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What to expect? Oh, I don't know, perhaps a company not spewing lies and conflations? For example, Apple Consumer Electronics talks a good game with the 'environmental scorecard', but part of conservation is to expand the lifetime of current devices, thereby preventing new devices from being manufactured. Rather than doing this, and prolonging the lifetime of devices, they have done the opposite and targeted them with buggy software that effectively makes them unusable.

WTF is "Apple Consumer Electronics"? Second time you've said it.
Anyway, back to the topic. 3G owners need to quit whining. Find me a 3 year old phone from another company that still gets software updates. Your phone is outdated, suck it up. And I suppose you expect it to support iOS 5 too?
 
Ahem. November 2nd:

So is AirPlay disabled on the iPhone 3G? It was in the 4.2 Beta 2, but then when they took it out of Beta 3, it looks like they decided to leave it out of the 3G. Or am I not seeing it for some reason? My phone was able to play through my AirPort Express with Beta 2, but now the little button next to the volume bar is missing.

Also, from this thread which I started yesterday:


I've had all of the beta versions of iOS 4.2 and now the GM, and it's looking like AirPlay was removed from the iPhone 3G. iOS 4.2 Beta 2 had AirPlay available on my 3G, but now with the GM, it's missing. And before you ask, yes, I'm on a network with an AirPort Express that has AirTunes enabled. I can play to that AirPort Express through iTunes on my Mac Pro, so I know that it's not the network or the AirPort.

Has anyone with 4.2 GM on an iPhone 3G been able to get AirPlay to work?
 
My god people. Why is everyone always so angry? I strongly doubt that people buying an android 2.2 model today will be able to upgrade to 2.3 in a few weeks. And I can't upgrade my ******** Nokia phone eather, never have.

My iPod is two years old, yet it gets updates. Perhaps not all functionalities are supported, but I'm happy. Never had a device like it, it's all so smooth.

By the way, people that don't follow these forums don't even know about AirPlay and so they won't miss it. And you guys have always been able to live without it, so why not live a little longer without it untill you accidentally drive your car over your beloved iPhone 3G.
 
Don't worry. In two years, your iPhone 4 will be obsolete.

Yup, and by then I won't own it anymore so couldn't care less. I love the "I'm not made of money" argument people are using here. You pay obscene amounts of money every month for your plan, the phone itself is the cheap part. Sell your old iPhone when the new one comes out and it pays for most of if not the whole price of the new one. iPhone upgrades are practically free.
 
Apple can't win here. If they add all these new features, the phone will be even slower and people will complain. If they don't add them, people will complain that their phone which is essentially 4 year old technology (3G is almost identical to the original iPhone internally) doesn't have all the newest features.

I agree, Apple is in a tough situation.

In the fiercely competitive consumer phone market, they need to keep innovating, bumping performance, adding new models.

On the other hand, the iPhone is as much a handheld computer as a phone; and people don't expect a computer to go from launch, to becoming unsupported in just 2 to 2 1/2 years. (Remember, the 3G launched in many other countries much later than in the US).

Now that people have much more information on their phones, and have invested lots of money in phone apps; they're not going to change quite as often.
 
Except that people buying an iPhone for the 1st time may have chose an iPhone 3G back in late May or early June (they don't know about the rumors) and now there 5 month old iPhone 3G is wicked slow, and can't even run anything.

The sort of people who bought a 3G six months ago are the sort of people who don't care that it can't do AirPlay and likely don't even know what AirPlay is.

They bought an iPhone because their friends and everyone they know have iPhones. They're the people who upgrade every 2 years. They bought the 3G because it was the cheapest way to get an iPhone.
 
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Typical elitist :apple:-fanboy

He's absolutely right. The pace of change is what it is, and if the belly-achers on MR are continually out of touch with it, it's no one's fault but their own.

Apple has given the 3G a ridiculous amount of shelf-life already. With each update it's like you got a new phone. But that can't go on forever. Time to either accept that you now have a discontinued phone for which no one is required to give you even further support, or finally upgrade. I think Apple's just about done financing your 3G experience with modifying updates to work with older hardware when the focus should be on optimizing it for current-gen devices.

And if expense is still an issue, then it mght be a good idea to get out of the Apple game. You have to pay to play, as always.
 
This sure isn't going to help them with the lawsuit accusing Apple of crippling the 3G to coerce people into upgrading to iPhone 4.
 
Apple can't win here. If they add all these new features, the phone will be even slower and people will complain. If they don't add them, people will complain that their phone which is essentially 4 year old technology (3G is almost identical to the original iPhone internally) doesn't have all the newest features.

True, but then they shouldn't have advertised the feature as coming "for all iOS4 devices". It's looking more and more like Apple should have drawn a line in the sand a while ago and just made the 3G incompatible with iOS4 right from the beginning. Now it's kind of a mess and people are angry.
 
This sure isn't going to help them with the lawsuit accusing Apple of crippling the 3G to coerce people into upgrading to iPhone 4.

That lawsuit has no legal basis whatsoever. Apple is not obligated to give a device not even one single update after you buy it. They can legally sell you an iPhone and leave it the way it is forever. Software updates are a perk, not an obligation. And yet people are suing, ridiculous.
 
Maybe I'm dense, but can anyone explain the point of streaming a video from your Mac/PC (that already have a display attached) to the tiny screen of your iPhone?
 
Frankly, this is what Apple should have done with iOS4.x The 3G is simply not powerful enough to push these services anymore. I have one and I'm not that interested in the iPhone-4. The few days I put up with the horrid 4.0 iOS, I couldn't stand the nesting of apps within cubes. I'm seriously considering the WP7 and don't mind being on the ground floor again.
 
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That lawsuit has no legal basis whatsoever. Apple is not obligated to give a device not even one single update after you buy it. They can legally sell you an iPhone and leave it the way it is forever. Software updates are a perk, not an obligation. And yet people are suing, ridiculous.

I sort of agree, however, they did not just "leave it that way", they went ahead and told people to upgrade, then started deleting features (of which this is another one). Most 3G owners feel the 4.0 was actually a huge step backward for them and made the phone borderline unusable (my girlfriend has a 3G and I can confirm that), and Apple provided no easy downgrade path for people to go back to what did work (3.x).
 
iPhone 3G still does everything it was originally sold with. Should I be mad that Honda started offering built-in Bluetooth capability the year after I bought my Civic and won't backport the feature to older models? I can still drive the car. The iPhone 3G can still make calls.

So it is possible for someone to post something that makes sense on Macrumors....

The iPhone 3G had two fully supported OS iterations. 2.x / 3.x. Once 4.x hit, it was not at the forefront anymore.

It is, however, absolutely idiotic to complain about new iOS implementations for hardware that was first released two and a half years ago.

If you purchased an iPhone 3G for $99 in the past year and are now complaining your phone is "out of date", then I'm sorry, but you get what you pay for. Just like when I bought my Samsung plasma and a month later, 3d tv's were released. Technology, especially mobile phones, is constantly moving forward. Live with what you have and upgrade when you can. Do not moan when your old tech does not work with new software. 3.1.3 still works great and lets you do everything you could do (and more) on launch date.

The main problem, as others have stated, is Apple's promotion to use an iPhone 3G with 4.x software. That was a big mistake (or an easy way to get upgraders). Apple should have provided a simple way to install previous versions of iOS or not support the iPhone 3G at all (or until they can resolve the performance issues). I'd choose the latter.
 
Boo hoo. Why won't my PowerBook G3 run Snow Leopard? I'm so upset. :/ Sarcasm.

But anyway, people need to do research before buying anything. Why would someone buy a model of anything 2 generations old. With a simple google search anyone could see that iPhones are released every summer. Don't buy an old one and two months later be pissed a new one is out. If you had researched it you would have held off buying until the new model is out. And to the people complaining about not being able to upgrade because of money... That's BS. Sell your current iPhone of craigslist or eBay and it will pay for the new iPhone, and possibly leave you with cash left over. The 3G has a quarter of the RAM of the iPhone 4. There is no way it will do near what the 4 does. If you didn't do your research, and don't understand how to sell your old iPhone, stop complaining.
 
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