All 2017 iPhone Models Said to Include Standard 5W USB-A Adapter, With Wireless Charger Sold Separately

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Well-regarded KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo this morning released a note for investors in which he made 10 predictions related to the three iPhones slated for release in 2017, including the elimination of Touch ID in the "iPhone 8."

    We've now gotten our hands on Kuo's full note, and it includes several additional details that were not covered in our original post.


    First and foremost, on the topic of Touch ID, Kuo's note clearly says the iPhone 8 will not support fingerprint recognition, a prediction some MacRumors readers thought was ambiguous in the first post based on the included wording. Direct from the note:
    Kuo's claim has since been backed up by Bloomberg in a report suggesting Touch ID will be replaced by advanced facial recognition technology in the iPhone 8, lending more credence to Kuo's prediction.

    A second tidbit suggests the iPhone 8 and its companion devices, the "iPhone 7s" and the "iPhone 7s Plus" will all adopt glass bodies with metal frames to facilitate WPC-standard wireless charging functionality. WPC-standard refers to the Wireless Power Consortium, which supports the Qi wireless charging functionality built into many Android devices.

    According to Kuo, wireless charging will be enabled through an optional accessory that will be purchased alongside the new iPhones -- it won't be a default feature available out of the box. Qi wireless charging is in line with rumors that have predicted the iPhone 8 will support inductive charging rather than a true wireless charging feature.

    An example of a Qi wireless charging solution​

    Kuo also believes that while the iPhone 8 will include an embedded USB-C power delivery IC for higher charging efficiency, it will continue to ship with the same 5W power adapter equipped with a USB-A port that's included with iPhones today. A USB-A to Lightning cable will also be included as a standard accessory.

    That deviates from a prediction made by Barclays analyst Blayne Curtis, who last week said the iPhone 8 would come bundled with a 10W power adapter with a USB-C connector.

    Kuo's final prediction has to do with the RAM in the three new iPhone models. The first post said that the 4.7-inch iPhone 7s would include 2GB RAM while the 5.8-inch OLED iPhone 8 and 5.5-inch iPhone 7s would include 3GB RAM, but what was left out is that he also believes the DRAM transfer speed of the three new models will be faster than the iPhone 7 by 10 to 15 percent for better AR performance.

    The rest of what Kuo had to say is available in the post we shared this morning, covering predictions like limited color options, 3D sensing for facial recognition, 64 and 256GB storage options, an improved speaker system, and possible supply shortages.

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  2. CerebralX macrumors 6502


    Jun 28, 2013
    Looking for a place of freedom and rationality
    This is not exactly news. All phone companies sell their wireless chargers separately
  3. jameswilby macrumors newbie

    Nov 20, 2016
  4. jclardy macrumors 68040


    Oct 6, 2008
    Wow, today's iPhone news just gets worse and worse. The wireless adapter being separate is expected...but why include the crappy 5w charger when we have fast charging...
  5. DhobiWanKenobi macrumors member


    Feb 7, 2017
    So many conflicting stories, will be interesting to see what is actually released.
  6. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

    Andres Cantu

    May 31, 2015
    Rio Grande Valley in South Texas
  7. newyorksole macrumors 68040

    Apr 2, 2008
    New York.
    I truly cannot picture these new iPhones not having Touch ID.

    The thing is, whatever iPhones are coming out this year have already been finalized. It's way too close to September for Apple to be deciding on features...

    I wish we knew for sure. I think their iris/facial recognition will be superb though.
  8. RealKrS macrumors regular

    Sep 27, 2007
    So I can take the gloves off at night, and put on a balaclava instead?
  9. BornAgainMac macrumors 603


    Feb 4, 2004
    Florida Resident
    Brand new user looks at the manual and it says "Wireless charging and Lighting port".
  10. Tinototem macrumors regular

    Sep 28, 2010
    If the new iPhone does not bring us real wireless and charging and instead brings Qi charging this will be a huge disappointment, that means Apple is several years behind without any kind of improvements and there were no reason at all to not provide Qi charging for the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 7.
  11. leesweet macrumors 65816


    Feb 1, 2009
    Northern Virginia, USA
    One issue with the 'faceID' (as opposed to touchID) is that if the phone is in a mount or otherwise not in your hand, you have to then have it actually facing you or however it needs to 'capture your image'. A finger is much more maneuverable that your face, especially if driving, etc., or even as a passenger. I really can't see such a quick transition to ONLY 'faceID'. An option, maybe. Only? Color me still suspicious.
  12. subjonas macrumors 68000

    Feb 10, 2014
    Looking forward to the contact charging mounts and docks to come. For iPads too.
  13. Maschil macrumors 6502a


    Jun 19, 2011
  14. soanis macrumors regular


    Apr 15, 2013
  15. Wowereit macrumors 6502a

    Feb 1, 2016
    Yeah, I truly want another one of those 4$ chargers.
  16. LiveM macrumors 65816


    Oct 30, 2015
  17. cristianvaldez macrumors member

    Sep 25, 2015
    Maybe it will be a sensor where the front camera is, that will scan your fingerprint without touching it, just placing it over the sensor. THAT would be very welcomed.
  18. d4zza macrumors member

    Oct 12, 2011
    Still not reading anything to make me swap out my 6S.

    Whilst I understand why facial recognition might replace the TouchID technically, I can't say I would prefer it. I'm very happy with TouchID.
  19. Dave1999 macrumors newbie

    Jun 22, 2017
    What is it that the iPhone rumors always take a bitter turn when we get closer? :(
  20. Markoth, Jul 3, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2017

    Markoth macrumors 6502


    Oct 1, 2015
    Behind You
    That's unfortunate. True wireless charging is almost here. Apple would be smart to go right for the gold, rather than taking a brief detour through this only marginally useful tech. If it has to be touching something, it's not much different from plugging it in.
  21. WiseAJ macrumors 6502


    Sep 8, 2009
    No touch ID. No Sale. Eliminating it would be a deal breaker for me.
  22. Naraxus macrumors 6502a


    Oct 13, 2016
    Of course it will be an "optional" accessory that'll cost $20-$30.

    Anything Apple can do to further nickle and dime its customers....
  23. Piggie macrumors G3


    Feb 23, 2010
    But on a $1000 phone?
  24. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2014
    known but velocity indeterminate
    I don't like facial recognition as a replacement for Touch ID. I'd have been fine with it being launched alongside it and optional but not instead of.

    Edit: as I said in the last thread, I hope this is an instance of Ming getting it wrong.

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