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Maybe I read the article wrong...someone clear it up for me...
I just gave Apple $3000+ for the latest MacBook Pro. If I buy the 7s or 8, it won't be compatible with the MacBook Pro without a separate cable or adapter? Next you're probably gonna tell me there's no headphone jack, right?
 
From Late 2009 (8 years ago)....

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my iphone 7 plus already does Qi wireless charging i don't no why its taking apple to do wireless charging.all you have to do is buy a Qi wireless receiver and plug it in and make sure that you find a case that thin enough so that the receiver and the Qi wireless stand can pick it up.
 
my iphone 7 plus already does Qi wireless charging i don't no why its taking apple to do wireless charging.all you have to do is buy a Qi wireless receiver and plug it in and make sure that you find a case that thin enough so that the receiver and the Qi wireless stand can pick it up.

well my iPhone 6S already has no bezels i don't no why its taking apple to do that. All you have to do is chop off the bezels with an axe.


seriously though - metal backs on current designs don't work well with Qi type chargers, plus it adds a small amount of thickness so they've probably avoided it until now.
 
If they implement it right, faceID will be an amazing addition. I'm not sold on them fully replacing touchID, but it could happen. I still think the possibility exists for OLED fingerprint or rear sensor on the Apple logo.

Now, onto the "3" iPhone rumor. Who wants to place bets that the 7s and 7s Plus, if existent, are available to ship in October while the "8" or "Pro" or "Anniversary" one wouldn't start rolling until well after Christmas? Much like the recent iMac/iMac Pro announcement, they could potentially cut a phone lifecycle into two- people will buy the 7s, then in Q1 or early Q2 buy the 8...
 
Has no one thought about touchID being placed on the back of the phone like the galaxy? Which personally I think I would hate, but I might prefer it to only using facial recognition/iris scanning.
 
Has no one thought about touchID being placed on the back of the phone like the galaxy? Which personally I think I would hate, but I might prefer it to only using facial recognition/iris scanning.

I've thought about it and would hate it too. I'm still pissed they moved the sleep/wake button to the side where I always press it accidentally when reaching for the volume buttons.
 
I tried exactly this with Windows Hello on my Surface Book. Windows Hello can definitely distinguish a picture of myself vs. my actual face.

That's good to know. What about a 3D model of your face? Would celebrities who have waxworks in Madame Tussauds be vulnerable to phone hacking?
 
Banks have invested nothing in TouchID, they have no way of knowing wether you use it or not. It's local authentication ONLY that does not leave your phone.

They allow you to pay with unprotected contactless plastic, why would they care about local Apple Pay authentication.

This shows you know nothing about this topic. It's not about POS.

Banks all over the world (along with other app developers) have invested heavily in Touch ID app development to allow users to log in to view their accounts on their iPhone.

Touch ID played a major part in me changing banks, along with Apple pay. I went with a bank who offered both Apple Pay and Touch ID login to access my account.

It has taken a while to get a decent number of popular apps (not just banks) to get on board with Touch ID so that we don't have to use passwords or remember special codes.

If Apple removes Touch ID then all apps that use it are back to square one. Who knows if or when they will introduce Face ID or whatever it's going to be called.
 
This shows you know nothing about this topic. It's not about POS.

Banks all over the world (along with other app developers) have invested heavily in Touch ID app development to allow users to log in to view their accounts on their iPhone.

Touch ID played a major part in me changing banks, along with Apple pay. I went with a bank who offered both Apple Pay and Touch ID login to access my account.

It has taken a while to get a decent number of popular apps (not just banks) to get on board with Touch ID so that we don't have to use passwords or remember special codes.

If Apple removes Touch ID then all apps that use it are back to square one. Who knows if or when they will introduce Face ID or whatever it's going to be called.

Apple could provide the same API to access TouchID or FaceID and it could be almost transparent to the app.
The question is: are banks willing to consider face ID secure enough to let users access their accounts?
 
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If the rumors are true and Touch ID is gone, I wonder what spin word Phil will have for this particular move. "Courage" is so last year. If he wants to keep with a Wizard of Oz theme I suppose he can say "Heart".

Generally you don't make comments like these, so that shocks me a little bit to see the snark attitude.

But in any case, what I appreciate about Apple, is they're not afraid to make the moves that nobody else will. But in the midst of all these rumors and speculation, in the end game, they have everything figured out that we don't understand or fully know. Not Everybody will condone what Apple does with alterior motive's when it comes to removing or replacing a feature with something else (Which I have observed your disdain for the removal of the 3.5 Jack). But somehow it always seems to fit in translation (Airpods for example), which I think makes the product better over time, we just don't see it at this current point until September arrives. But I understand that not everybody agrees.
 
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They allow you to pay with unprotected contactless plastic, why would they care about local Apple Pay authentication.

"Unprotected contactless plastic" is more secure than using Chip & PIN for small transactions.
 
Generally you don't make comments like these, so that shocks me a little bit to see the snark attitude.

But in any case, what I appreciate about Apple, is they're not afraid to make the moves that nobody else will. But in the midst of all these rumors and speculation, in the end game, they have everything figured out that we don't understand or fully know. Not Everybody will condone what Apple does with alterior motive's when it comes to removing or replacing a feature with something else (Which I have observed your disdain for the removal of the 3.5 Jack). But somehow it always seems to fit in translation (Airpods for example), which I think makes the product better over time, we just don't see it at this current point until September arrives. But I understand that not everybody agrees.
When it comes to Phil Schiller, I have an endless supply of snark to match his. I have no opinion on him as a human being in his private life, as it is not my place to form one, nor on his ability to carry out his day to day job, which he apparently does very well, judging from Apple's success.

Unfortunately, he almost never fails to get my hackles up when he speaks publicly. Snark toward some of his comments is one of the more polite responses I can express publicly and still remain a lady. I think a man of his experience, education, stature and pay grade could and should express Apple's position and decisions with more grace, forethought, and real wit than his meager efforts tend to demonstrate.

There are times I wonder if he gulps down his coffee, runs over to the keynote, and decides to wing it.
 
Although this is the first new iPhone design that I didn't like from the get-go, it's really starting to grow on me. I'm starting not to mind that top bezel, even if there isn't a notification strip to even it out.
 
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Oh the memories! It's too bad that they never really invested in their hardware, because the OS was actually quite nice. Could have easily been a fourth player in the smartphone market. The Palm Pre was notorious for hardware issues throughout its short life.
 
People are too pessimistic. Recall: there were finger print scanners before Apple put them on the iPhone, but they were junk. What Apple did was make it just work. Same with facial recognition: it's junk now. Perhaps again Apple can make this technology just work.

There's always the option of saying "you're doing it wrong". You shouldn't want to unlock your phone while walking, biking, driving or other forms of moving. You should keep the phone in your pocket and only use it through Siri although Siri only understands 10% of what you say to it. Yay, it's such pleasure!

Of course you could keep the screen on at all times, but knowing the huge batteries Apple puts in it's phones that'd drop the battery life to ~30 min.

There's no way to lose here! Shut up and take my money!
 
People are too pessimistic. Recall: there were finger print scanners before Apple put them on the iPhone, but they were junk. What Apple did was make it just work.

Every other company had been sharing AuthenTec as a common fingerprint sensor supplier since around 1999. So normally they all had access to the same advances.

After AuthenTec demoed what Apple later called TouchId, to several major companies, Apple bought the company to prevent anyone else from continuing to have access to their tech.

Same with facial recognition: it's junk now. Perhaps again Apple can make this technology just work.

Judging from the reviews of Microsoft's version, facial recognition already "just works".

Apple's problem is more like making it work only when you want it to :)
 



Well-regarded KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo this morning released a note for investors in which he made 10 predictions related to the three iPhones slated for release in 2017, including the elimination of Touch ID in the "iPhone 8."

We've now gotten our hands on Kuo's full note, and it includes several additional details that were not covered in our original post.

First and foremost, on the topic of Touch ID, Kuo's note clearly says the iPhone 8 will not support fingerprint recognition, a prediction some MacRumors readers thought was ambiguous in the first post based on the included wording. Direct from the note:Kuo's claim has since been backed up by Bloomberg in a report suggesting Touch ID will be replaced by advanced facial recognition technology in the iPhone 8, lending more credence to Kuo's prediction.

A second tidbit suggests the iPhone 8 and its companion devices, the "iPhone 7s" and the "iPhone 7s Plus" will all adopt glass bodies with metal frames to facilitate WPC-standard wireless charging functionality. WPC-standard refers to the Wireless Power Consortium, which supports the Qi wireless charging functionality built into many Android devices.

According to Kuo, wireless charging will be enabled through an optional accessory that will be purchased alongside the new iPhones -- it won't be a default feature available out of the box. Qi wireless charging is in line with rumors that have predicted the iPhone 8 will support inductive charging rather than a true wireless charging feature.

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An example of a Qi wireless charging solution
Kuo also believes that while the iPhone 8 will include an embedded USB-C power delivery IC for higher charging efficiency, it will continue to ship with the same 5W power adapter equipped with a USB-A port that's included with iPhones today. A USB-A to Lightning cable will also be included as a standard accessory.

That deviates from a prediction made by Barclays analyst Blayne Curtis, who last week said the iPhone 8 would come bundled with a 10W power adapter with a USB-C connector.

Kuo's final prediction has to do with the RAM in the three new iPhone models. The first post said that the 4.7-inch iPhone 7s would include 2GB RAM while the 5.8-inch OLED iPhone 8 and 5.5-inch iPhone 7s would include 3GB RAM, but what was left out is that he also believes the DRAM transfer speed of the three new models will be faster than the iPhone 7 by 10 to 15 percent for better AR performance.

The rest of what Kuo had to say is available in the post we shared this morning, covering predictions like limited color options, 3D sensing for facial recognition, 64 and 256GB storage options, an improved speaker system, and possible supply shortages.

Article Link: All 2017 iPhone Models Said to Include Standard 5W USB-A Adapter, With Wireless Charger Sold Separately
[doublepost=1499888350][/doublepost]No fingerprint scanner is a 100% deal breaker for me. I will get the 7S if that's the case. It will look so bad if they remove that feature from the 8 only to add it back to the 8S a year later. If you want to have options and implement facial recognition to go along with touch ID, that's fine. Do not remove touch ID. Will not buy.
[doublepost=1499888656][/doublepost]You can't even kind of tell me a finger is harder than having to hold the phone up to your face. Absolutely not. I use it way too often for 3rd party finance apps, itunes purchases etc. I'm not holding my phone up to my face. Horse crap.
 
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