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All 2017 iPhone Models Said to Include Standard 5W USB-A Adapter, With Wireless Charger Sold Separately

leesweet said:
One issue with the 'faceID' (as opposed to touchID) is that if the phone is in a mount or otherwise not in your hand, you have to then have it actually facing you or however it needs to 'capture your image'. A finger is much more maneuverable that your face, especially if driving, etc., or even as a passenger. I really can't see such a quick transition to ONLY 'faceID'. An option, maybe. Only? Color me still suspicious.
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According to the rumors in the articles aleady posted here, you're completely wrong. It is said to work from angles such as laying flat on a table.
 
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jclardy said:
Wow, today's iPhone news just gets worse and worse. The wireless adapter being separate is expected...but why include the crappy 5w charger when we have fast charging...
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Because it's..... Apple??

Of course they're going to offer things for you to buy extra... why expect them to be generous with their history of low storage; short, low quality charging cables; and..... wait, was going to give up... and their 5gb free cloud storage even for 128gb devices.
 
flat five said:
wait.
then what?
your phone is unlocked without taking your eyes off the road.. got it.
then you use it without looking ?
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Once it is unlocked I can glance at it to get speed, heart rate, etc - just as a motorist can glance at their instrument panel while driving. Imagine if they had to stare at it for a second or two while it unlocked using facial recognition.
 
jon3543 said:
It is kinda binary. I think Energous is a pipe dream, though what you've described would be a sensible approach.

On another subject, is there any advantage to the USB-C chip inside the phone absent a USB-C charger? I'm just trying to understand what's going to be new and compelling in these phones, with the 8 slated to be much more expensive than usual. The OLED screen seems about the only thing. What's Tim Cook going to say, "These phones are able to charge faster and/or wirelessly - IF you spend an extra $75-$125 or whatever to enable it. But don't feel too bad, you'll get to enjoy the beautiful glass housing for free! (Cue Jony Ive video.)" Lame.
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I wish they would make it USB c on both ends. It's already a hassle that my iPhone is the only device I regularly carry that needs a separate cable to the rest, and carrying lightning to USB c sorta defeats that convinience factor.

I want to charge all my devices with 1 type c cable/charger.
 
Cycling Asia said:
Once it is unlocked I can glance at it to get speed, heart rate, etc - just as a motorist can glance at their instrument panel while driving. Imagine if they had to stare at it for a second or two while it unlocked using facial recognition.
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how do you know how long you'll have to stare at it for recognition?

also, as far as i can gather, it's 3D facial recognition.. not 2D..
like, it can (basically) measure the distance from your lip to nose to tell if it's you.. you probably don't even have to look at it if you don't want.

3D facial recognition will be like a fingerprint scanner.. except you don't have to put your finger real close to the sensor in order for it to get a 3D read.. it can read the dimensions which are further away from the sensor.
 
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Bart Kela said:
Apple Pay does not require Touch ID. You can use a passcode to authenticate the secure payment token for Apple Pay. Here's an Apple support document that mentions this:

"When you pay using Apple Pay in stores
Paying in stores that accept contactless payments with Apple Pay uses Near Field Communication (NFC) technology between your device and the payment terminal. NFC is an industry-standard contactless technology designed to work only across short distances. If your iPhone is on and it detects an NFC field, it will present you with your default card. To send your payment information, you must authenticate using Touch ID or your passcode. No payment information is sent without your authentication. On Apple Watch, you must double-click the side button when the device is unlocked to activate your default card for payment.

After you use Touch ID or enter your passcode on iPhone, or double-click the side button on Apple Watch at a payment terminal, the Secure Element provides your Device Account Number and a transaction-specific dynamic security code. This information is sent along with additional information needed to complete the transaction to the store’s point of sale terminal. Neither Apple nor your device sends your credit, debit, or prepaid card number. Before they approve the payment, your bank or payment network can verify your payment information by checking the dynamic security code to make sure it’s unique and that it’s tied to your device."​

Facial recognition would simply be another authentication method, an option to the others mentioned above (Touch ID, passcode, Apple Watch side button double-click). The passcode is similar in authentication to the four-digit PIN one would use for a physical debit card.

Touch ID is an authentication method. Apple Pay is a payment system. The two can work together (and often do for many who use Apple products) but they are not dependent on each other to function.
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Thanks for this pointless lecture. Now try explaining this long winded statement to the banks and app makers who have invested heavily in Touch ID development. You are clearly missing the point completely, invested only in your self righteous rhetoric.
 
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Wireless charging that requires contact is less functional than a cord. The appeal mystifies me but it will be a checkbox Apple can brag about.
 
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apolloa said:
Hmm.. well standard wireless charging will be so long as it also supports all the existing standard wireless chargers, and this being Apple I'll be surprised if it does.
I don't get these storage capacity rumours though, 64gb and 256gb???? What about 128gb?? Very strange, and as for dumping Touch ID, hmm well not sure about that one I have to say.
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64gb and 256gb? why? easy upsell - on 18-24 monthly fee that would like $4-$6 dollars - Tim is a ASP genius
 
jimbobb24 said:
Wireless charging that requires contact is less functional than a cord. The appeal mystifies me but it will be a checkbox Apple can brag about.
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I don't care about checkboxes. I would never use Wireless if it means just moving the cord somewhere else.
 
CTHarrryH said:
You forget that when the iPhone came out Steve Jobs had to lower the price to get sales to take off - it isn't Tim Cook
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When the first iPhone shipped it was cutting edge technology that was expect to sell to a very small market. Almost a public beta of the future iPhones. The iPhone originally was was too expensive, that is why Apple had to drop the price so soon. Since the iPhone 3G, the iPhone has been US$649 (US$199 subsidised) for the cheapest new model, all the the things I mentioned help to increase ASP while keeping same starting price.
 
GadgetBen said:
Thanks for this pointless lecture. Now try explaining this long winded statement to the banks and app makers who have invested heavily in Touch ID development. You are clearly missing the point completely, invested only in your self righteous rhetoric.
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Banks have invested nothing in TouchID, they have no way of knowing wether you use it or not. It's local authentication ONLY that does not leave your phone.

They allow you to pay with unprotected contactless plastic, why would they care about local Apple Pay authentication.
 
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This "wireless" charging business is a sham. It not only effectively anchors your phone to a stationary point, but only hinders you from using it will charging. What about people who charge their phone overnight? I guess you won't be charging it while using your iPhone in bed. As for the faceID, this prediction is really out there. What about unlocking your phone in a dark room like in bed or in a theatre? So far, from what I read, this phone is really shaping up to be an iPhone 7S, but just not in a good way.
 
It will be a shame if Apple isn't able to release a true wireless charging solution. But given the number of vehicles offering wireless device charging and places like Starbucks moving to implement more wireless charge pads, it will be a step in the right direction, even if it's just stopgap solution until contactless wireless charging can be realized.
 
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