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For a device which is online 24/7 not updating leaves you vulnerable to security exploits.

Totally agree, when it mentions bug fixes why should you not want to update. Do you expect your average customer to research all updates, no.

I own a 3GS but would be annoyed if a future update crippled the speed without allowing me to easily downgrade.
 
They're gonna force you to upgrade, one way or another. There's no point in anyone getting mad anymore.

Nothing new from Apple, if they have you by the tennis balls they will use it to their advantage. ;)

Welcome to apple hardware.
 
Then don't upgrade. No one says you HAVE to be on the latest firmware.

Apple doesn't say you have to but when you plug it into iTunes, they do recommend upgrading.
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How many people just clicked update because they trusted Apple?
 
They're gonna force you to upgrade, one way or another. There's no point in anyone getting mad anymore.

If they give new functionality and performance is sub-par, people will sue.

If they don't give it, you can complain but really you've got old tech - I had a Palm Treo and it got a few minor updates but the support was so minor. Apple has added a lot to the 3G and it's kind of at it's limit.

Instead of complaining be happy you (and I) have folders and other enhancements.

I've seen multi-tasking and other features added through jail breaking and the poor performance and micro-management to make that stuff work is just not worth it.
 
I am now opposed to Apple selling last year's phone as the $99 option.

They need to stop selling the 3GS now if this is how they're going to treat it next year. Dropping last year's phone from new features is one thing. (That's fine.) Dropping support for something you sold this year is not ok.

I'm not saying they need to support a phone 2 models back. (I'm not!) But they need to STOP selling them for so long if that's the way they feel. It's dishonest.

They knew the iPhone 3G wouldn't be getting new features in 2010. They should have stopped selling it in 2009.


Realistically, the $99 model (always last years throw off) is the budget model and no one should expect it to have the same features at the current model. People willing to buy last years model to save $ have to weigh features vs. prices in their buying decision. The 3GS as a phone is perfectly fine and will be no less obsolete when it doesn't get all the features of iOS 5.

I agree though that Apple should not advertise features if it's not going to follow through.

Bottomline: if you want full features buy the latest phone. If you want to save $ and storage isn't a consideration buy the el cheapo last year model.
 
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Time to upgrade folks. The phone was discontinued months ago. What did you expect?

Well to be fair, it was still on sale for $99 until the release of the iPhone 4, so people who bought it then would still be stuck on a contract.

Airplay isn't as big of a deal as Game Center for developers though. Apple's decision to remove game center on the 3G means that devs either drop support of the hardware or implement something like OpenFeint alongside of GC.
 
Fantastic! I have a 3G, and I couldn't be happier!

Look, after 4.0--I *wanted* them to pull features if they were going to be frustrating to use. I struggled with that phone for months until they finally made things a bit better in 4.2. If they're going to leave something out in 4.2 iPhone 3G support, I'm confident it's because it has performance issues. If they're trying to avoid the massive mistake that was 4.0 on the iPhone 3G, I'm really happy to see them having learned their lesson.

I'll probably never know for sure, but even if I'm wrong, so what? It's not like I had a feature and it got ripped out.
 
What we have learnt: The more expensive your phone, the more often you have to buy a new one. I'm still using my Nokia 3220 that I bought second-hand 5 years ago. It has no features, so it cannot disappoint.

I would still like an iPhone though.
 
Realistically, the $99 model (always last years throw off) is the budget model and no one should expect it to have the same features at the current model.

Yes, but the website needs to be more clear. Someone buying a 3G in May of 2010 should have see something saying "iOS 4.0 will not be available for this phone" and that's what they should have done.

What bothers me is the way Apple pretends it'll keep supporting these things forever when we all know it's not true. It's not their policies that suck...it's their communiction.
 
And if you do update and realise you shouldn't have done, it's a right pain to get back to the previous version.

Great point. Apple needs to change that.

I upgraded to 4.0 and with my friend Google, was able to get it back to 3.0 (and it remained at 3.0 until I sold it)
 
Give us a product that works and we'll upgrade!!!

It wouldn't be so bad upgrading if the iPhone 4 Antenna issue had been resolved! I want to keep using my iPhone 3 until I can use an iPhone 4 that doesn't also require a bumper to bloody work (already sent one back as it went from 4 bars to no signal in my 'death grip' !!!!) ... sod's law I'll upgrade and then in 3 months voila ... iPhone 5!!!

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My original 30GB Zune always has and still does get free firmware updates. Apple was doing what first again?

Interesting. Can your original Zune play the new 3D games or other apps?

To those people who bought the 3G just before iPhone 4 was released, and still expected it to get all the latest software features, I'd say you need to be a better consumer. With a few minutes of research, you would have known that you should have waited a month or 2 for new hardware or the 3GS at a lower price. Basically, if you're coming here and whining about not getting new power user features that you never originally paid for, you should know better.

Regarding others who say Apple is just holding this back to get people to upgrade, it's important to point out that nobody outside of Apple has seen a 3G streaming video to an Apple TV. The button might have been there, but there's a good chance the hardware just couldn't handle it. I'm not saying that's the case, but nobody knows exactly why they're doing this, and they just got reamed for allowing 3G owners to upgrade to iOS 4 and have it perform poorly.
 
"Apple came out with software updates that crippled my 3G! How could they sabotage my crappy phone's performance to include these features the hardware can't handle???"

2 weeks later...

"Apple is cancelling new features for my beloved iPhone 3G? How could they rob me of this feature that my phone was never designed to handle???"

God bless the internet :)

No, however I did buy another product, the AppleTV, with the intent to use with my iPhone 3G as it was advertised. "All iOS 4 devices" does include my wife's second generation touch and my iPhone 3G, neither of which will seem to work with it.
It's not an always on feature and it's not a CPU intensive operation, it's a straight stream of data to the AppleTV, there's nothing there to prohibit the functionality.
 
Total bull. Considering it was on sale earlier this year. Worst part is that we know it WAS compatible and usable, Apple just decided to remove it. They'll probably put out some BS statement like "It didn't work well enough". You know over the last 4 years through the Intel transition, I've been increasingly disappointed with Apple.

Not saying Intel does bad things, but Apple's not doing good things since the transition.

Next year, back to the ThinkPad for me.

I think you may want to rethink. I have ThinkPad and since Lenovo acquired that line of laptops from IBM it has been all down-hill. I was using a T61p, now a W500.... both have issues.
 
Except that people buying an iPhone for the 1st time may have chose an iPhone 3G back in late May or early June (they don't know about the rumors) and now there 5 month old iPhone 3G is wicked slow, and can't even run anything.

Their fault for going cheap?
 
Not surprised

The 3G already struggled to compress and send realtime bluetooth audio, so it's not a surprise it would struggle to compress, encrypt and send the more complex Apple Lossless format used in Airplay.

People are already complaining their 3Gs are slow, so why add more features to make it even worse...
 
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Time to upgrade folks. The phone was discontinued months ago. What did you expect?

If only my operator (Telia in Sweden) offered some kind of upgrade plan. Maybe they do and just don't advertise it, but I can't find it anywhere. It seems I have to see out the minimum 24 month contract and then move to the next next model by buying it and shifting my contract and number to it.
 
What we have learnt: The more expensive your phone, the more often you have to buy a new one. I'm still using my Nokia 3220 that I bought second-hand 5 years ago. It has no features, so it cannot disappoint.

I would still like an iPhone though.

Who said you have to buy a new one? I suspect people will have original iPhones, still working more than 5 years after they were originally purchased. It's just that Apple develops new and compelling features that make people want to buy a new one.
 
So half the iPhone 3G owners are screaming "why can't I easily downgrade to iOS 3.1.3?!?!?!" and the other half are screaming "why can't I use all the iOS 4.x features?!?!?!"

the only people i feel sorry for were iPhone 3G owners who purchased a new Apple TV with the intent on using AirPlay -- it is probably long-past the 30-day return policy on that new Apple TV.

i think Apple does need to make a plan for supporting AirPlay on the iPhone 3G simply because they advertised the Apple TV that way. They could probably hide behind the fact that the iOS4 disclaimer says "not all features on all devices", but that Apple TV marketing was definitely misleading to some.
 
Their fault for going cheap?

What bugs me about this argument is that Apple has gone WELL out of their way to explain again and again how selling a cheap Mac would be bad because it would make them look bad. Even though "their fault for going cheap" could apply to a cheap Mac-buyer, Apple doesn't want that experience to be part of their reputation.

So why is it ok with iPhones?

That's what I don't understand. The $99 iPhone makes perfect sense for some other company. It doesn't match what Apple has continuously said about themselves when it comes to the Mac.

It's a difference that I don't understand.
 
This story might not even happen. Apple could restore functionality.
9to5 jumps to conclusions on a regular basis.
 
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Some of you are ridiculous. Stop acting like a damn victim, it's just one tiny feature. You guys are acting like they're taking away the calling functionality. I mean what did you honestly expect? It's like 3 years old now.
 
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