AirTags Arriving Early to Some Customers

I love that apple made an interactive logo replacement for their sticker they used to include in the box. Now, you can pay 30 dollars for something that you used to get for free in the box. Kind of sounds like the charger…
 
My 4 pack are arriving tomorrow.

I didn't dig the engraving and didn't even check if I could get all 4 engraved differently or if they only let you have one engraving option.

Personally I might print some water transfers to stick to the white sides to personalise and then spray lacquer them protect it.
 
locksmack said:
I would suggest looking into how they work a bit closer.

1. Randoms won't receive notifications if the AirTag owner is currently with the AirTag.
2. In the event an AirTag is separated from it's owner in public (e.g. someone leaves their bag on a train), it still doesn't notify random people on the train. The anti-stalking feature that alerts someone of an unwanted airtag only alerts them when they arrive at a place of interest (like their home) as defined in their iPhone settings with the airtag in tow.
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OK great. That addresses some concerns. I could have done without the snarky suggestion to look more closely into it. It's a product that got released less than a week ago. I have put in some due diligence reading about it and asked a question that began with a "Does…?"

It's great for the genuine use cases of locating lost items, but how much new authority is having global tracking going to provide to law enforcement? Does anyone care about this concept anymore? This is the type of hidden use case that Snowden essentially sacrificed his life to expose. If Apple can locate the owner of the tag, then they know the location history of the tag—along with the location history of all of the devices that have ever gotten near it—and so it can effectively serves as a device ID tracker for any phone that's ever gotten near it. Is that information stored? Do they care to tell us if it is? If you don't hate that concept, you've lost your way as far as I'm concerned.
 
mazz0 said:
Who mentioned theft? They don't support tracking a stolen anything. They would still be perfectly capable of helping you find a lost car though.

That said, someone else said Maps' built in car locating feature only works if your phone's connected to the over bluetooth. Is this true? I thought they used motion data to work out when you were driving and stored the place you stopped? Might be thinking of something else though.


Wrong.

Product A has some pros and some cons. Product B has some pros and some cons. It's not silly to complain about the cons in either product, even if it's your preferred product on the whole. Especially when it's a really stupid con like this, which is either a very cynical money-grubbing move or the epitome of style-over-substance.
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This makes me laugh. You really think that Apple's "not supporting" a particular type of car theft tracking is going to quell a warrant or subpoena duces tecum of any variety? Point blank, if they have access to the owner's information, they can be compelled to provide that information.
 
jtrenthacker said:
Have some type of hole to use for attachment for starters. I’m sure that was left out of the design on purpose so they could sell accessories.
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Yeah, I agree. I kind of like the simplicity of the circle puck. I'm sure they did some with the hole for attchemnet as well during research and development of the product.
 
Aeronauts said:
Maybe my OP was a bit over the top but I am frustrated that Apple are wasting time on luggage tags when there are so many far more important products they could be working on.
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Just because they are producing AirTags and accessories, that doesn't mean that they aren't working on other things at the same time. Apple has enough people to multitask projects in different departments.
 
Apple_Robert said:
Just because they are producing AirTags and accessories, that doesn't mean that they aren't working on other things at the same time. Apple has enough people to multitask projects in different departments.
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You would think so but where are all the other products to prove it? How many genuinely new products have they launched in the past few years?
 
salz4life said:
my wallet was one of the main things I wanted to use these for. That’s disappointing to hear. I guess I will wait to see if they come up with a wallet solution.
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Yeah the wallet fit isnt good with my normal leather wallet. I tend to put it in my back pocket and when sitting down I heard it creak. Checked it and the stainless still cap came off. Yikes. Also as I said before these are scratch magnets. Only a day in my wallet and it has micro scratches. The material used is definitely a con, looked great when I first unboxed them.

Because the cap isn’t flush I wonder how well these will hold up hanging off luggage, even in their holder. The way luggage is thrown around and stacked the durability of this device is questionable. Especially since me sitting down with it in my wallet caused the cap to either pop or twist off.

While the functionality of the device is excellent I’m not so sure about the material and form factor. Time will tell.
 
Trenches said:
This makes me laugh. You really think that Apple's "not supporting" a particular type of car theft tracking is going to quell a warrant or subpoena duces tecum of any variety? Point blank, if they have access to the owner's information, they can be compelled to provide that information.
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Lol
 
Unregistered 4U said:
Yes. I’ve found that you can drill through most things fairly easily as long as you’ve got the proper bit. The AirTags don’t look it they’d be too difficult to drill through.
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I'd like to take a drill and drill down to the core reason so many here (already have) an obsession with treating the AirTags as $29 works of art that aren't to show wear in any way. I am guessing I am going to need a diamond drill bit for the task.
 
Trenches said:
OK great. That addresses some concerns. I could have done without the snarky suggestion to look more closely into it. It's a product that got released less than a week ago. I have put in some due diligence reading about it and asked a question that began with a "Does…?"

It's great for the genuine use cases of locating lost items, but how much new authority is having global tracking going to provide to law enforcement? Does anyone care about this concept anymore? This is the type of hidden use case that Snowden essentially sacrificed his life to expose. If Apple can locate the owner of the tag, then they know the location history of the tag—along with the location history of all of the devices that have ever gotten near it—and so it can effectively serves as a device ID tracker for any phone that's ever gotten near it. Is that information stored? Do they care to tell us if it is? If you don't hate that concept, you've lost your way as far as I'm concerned.
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To be fair, I was responding to what appeared to be an uninformed rant. I'm glad I could provide some clarity for you.

Law enforcement have been using trackers for years. AirTags don't change this.

Apple have gone to a lot of effort to highlight that they do not have access to the location data of an AirTag - this is only available to the owner. I get your point - we have to believe that Apple are telling the truth, but history has shown that Apple is one of the few companies that does seem to care about user privacy. At the end of the day, AirTags aren't changing the landscape much at all. Similar trackers (Tile) have existed for years, as well as more sophisticated trackers that use GPS and have literally 0 anti-stalking features.
 
Ninja Dom said:
Yes they do. When you first connect the AirTag to your iPhone, the setup process has you choose what item the AirTag is gonna be attached to. From a pre-determined list.
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There is also a “Custom” entry in the list where you can enter whatever you want. I’m naming one of mine “My Car”. Totally acceptable.
 
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