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There are better 3rd party products that are ready to go for purchase and great qualities.
There may be third party products, but none will be "better". The W1 chip is truly an advance. These are just things that most OEMs would simply ignore; but Apple will not release until they are fixed.
 
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Nah, you're just like all the other know-it-alls here, bitching and whining about how THEY would NEVER allow this to happen. Without knowing what actually happened.

I find it amusing.

You're the one reading into my history.
This is a topic on a rumor on a possible problem. We discuss the possibility that the problem, as stated (or similar), is real. If not, good for apple. If you don't want to discuss this, well then this ain't the thread for you.

It still doesn't matter because the Airpods are not available yet, there is no release date, and the iPhone is already without a headphone jack.
 
How dare the Wall Street Journal want paying for their work. Because, clearly, all their staff work for free.

Anyone know how I can get an iPhone without the greedy purchase price?

Or, and just hear me out here, they could improve their product so they have so many visitors to the site each day that they could charge advertisers enough to cover their costs and even make a profit. Shoot, I'd be willing to bet that their numbers would be even higher if they'd drop the pay wall!
 
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Or, and just hear me out here, they could improve their product so they have so many visitors to the site each day that they could charge advertisers enough to cover their costs and even make a profit. Shoot, I'd be willing to bet that their numbers would be even higher if they'd drop the pay wall!

They tried, it didn't work. It's the WSJ, it can't live on clickbaits.
 
I wear the ReSound MFi hearing aids. I'm surprised that Apple hasn't tapped into that knowledge for creating these. When a battery dies on one of these- the other pics up mono sound. and when it's stero I have not noticed any delay between the two.
 
Besides there are no Apple devices that do BT 5 so what difference does it make?

You're correct. It doesn't. And BT 5 is still
In advancement and wouldn't apply To Gen 2 of the Airpods, assuming they release with BT 5 capabilities. I'm just going to enjoy the first Gen Airpods when they release and not worry about every technological change in the future.
 
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AirPods were originally slated to launch in October, but the wireless earphones were later delayed. Apple said it needed "a little more time" before they are ready for customers, and it has yet to provide an official update since.

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While the exact reason for the delay remains unclear, a person familiar with the development of AirPods told The Wall Street Journal that Apple's troubles appear to be related to its "efforts to chart a new path for wireless headphones," in addition to resolving what happens when users lose one of the earpieces or the battery dies.Last month, Barclays analysts said AirPods should enter production in December. Their research note said quantities would be limited to between 10 and 15 million AirPods to start. Meanwhile, an alleged email response from Apple CEO Tim Cook said AirPods should begin shipping over the "next few weeks."

With just two weeks remaining in the holiday shopping season, some believe Apple should now wait until the new year to launch AirPods, in line with an early rumor about a January 2017 launch. The wireless earphones remain listed as both "coming soon" and "currently unavailable" on different sections of Apple's website.

Article Link: AirPods Delay Attributed to Apple Ensuring Both Earpieces Receive Audio at Same Time
 
The ability to sync audio between the buds is fundamental technology to the product. These things should have done that long BEFORE they did anything else. It's unthinkable that the essential functionality of the product doesn't work even as they are announced to the public as the ameliorating factor in removing the headphone jack. What good is easy pairing, pause when removed, gyroscopic controls, etc. when the most basic function fails?

There is absolutely no justification for giving Apple a pass on this debacle.

Like I said, product launches are very complex. It doesn't work the way you think it does. You don't lock things down well ahead of time and then launch them. You have a project timeline with a lot of moving pieces and there's usually a mad dash to the finish line.

Someone was clearly confident that part of the tech could be completed in time so Tim announced it on stage. It didn't work out that way. It happens. They're human too.

Steve Jobs announced a white iPhone that took a year to finally hit the streets. And that's just paint! Admittedly, a pristine white is the hardest color to produce but it goes to show you not everything always goes according to plan... sometimes even the simplest things can trip you up.
 
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Tim Cook should really step down. Whoever he put in charge of product testing/development should be fired.
the group incharge with product testing/development found a problem and they're addressing it. Why should anyone be fired? thats ridiculous.
 
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My guess is Apple knew all along they weren't ready yet but wanted to push them along with the iPhone 7 release to assure that early adopters would come out strong. This wasn't a surprise for them.
 
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Distribute dental plaque more evenly over left/right pods to avoid falling out
 
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Besides there are no Apple devices that do BT 5 so what difference does it make?

I think that's the point i'm making. That we're just getting lame excuse after lame excuse why things are buggy, slow to release, or just not fully functional.

I'm just saying, Bluetooth 5 MIGHT change things in the future, but right now, Wireless Bluetooth headsets are very limited in use do to the current blue tooth limitations
 
I've had bluetooth on all my smartphones for the last 6+ years and never wanted to own wireless headphones. I hate wireless headphones; terrible sound quality, i gotta fiddle around with turning on/off blue tooth to reduce battery drain, it's another device i need to remember to keep charged, it's expensive and worst of all, after 400+ charges, you can throw away those wireless headphones straight into the trash.

All that BS to put it up with just for the sake of wireless isn't worth it. I'd actually pay extra to be wired. I do a lot of running these days and wired hasn't bothered me one bit.

NO THANKS.
It doesn't sound like you've given wireless a try recently but we all have our own experiences. Personally, I hear no difference at all in sound quality unless I'm listening to something orchestral. Battery drain using bluetooth LE is so minimal, turning off anything else would save you much more power. Sure you have to charge it just like your phone, watch, etc. I get a few months or years out of each pair and it doesn't bother me because they are so cheap and I look forward to improvements and new designs anyway. The whole reason I got into running was because of wireless headphones. Having your arms free and being abler to bend over an tie your shoes without tripping over wires is worth it to me. i would probably pay 2x for wireless if I had to.
 
the group incharge with product testing/development found a problem and they're addressing it. Why should anyone be fired? thats ridiculous.
I totally agree with this one. Engineers are not at fault but Phil rushing annoucement almost 6 months or more.
 
Seems to be subtle enough to delay launch... I like all the excuses on this forum that the issue does not exist, it's so subtle etc etc....though seems apple disagrees ;)

Could it be reviewers did not have the final product ? Also where are these reviews people talk about? Do you guys mean the pre-production demo units ?
So review units were/are good but the final product isn't? That makes no sense.
 
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There's nothing wrong with that, as long as your solution actually fulfills a real, important need. I don't care if they charge $400 more, if the need is real.
What gets me is when they remove a perfectly functional piece, for no real reason ("courage"? Really?) and sell you a non-needed solution for $150.

Also this "floppy disk was also removed" rethorical crap has to end sooner or later.
Well you brought up the floppy disk example. I'm the iPhone user that rarely runs out of power so I want a much thinner and lighter device. Most people do. The only way to get there is by removing unnecessary components that take up a lot of space. I consider the headphone jack unnecessary especially since most people don't use it and/or are happy to use lightning port instead.
 
Look in a mirror. Now, that is the greedy one.

You want stuff for free? Make it yourself. This generation has gotten so spoiled that even 99¢ is too much to pay for an app.

I'll happily pay for quality apps, but I have virtually zero tolerance for advertising.
 
Anyone have a mirror to the article without the greedy paywall?

To bypass most paywalls, perform a Google search for the article's title and then click on its link in search results. Works perfectly for the WSJ. If that fails, try doing the same in a private browsing window.
 
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How did you survive the removal of the floppy drive?!?!?!?

Kept a USB floppy drive in a drawer for the infrequent occasions I needed to retrieve an old file because, by the time Apple dropped the floppy, it was an obsolete format that had long been too low capacity and slow to be useful.

In fact, Apple didn't just drop it overnight - it was first made optional in the PowerBooks that, at the time, had two interchangeable floppy/CD/battery modules. The iMac came later.

Meanwhile, many people have expensive and perfectly good headphones with 3.5mm jacks - that can incidentally be used with the inflight entertainment on planes - not to mention the issue of plugging your phone into a hifi while it's on charge. Even my Bluetooth cans can use a 3.5mm lead if they run out of battery.

Ok, carrying an adapter isn't the end of the world, but it's another thing to drop and lose and there's no huge advantage to using lightning - unless you have magical golden ears that can detect the extra 3' of cable between the DAC and the phones (in which case I'm sure Monster have a $200 consecrated copper digital audio cable with your name on it).
 
It doesn't sound like you've given wireless a try recently but we all have our own experiences. Personally, I hear no difference at all in sound quality unless I'm listening to something orchestral. Battery drain using bluetooth LE is so minimal, turning off anything else would save you much more power. Sure you have to charge it just like your phone, watch, etc. I get a few months or years out of each pair and it doesn't bother me because they are so cheap and I look forward to improvements and new designs anyway. The whole reason I got into running was because of wireless headphones. Having your arms free and being abler to bend over an tie your shoes without tripping over wires is worth it to me. i would probably pay 2x for wireless if I had to.

Great... so why should wired folks have to suffer if both can and have existed for years? Just leave it be and the discussion is over.
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And the 3.5mm jack should have stayed. Don't like it, don't use it. Pure and simple.
 
Kept a USB floppy drive in a drawer for the infrequent occasions I needed to retrieve an old file because, by the time Apple dropped the floppy, it was an obsolete format that had long been too low capacity and slow to be useful.

In fact, Apple didn't just drop it overnight - it was first made optional in the PowerBooks that, at the time, had two interchangeable floppy/CD/battery modules. The iMac came later.

Meanwhile, many people have expensive and perfectly good headphones with 3.5mm jacks - that can incidentally be used with the inflight entertainment on planes - not to mention the issue of plugging your phone into a hifi while it's on charge. Even my Bluetooth cans can use a 3.5mm lead if they run out of battery.

Ok, carrying an adapter isn't the end of the world, but it's another thing to drop and lose and there's no huge advantage to using lightning - unless you have magical golden ears that can detect the extra 3' of cable between the DAC and the phones (in which case I'm sure Monster have a $200 consecrated copper digital audio cable with your name on it).

Perfectly stated.
 
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