and you'll be happy with every business decision they will make that affects you as the consumer. ;)
 
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If said car didn't already have BT chip inboard then you would be asking the manufactures to alter the car.
The 3G has all the hardware, this is a SW download to enable. As other posters have stated, Apple stated this feature would made available to all 4.x devices. That's all I'm saying :)

I understand that. I'm just saying from a product point of view this is irrelevant. The hardware and software as sold is one product. In either case (adding hardware to an old product, upgrading software on an old product) you are altering the original product. That said, if it performed well (which we don't know) I'd wish that Apple would have added it to the 3G. I just think it's an unfounded sense of entitlement to expect with no doubt that they would add it.
 


9 to 5 Mac reports that iPhone 3G owners have been struck with yet another blow, this time with the apparent removal of AirPlay functionality in the golden master version of iOS 4.2. The feature had been functional on the iPhone 3G in earlier developer builds, but appears to have been removed in the homestretch.The report notes that Apple's product page for the Apple TV claims that AirPlay functionality is coming on "all iOS 4 devices", but the company has apparently changed its mind about iPhone 3G compatibility for unknown reasons.


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The change is not the first to see the iPhone 3G lose access to a feature that had been enabled in the development process. Early developer builds of iOS 4.1 offered access to Game Center functionality for all iOS 4-compatible devices, but Apple later disabled the feature for the iPhone 3G and second-generation iPod touch before finally restoring compatibility for the second-generation iPod touch but leaving it out of the public release for the iPhone 3G.

Article Link: AirPlay Functionality Apparently Removed From iPhone 3G

There's no reason for it to not work and it was a selling point for the AppleTV I already bought. Now I get to tell my wife that an advertised feature for her iPod touch won't be coming to it. We were REALLY looking forward to her being able to push her movies and such from her 2nd gen iPod and my iPhone 3G to the brand new AppleTV(2). Guess I'll be jailbreaking her iPod now too to get this functionality which should be there and wouldnt impact the device performance in any way.
 
My last Mac was purchased in 2000 (Power Mac G4) I am planning to buy a MacBook Pro soon, so I'm buying a new one each decade.

I've only purchased one iPod, and my iPhone pattern is one every 2 years.

And in my opinion, that's the way it should be. We should purchase wisely, and be able to use our purchases until they're unable to perform at an acceptable level. I've never understood the people that buy the "latest & greatest" every year. I'm trying to base my purchases now on need instead of want, which may be the reason I cannot come up with any ideas for Christmas. :)
 
Read between the lines people.... Apple Consumer Electronics want you to upgrade and they will withhold features and give buggy software to make you do it.

I don't know any CE company that doesn't want consumers to continually upgrade. What do you think the whole 3D fad/phase is all about -- and if you have a HT you can't just buy a new TV, but likely will have to buy a new A/V receiver that can handle HDMI 1.4. (If you bought a nice rec w 1.3b a couple years ago, sorry, it's a POS now says the CE industry, and no cheap modular upgrade for you either).

BMW does the same thing w/ it's nav system. Want the latest GUI and features for your iDrive like the Google Maps ConnectedDrive -- sorry, you have to buy a whole new car.

The difference is that Apple has a firmer grip on consumers balls than most other companies.
 
"Apple came out with software updates that crippled my 3G! How could they sabotage my crappy phone's performance to include these features the hardware can't handle???"

2 weeks later...

"Apple is cancelling new features for my beloved iPhone 3G? How could they rob me of this feature that my phone was never designed to handle???"

God bless the internet :)
 
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