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But the ten hottest years are all in the last 15.

The earth has gone through it's ice age cycle nearly five times. AFAIK no humans were there to cause those ice to melt. Even to this day, scientist can't accurately say exactly how much of human activity is causing global warming. Tucker Carlson asked this question to Phony Scientist Bill Nye the fascist guy and he couldn't answer. Liberal "intellectuals".

And the Chinese government is certainly on board. And they are the most competent regime around.

It's so bad the people in beijing has to wear gas masks to live. If this one party dictatorship is your idea of competent regime which is the largest user of coal in the world is your idea of the "most competent regime around", then I'd say you're beyond reasoning. Liberalism has gotten to your ability to think clearly.

How do you know that isn't true?

That's as silly as asking, "How do you know there's no God?". The burden of proof is on the person who's making the positive claim. Liberalism has a become a religion.

What do you mean?

It's not that hard. Don't expect to spoonfeed you every sentence.
 
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The earth has gone through it's ice age cycle nearly five times. AFAIK no humans were there to cause those ice to melt. Even to this day, scientist can't accurately say exactly how much of human activity is causing global warming. Tucker Carlson asked this question to Phony Scientist Bill Nye the fascist guy and he couldn't answer. Liberal "intellectuals".

I don't know what on earth you are on about...

It's so bad the people in beijing has to wear gas masks to live. If this one party dictatorship is your idea of competent regime which is the largest user of coal in the world is your idea of the "most competent regime around", then I'd say you're beyond reasoning. Liberalism has gotten to your ability to think clearly.

Oh noes, not gas masks :eek:. The gas masks prove they are incompetent, not the 6%+ YoY economic growth.

That's as silly as asking, "How do you know there's no God?". The burden of proof is on the person who's making the positive claim. Liberalism has a become a religion

Presumably the scientists did prove it though...
 
I don't know what on earth you are on about...

The Planet earth. You know the one you're pretending to not know because it goes against your liberal propaganda narrative...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/earth/water_and_ice/ice_age

Oh noes, not gas masks :eek:. The gas masks prove they are incompetent, not the 6%+ YoY economic growth.

When your citizens have to wear mask to survive in it's capital, you're not doing things right. Or maybe my standards aren't as low as liberals. As for YoY growth, we can thank George dumbo Bush, his disastrous wars and Hussein Obummer and his leading from behind policies for that. Thank goodness Trump is there to fix this mess. We dodged a fatal bullet.

Presumably the scientists did prove it though...

Funny, I didn't see any... evidence.. just like the "muh russia" story. Maybe you could provide some peer review scientific papers and we can put all this to rest once and for all.
 
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Ivanka isn't running around shoving Climate change garbage down people throats though like Al and his buddies. They can fly commercial. Drive electric cars. Not live in giant mansions that suck up more power then entire neighborhoods. Stuff like that. As soon as the climate change profiteers hand over their "stuff" I'll play the game too. Until then....get off my back and suck it. I'm not buying into the BS. Sorry.
If climate activists aren't walking the walk, that makes them hypocrites but it doesn't make climate change "BS" just because you want it to be. The truth really is inconvenient.
 
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If climate activists aren't walking the walk, that makes them hypocrites but it doesn't make climate change "BS" just because you want it to be. The truth really is inconvenient.

Its BS. Or, more importantly, we have very little to do with it. And pretty much all of the climate change pimps are hypocrites. Like Al Gore. He profits from it and couldnt care less about the planet.
 
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Its BS. Or, more importantly, we have very little to do with it. And pretty much all of the climate change pimps are hypocrites. Like Al Gore. He profits from it and couldnt care less about the planet.
Whew! I feel so much better. I've read a lot of climate science in peer reviewed publications, seen some of the data behind the Keeling curve, and have graduate education in chemistry, but after searching high and low I finally found the answer from s2mikey and his ilk: IT'S BS!! I'm so grateful I get my cutting edge science from MacRumors.com! One stop shopping. This is great.
 
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What, like Ivanka did and got the flight delayed?
If that's the prism that you view it, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry that you think that when a person sits in a seat, and others make an obscene scene about her simply occupying the seat makes the person sitting there the problem.

I have a similar situation at work. I have a sharps container on my desk, and every so often, I get some person making a fuss about the fact that it is open. Mind you, the sharps container, left untouched will NEVER spill its contents, not attack anyone. I get all kinds of "worst case scenarios" from these people, but none of them will explain to me how to re-open it after it is put in its closed position.

Irrational people will act irrationally, and that's on them, not the object of their irrationality.

(As a commentary on these people, I wasn't really a big Trump supporter on November 8, 2016, but the riots and disgusting actions of people that are against him have made me quite a fan. Their tears and rage are like 5 hour energy to me.)
 
I bet he flew in on his planet destroying jet...
[doublepost=1492437205][/doublepost]How can we have climate optimism, didn't we already pass the point of no return last year?

Trying to minimize someone's well studied climate opinion because they use a common form of transportation is a reason to dismiss the warming?

Link please on the latter statement.
 
Trying to minimize someone's well studied climate opinion because they use a common form of transportation is a reason to dismiss the warming?

Link please on the latter statement.
I wouldn’t exactly call a private jet “a common form of transportation”.
 
I wouldn’t exactly call a private jet “a common form of transportation”.

Jet airplanes are common, and using them or not has no impact on the validity of scientific observation. I guess if Gore would travel by horseback, then he would be better regarded by climate change deniers? ;) And I'm willing to bet that large commercial aircraft and their numbers has a proportionally larger impact on the environment than private jets do.
 
Jet airplanes are common, and using them or not has no impact on the validity of scientific observation. I guess if Gore would travel by horseback, then he would be better regarded by climate change deniers? ;) And I'm willing to bet that large commercial aircraft and their numbers has a proportionally larger impact on the environment than private jets do.

Here's my thoughts on this FWIW. Al Gore has been saying that climate change is the biggest threat to mankind for years. I don't disagree with this but I do have a problem with him and it's not a shoot the messenger type thing. My problem is if climate change is so dangerous and if we have to act so quickly to prevent tragedy, someone like him should be doing everything in his power to 1. change people's minds and 2. help stop climate change. Having huge houses and traveling by private jet does not help at all to do either one of these things.
 
Private jets has horrible impact for environment when there are travelling only couple of persons. And it start already when the airplane is waiting on the ground. How much ethylene glycol is used just to bring one person from point a to b? (Ethylene or propylene glycol has serious environmental issues.) Not to mention the ground vehicles needed for a one person to get to the sky. If the small jet needs to do an extra landing, it will consume even more. Airplanes also emits all pollutant straight to the sky (to the upper atmosphere causing more harm).

If a person or couple is using a private jet, it will emits few times to ten times more just CO2 (a small jet - no extra landing needed). If you then consider all emission for that trip (including ground vehicles, other chemicals needed etc) it gets even worse.
 
Whew! I feel so much better. I've read a lot of climate science in peer reviewed publications, seen some of the data behind the Keeling curve, and have graduate education in chemistry, but after searching high and low I finally found the answer from s2mikey and his ilk: IT'S BS!! I'm so grateful I get my cutting edge science from MacRumors.com! One stop shopping. This is great.

Im here to help, brother. :)
 
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