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a USB key:

a device that enables a software function to occur only when the device is onncected through USB

Its quite old school, serial keys have been around for a long time. Most people dropped the key in USB, cause there are so many more clean ways to do this w/o a device.


Thats great and all but has nothing to do with an internal wireless card.Not only that but where on Apples site does it show or say "includes USB key/device" ??

I call bunk on this rumor.
 
SOX gets blamed for everything because companies don't like the law. My IT department tried telling me they couldn't increase my email quota because of SOX-- I linked them to the text of the law and asked what section covered my email quota. Never heard back...

Not a SOX expert here but to take a stab at this, I would assume they are limiting you because they are archiving 100% of all corporate emails in an attempt to not get charged with destroying evidence in the case of a law suit. Many companies are doing this as an overreaction to SOX and the Enron/Tyco suits that were it's genesis.

Source: Google for "SOX email quota" and read a couple links :)
 
Thats great and all but has nothing to do with an internal wireless card.Not only that but where on Apples site does it show or say "includes USB key/device" ??

I call bunk on this rumor.

actually has a lot to do.

At this point its purely a software hindering 802.11n support. A USB key would allow that software to run.

Now I dont know about the validity of the rumor, but I can tell you how and why it could potentially work even though it seems quite an archaic solution.
 
With all of this wireless speed and Air Disk capacity, I hope they fix Aperture so you can back up over a network.
 
Perhaps this is the way Apple intends to keep the enabler off the torrent sites. The USB key is programmed to only enable a specific MAC address, the one you give them when you order...
 
To Panoz7

No I wasn't referring to you, there is another guy here who has no knowledge of the subject matter and seems intent on insisting his personal reasoning through the issue has some special validity, when it doesn't at all. This isn't a debate and if complicated accounting issues could be looked up on a website we wouldn't have leagues of highly educated accounting and MBA's trying to determine appropriate accounting treatments for various business issues. I am trying an educated perspective from a lot of familiarity with Apple's 10-K's and their analysis.

In an attempt to be somewhat defferential and inclusive here, I'll say that I see a significant difference in a small enhancement to iPod functionality versus the "n" speed networking upgrade. Was anyone else selling the iPod enhancement? What did it cost? Was there a market for getting that enhancement? No, Zero, No would be the answers. Was the feature valuable to consumers? Maybe. What was the feature worth? Who knows. Those questions and answers are all opposite of the same asked about the "n" upgrade we're discussing. Does that help point you in the direction of recognizing how the accounting treatment would be different? If it is different, then I can't tell you how Apple decided to charge a few dollars, but can you start to see how a fee for one versus the other might be reasonable and streamline accounting?

I don't think you were referring to me, but since I was responsible for the two finger click anecdote I guess I should explain anyway. I know you're trying to help us understand, and at least for me, these anecdotes / examples can help us understand.

So here's one more (and I'm providing this only because I'm curious and find this intriguing): Gapless playback on my iPod. My 5g iPod received a software update to enable gapless playback when the 5.5g iPod was released. This seems exactly the same to me as the N thing... it was a strongly desired feature and it is advertised clearly on apple's website. How is this different?

By the way, since this whole accounting thing is a little bit beyond me, how would apple determine that $4.99 is the appropriate amount for this service? If they charge too much isn't that just as bad (accounting wise) as charging too little?
 
1. Obvioulsly that needs to happen. You can't share music out of iTunes if iTunes isn't running. Just like if you have 2 Macs that are shaiing files and/or printers and that Mac isn't on, you can't access the files or the printer either. Its impossible for that not to happen. The only other way to do this is to not have it go through iTunes which Apple would never do.
Third party software can access the iTunes database (~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml) just fine without iTunes running. Elgato's EyeHome (which will die an unceremonious death with the release of AppleTV), AccessTunes and MyTunes RSS, both of which stream your iTunes over the internet, can all access the iTunes Library (playlists and all) from a host while iTunes is not running. I'm sure there are others as well.

Clearly it's possible, and Apple could obviously do it if they wanted. All that's needed is an iTunes daemon that runs in the background of the host computer, the prefs could be set from an "iTunes" tab in the "Sharing" preference pane at the system level. Maybe it's because there would be no consisent way to mirror this behavior in Windows??
 
iTunes and iPhoto Libraries compatibility with AirPort Disk

I really hope putting the iTunes and iPhoto Libraries on an "AirPort Disk" shared drive will work. I would like to update iTunes and iPhoto from multiple computers in my house. This would be the only reason I'd upgrade to an Airport Extreme.
 
Annoying!? Does anyone else think this is outrageous? If I owned a new Mac and I had to pay for a "feature" that was already a part of my computer I'd be pissed as hell. That is bull@#!&@. Maybe I'm missing part of the story here...


That's like buying a car only to later find out you had 800hp this whole time instead of the 400hp you bought it at, only to discover that get this extra 400hp (you know, the stuff you already paid for) is going to cost you extra. This is worse than DRM!

If you buy a BMW M5, you'll find it's artificially limited to 155mph. To get the full benefit of the engine, transmission, etc, you've paid for would require the installation of a 3rd party engine management chip, which will cost you $$ ;)
 
Just another person who hates SOX with a vengeance. I encounter it nearly every day at work because we have customers who are listed on Wall Street and the Canadian Stock Exchange. We need SOX authorisation just to do software updates or fix a problem on their servers! But then again, it's just they way they have interpreted SOX. That's what it's all about. If you interpret it like Nazis it gets bad, otherwise it's not so bad.
 
If you buy a BMW M5, you'll find it's artificially limited to 155mph. To get the full benefit of the engine, transmission, etc, you've paid for would require the installation of a 3rd party engine management chip, which will cost you $$ ;)
That is the best analogy I've seen on here yet. And it isn't only the BMW that has this... are we all going to demand these be removed by the auto manufacturers because they are crippling something that we paid for?

I'll say it again; one of the main reasons for this has got to be the fact that Apple doesn't want to have to handle all the calls stemming from incompatible draft-n hardware.
 
802.11n airport card/Powerbook G4

Sorry if this is a duplicate post but I don't have time right now to read 7 pages.

Does anyone know if 802.11n works with Powerbooks? I have a G4 Powerbook and I would like to buy the new airport extreme base station and buy a new airport 802.11n card.

Thanks
 
US$ 4.99 to unlock my N card?!

How much for UK users... Apple do rip us off like the iPod games. Thats a joke!!
 
It's no joke

Sarbanes Oxley (sp?) is going to force a LOT of companies to charge for software that used to be bundled. It's not a joke, so the story should be updated to not reflect the idea that this is something Apple is making up. They are not.
 
Very Astute

Apple doesn't have to charge anything. But they are more compelled to because beyond a simple low cost software patch they have to pay taxes based on the value of the upgrade that millions of people are enabling. So they charge enough to establish a defensible value and pay the taxes on it per person who upgrades. Apple could always eat the costs. If those costs were $100k maybe, sure. But at millions owed in taxes, why not pass that on to the consumer. Especially if we are getting so much more than $5 out of the new functionality.

All I know is any law that requires Apple to charge (against their will) for enabling a feature they have preinstalled should be changed.

IF that is the case.

Rocketman
 
All I know is any law that requires Apple to charge (against their will) for enabling a feature they have preinstalled should be changed.

IF that is the case.

Rocketman

Thats the thing Rocketman.

This new feature is NOT pre-installed.

Another theory for folks.

What if like folks are saying.iLife comes included with OS X Leopard due to tighter intergration?
How are they to help recover the cost?

Charge for the update to the .n cards.
 
Just another person who hates SOX with a vengeance. I encounter it nearly every day at work because we have customers who are listed on Wall Street and the Canadian Stock Exchange. We need SOX authorisation just to do software updates or fix a problem on their servers! But then again, it's just they way they have interpreted SOX. That's what it's all about. If you interpret it like Nazis it gets bad, otherwise it's not so bad.

With all due respect it is prosecutors who interpret it like NAZI's and lawyers have their own chat websites to share experiences. The result is this new layer of SOX crap, and that is exactly what it is.

Rocketman
 
Thats the thing Rocketman.

This new feature is NOT pre-installed.

Another theory for folks.

What if like folks are saying.iLife comes included with OS X Leopard due to tighter intergration?
How are they to help recover the cost?

Charge for the update to the .n cards.

I agree, the firmware and possibly even part of the software is not installed, but the hardware is, and I have updated both firmware and software without fees in the past. This particuar case is the exception. The law has changed. Apple has not.

Rocketman
 
OReillynet.com notes that the quietly updated Airport Extreme Basestation incorporates a new feature called Airport Disk:
This was what Apple announced last week, and why I put an order in for one. Not sure why it is being considered "news" now.
 
I think they're using the law to their advantage in this case :-\

I've never ever heard of this before.
 
Thats the thing Rocketman.

This new feature is NOT pre-installed.

Another theory for folks.

What if like folks are saying.iLife comes included with OS X Leopard due to tighter intergration?
How are they to help recover the cost?

Charge for the update to the .n cards.

I disagree. The new feature IS pre-installed. It is just disabled. Otherwise, you would need new hardware. Everyone who bought a C2D machine paid for an 11.n card. It's built into the cost of the hardware.

As for the software driver to "uncripple" it, as I keep pointing out, it's no different than the drivers we get in Software Update, the security patches, the upgraded functionality for the OS and software (e.g. iTunes, QuickTime).

in summary, I'm happy on the one hand that the cost is only $5 rather than having to buy a new card. On the other hand, it's ******** that we're being asked to pay period.
 
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