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Still a major PITA if you use them on anything more than an iPhone.
That’s why I'm A big fan of the Jabra line. Currently the Active Elite 75t. I just need something that can coexist seamlessly between my Pixel and and my iPad Pro. They work great and I’m very happy with them.
 
My mom is on her 4th iPhone (4S,6,6S+,11pro) and uses it to manage her bank and medical portal in addition to FaceTime and messages & email.

I set it all up for her across an ocean using iCloud in my Mac, and populated her contacts as well, and she maintains it.

Also uses it to manage her hearing aid. She’s only got 25% hearing in one ear and the made for iPhone integration is a hood send for telephonic conversations.

To my understanding of here is a way you can set up watches for seniors and kids who don’t have an iPhone.
That's awesome. Yea, they've never used smartphones and are 91) I tried to get them an iPad years ago, when they were in their early 80's and they couldn't do it. But they are still relatively ok using their iMac, which I regularly connect to remotely in order to help them with "why is everything broken in my google" questions :D
 
Fingers crossed Apple offers iPhone Pro/Pro Max in Jet Black. The titanium frame in Jet Black would look stunning.
Given the challenges with getting coatings to stick to titanium, especially a high gloss black, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. In titanium, I’d prefer a raw metal finish, even if it were to show some discoloration with use. It’s such a unique metal in and of itself, that any discoloration would be part of its uniqueness.

I’d love to see Apple branch out further in the future and offer some other unique metals for iPhone frames, like carbon steel, brass or even a tungsten.
 
Still a major PITA if you use them on anything more than an iPhone.
not really.

no issues setting up in Windows for Cisco IP Comm (no longer supported and end of life) and in Cisco Jabber softphone.
key for using as a headset for soft-phones is to use the 'AirPods Hands-Free' and disable iMessage Announce or simply disconnect from your Mac/iPad/iPhone (as due to the H/W chip will auto route connection to Apple devices if not disconnected in Bluetooth menu).

Once you understand the basics of bluetooth no issues using with any device. I mean the world has had over 10yrs, so unless a very specific use case issue moreover its been sweet.
 
Make it user battery replaceable and you will create a truly remarkable product.

Until then, the life cycle of the product is completely against what Apple stands for.
 
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Make it user battery replaceable and you will create a truly remarkable product.

Until then, the life cycle of the product is completely against what Apple stands for.
Yep. Can’t pat yourself on the back as an environmentally friendly company with a great product if it’s going to be in the landfill in 2-3 years because the battery died. They’re getting better, at least.
 
There’s been a lot of innovation under Tim too:
- 64 bit processors
- TouchID
- FaceID
- Apple silicon in iOS
- From Intel to Apple in Mac
- processors from 15 down to 4 Nmeter.
- Lightning cable
- HomeKit
- GymKit
- ECG
- PulseOx
- Heart Monitoring
- A-fib detection
- Gait Monitoring
- Fall Detection
- Crash Detection
- Satellite 911
- Apple Pay
- Apple Card
- Apple TV+
- iCloud+
- Swift
- Metal
- etc etc etc

People forget how much has been accomplished and changed since Steve died.

Edit: I forgot:
- Pencil
- Home Pod & HP Mini
- AirPods Max
- Beats lineup
- Maps
- Airtags
- Watch (Al, Fe, Ti, ceramic, and Ag) and more band materials, colors and types than the Tootsie Roll Owl can comprehend.)
and of course Apple Microfiber Cloth!

I'm VERY curious what you mean by innovation 'under Tim Cook', as some may read that to be something he fostered vs simply just approving of. VERY different perceptions. Many people forget was was already in the works or done prior to Tim directing Apple.

Regarding some of your 'innovations under Tim Cook' you're mistaking of quite a few:

64 bit processors: Jobs.
> that was implemented form the original hardware engineers from NeXT:
You can thank Ave T, etc and software guru Bertrand Serlet.
64-bit was implanted with the Apple G5 and was from their partnership with IBM. This wasn't Tim's doing.


I'm going to lump these in with the 64-bit processes since many seem to think these are separate,
Apple silicon in iOS: Oh you mean ARM chips right?! Again Jobs.​
> the OG iPhone had an ARM chip as per any smartphone for years prior as well. Nothing new not even something worth mentioning about as this was an industry standard:​
Nokia S60, SonyEricsson UIQ, HTC as OEM devices for carriers in Europe such as Orange, Vodafone, EE, etc all used Windows smartphones using ARM chips.​
example ...​
Again nothing to even note. BUT if you meant ARM 64-bit CHIP ok then YES that is worth mentioning BUT the innovation was TSMC not Apple, not Tim at all.​
processors from 15 down to 4 Nmeter.: Jobs again, The same as above this was a TSMC innovation NOT Apple. Apple nor Tim had anything to do from design to implementation here. What the DID innovate was the implementation of the ARM reference design! VERY big difference.​


Touch ID: Jobs - this was already in the works for years prior.
iPhone 5S released 2013 (Cook CEO 2011 yes).
Sapphire Crystal Deal (1st wk of 11.2013) a 5yr deal: https://allthingsd.com/20131107/why-apples-new-sapphire-deal-is-a-big-deal/

> again not solely from Tim. It's the engineering team as a whole and for a very long time. I'd say under cook this deal was signed very late before/after realizing production yields had serious issues, before backing out.


From Intel to Apple in Mac: Jobs all over all day everyday!
> This was initially by Steve Jobs and Intel CEO the late Paul Stevens Otellini III.
Jobs was specifically for10yrs against Intel inside a Mac and after several meeting attempts and impromptus from Intel CEO's Otellini the most aggressive and persistent got it happening.


Heart Monitoring: Released under Cook ... but these are not innovations by Apple.
- A-fib detection
- Gait Monitoring
- Fall Detection
- Crash Detection
^ These are software implementation using existing or new hardware that the industry developed not something Apple developed, nor designed and then reached out for hardware to be made. This distinction is critical as it gives the wrong impression. YES Apple delivered these to the industry first (except Heart Monitoring) and as always in Apple fashion did so with aplomb finesse that we all know and love.

Swift: unsure but documentation of release 1.0 yes under Cook.
This is a tough one. Apple's documentation states it reached 1.0 on Sept 9th 2014, and released on that date. yet how long was Chris Lattner, Doug Gregor, John McCall, Ted Kremenek, and Joe Groff all been working on Swift prior to that date? A year, 6 yrs? Who really knows.

Oh wait ... https://exyte.com/blog/introduciton-to-swift
Shows 1 yr prior to Tim Cook - so it was already under development.

The development of Swift started in 2010. At that time, Chris Lattner (the creator of LLVM and Clang) had just finished adding C++ support for Clang, a compiler for the C-like language family. He was a bit burned out on C and decided that there was a better way of doing development.


Together with Bertrand Serlet, the head of the Apple software team, they came to a new, better alternative to Objective-C through numerous whiteboard sessions. In the beginning, the language was called Shiny (as in “this new shiny thing”).


More than a year later, Lattner shared his project with his colleagues and managers at Apple. They admired the work Chris had done and assigned a team of developers to continue the project.

Beats lineup:
LOL ... Beats Studio Headphones, their first product was 2008, July 25th. Nice try ;)


BTW ... Maps has a shaded history that I'm sure Tim Cook would NOT want to be happy nor associated with its original release, surely you now about that force handed apology that was not done/obeyed by Forstall. Surely his vision was sound and still the basic UI at its very very core (Colours, intensity of such, pretty much looks the same as the original, whereas all his Skumorph design UI bits in older iOS3-6 is all but gone; Contacts still looks like a phone book FYI). I'm sure Tim takes pride in the re-build of Maps though. So that's one thing we have to add a big footnote too. ;)

Cheers.

PS I could be wrong with some or a few above and I welcome correction.
 
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Yep. Can’t pat yourself on the back as an environmentally friendly company with a great product if it’s going to be in the landfill in 2-3 years because the battery died. They’re getting better, at least.
Landfill or not begins with the end-user.
Unless Apple implements some sort of incentive ... say a GiftCard of $ amount of non-working hardware or hardware with simply a dead battery to customer that returns it, it's up the end user that chooses appropriate and sound recycling or not. This goes for ANY product in the entire world!

I mean how often has any of us since 1970 tossed out a non-rechargeable or non-working AA/AAA battery into the garbage can/bag BEFORE recycling became even a thing? How many of us do so in appropriate recycling bins at work anywhere in the world? How many realize even dead batteries, for the majority have components that can be recycled and re-used??!! Moreover how important and exponentially profitable every year such a recycling business IS>!
 
I like the AirPods, but i'm not a fan of a disposable device after roughly 3 years.

Apple should at least give some kind of trade in bonus towards purchase of new ones after the batteries are no longer usable.

And don't be fooled, Apple removed the headphone jack and came up with these purely for profit. And profit they made and keep making it.
 
Another example of a product that Apple created that everyone made fun of (looks like tampons hanging out of your ears… remember that one??) and turns out Apple has had the last laugh.
 
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I think for the cost, they all should be made out of ceramic like the Apple Watch Edition, and the case be made from aluminum or steel. Plastic waste.
 
I did a battery warranty on my original AirPods 2, second generation after two years of use.

Of course they test them at the store and they were failing according to their tests and there were some audio degradation as well so they gave me another set with another case.

Unfortunately I couldn't extend the warranty on the new set but I figure I'll get another two years out of those.

So it's important to get the AppleCare when you buy them because most likely you'll be able to replace them for free after two years of use so that's well worth it. :p
 
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I like the AirPods, but i'm not a fan of a disposable device after roughly 3 years.

Apple should at least give some kind of trade in bonus towards purchase of new ones after the batteries are no longer usable.

And don't be fooled, Apple removed the headphone jack and came up with these purely for profit. And profit they made and keep making it.
How do you reckon apple removed the headphone jack “purely for profit”?
 
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Be careful what you say here, people will come for you. AirPods are nowhere near other true wireless earbuds in terms of sound quality. Sony, Anker, B&O, Sennheiser, and maybe even JBL make better sounding TW earbuds.
You're completely wrong. I've tried other brands and they aren't nearly as good as the Apple AP and APP!
 
Fantastic user experience, average sound quality, disappointing battery.
The battery was stupendously disappointing on the first and second gen models. I had to replace them every year because the battery became rubbish. That’s not the case with the 3rd gen, interestingly. Had those over a year now and battery is still excellent. Sound quality is also much improved over first and second gen.
 
AirPods sold many on the concept of wireless, but at what cost? Lossy AAC compression that was never necessary or part of the equation when we still had the wires.
you do realize that the about decade and a half of iPod/iTunes dominance was all lossy?
From its launch in 2003 up and even until today, you can only buy up to 256 KBPSAAC files on iTunes.
Amazon still mostly sells lossy MP3s.
So this idea that lossy audio is something “new” or “destroying the audio world” is ridiculous.
Apple knows lossy AAC is fine, and they’ve known it long before the AirPods came out, even long before Steve Jobs died.
Not saying that lossless audio shouldn’t happen eventually, but at the moment Apple knows that the trade-offs are far worse than the benefits, and I happen to agree.
 
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