It will eventually die out, but many devices (like flash drives) still require it.
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It will eventually die out, but many devices (like flash drives) still require it.
Phil has already made it clear that a conventional wireless charger (dock or a mat) is not an option.
I have not seen anyone using one in the wild. It is pointless. Just buy a standard 3$ dock and you have the same thing.
I think that Apple wont release such "wireless charger" or such functionality at all. Or it will be true long-distance wireless charging or it wont happen at all.
I have not seen anyone using one in the wild. It is pointless. Just buy a standard 3$ dock and you have the same thing.
I think that Apple wont release such "wireless charger" or such functionality at all. Or it will be true long-distance wireless charging or it wont happen at all.
Apple Pay does not require Touch ID. You can use a passcode to authenticate the secure payment token for Apple Pay. Here's an Apple support document that mentions this:
"When you pay using Apple Pay in stores
Paying in stores that accept contactless payments with Apple Pay uses Near Field Communication (NFC) technology between your device and the payment terminal. NFC is an industry-standard contactless technology designed to work only across short distances. If your iPhone is on and it detects an NFC field, it will present you with your default card. To send your payment information, you must authenticate using Touch ID or your passcode. No payment information is sent without your authentication. On Apple Watch, you must double-click the side button when the device is unlocked to activate your default card for payment.
After you use Touch ID or enter your passcode on iPhone, or double-click the side button on Apple Watch at a payment terminal, the Secure Element provides your Device Account Number and a transaction-specific dynamic security code. This information is sent along with additional information needed to complete the transaction to the store’s point of sale terminal. Neither Apple nor your device sends your credit, debit, or prepaid card number. Before they approve the payment, your bank or payment network can verify your payment information by checking the dynamic security code to make sure it’s unique and that it’s tied to your device."
Paying in stores that accept contactless payments with Apple Pay uses Near Field Communication (NFC) technology between your device and the payment terminal. NFC is an industry-standard contactless technology designed to work only across short distances. If your iPhone is on and it detects an NFC field, it will present you with your default card. To send your payment information, you must authenticate using Touch ID or your passcode. No payment information is sent without your authentication. On Apple Watch, you must double-click the side button when the device is unlocked to activate your default card for payment.
After you use Touch ID or enter your passcode on iPhone, or double-click the side button on Apple Watch at a payment terminal, the Secure Element provides your Device Account Number and a transaction-specific dynamic security code. This information is sent along with additional information needed to complete the transaction to the store’s point of sale terminal. Neither Apple nor your device sends your credit, debit, or prepaid card number. Before they approve the payment, your bank or payment network can verify your payment information by checking the dynamic security code to make sure it’s unique and that it’s tied to your device."
Facial recognition would simply be another authentication method, an option to the others mentioned above (Touch ID, passcode, Apple Watch side button double-click). The passcode is similar in authentication to the four-digit PIN one would use for a physical debit card.
Touch ID is an authentication method. Apple Pay is a payment system. The two can work together (and often do for many who use Apple products) but they are not dependent on each other to function.
The difference wrt passcode vs. fingerprint isn't unreasonable search and seizure under the 4th amendment. Rather, the difference is based on the 5th amendment's protections against being forced to testify against yourself.
The SCOTUS hasn't ruled on this yet, but the argument is that forcing you to divulge information you have stored inside your mind is considered testimony against yourself. In contrast, a fingerprint is not testimony; it is physical evidence like DNA and you can be forced to provide physical evidence without it being a violation of the 5th amendment.
The 5th amendment was put in place to reduce the likelihood that government officials would force people to give false confessions under duress. Arguably forcing you to divulge your passcode isn't self-incrimination but in the past in dicta the SCOTUS has indicated that the 5th amendment prohibits compelling people to divulge the contents of their minds. So it seems likely that if a case ever did get to the SCOTUS that the SCOTUS would find that the 5th amendment protects you from having to give your passcode.
The same is not true of physical evidence like fingerprints and DNA - physical evidence is not testimony and it is not protected by the 5th amendment. So if you ever write your passcode down say on a piece of paper, that piece of paper is physical evidence and not protected by the 5th amendment. But if your passcode is only stored in your mind, it seems likely that the SCOTUS (should they ever rule on this) would rule that you cannot be compelled to give that information to law enforcement as it would be testimony against yourself.
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Eliminating touch ID sounds utterly ridiculous! Thats why I'm almost positive (if this is in fact the case) Apple has a few tricks up its sleeve to make facial recognition, or whatever biometric tech it decides to use as a replacement work as easily and flawlessly as Touch ID did. Apple knows it can't take a step back with this. So whatever it is I think its going to be a step forward. I'll reserve judgment until Sept. But there are some pretty smart people over at Apple. They know whats at stake here. Removing touch ID is a HUGE risk. So they better have something thats not only marginally better/easy, it has to be a giant leap forward.
Why would someone who thinks that ever read or post on a forum called macrumors?
And so is my FM radio; yet neither my radio or your router is ever going to power a phone.
Yeah I really don't get people who complain about rumors on a rumors site. If you don't like rumors, then don't read them or post in the discussions. But that's literally the purpose of this site.
Knowing Apple, they will charge to unlock the feature. Or the feature will unlock with the purchase and syncing of a charging base.
That way they can either milk their customers directly, or charge 3rd party accessory manufactures a licence, as they do now for charging cables.
My guess is the reason they took so long adopting the standard is they needed the time to figure out how to rip people off.
Isn't that harder on the battery in the long run?
Speak for yourself, I don't particularly care about usb-c and prefer lightning. Headphones or airpods I don't care because neither of them fit my ears.
Thanks for the clarification. I am familiar with 4th and 5th Amendments but did not remember enough of the details of these cases to remember the arguments, just the outcomes (that a person could be compelled to put their finger on a fingerprint reader).
Do you really honestly think Apple will reduce Apple Pay to requiring a passcode to work on their flagship premium device? That's one hundred percent not what's going to happen here. Less than a second to authenticate vs typing in a clunky 6 digit or text password? They want to increase Apple Pay usage, not tank it.
The Note 8 is rumored to cost $1100 and it will not include a wireless charger. It will however include a fast charger. Plus at launch Samsung will likely run a promo where you get free stuff.
You totally missed his point, which is that the payment part is separate from the user authentication part.
The latter can be a passcode, fingerprint, iris or facial recognition. Heck, one day it might use a heartbeat or brainwave. It does not matter.
As you said, the only necessity is that it be convenient. And accurate enough for the vast majority of purchases. If even that in the US. Heck, Americans make thousand dollar purchases now using insecure credit cards and a signature. US banks don't care; they rely more on computerized risk assesments to authorize a purchase.
I usually buy my family new iPhones each year for Christmas and if they don't include Touch ID on the iPhone Pro or whatever it will be called, I will buy them the iPhone 7s instead and wait for next year's iPhone Pro2 to see if they can get Touch ID under the display working.
In all honesty, I think selling a wireless charging dock is cumbersome, and would further fraction their supply lines. It would make more sense to utilize the charger from the Apple Watch. Then you could just make more Apple Watch chargers.
Facial recognition sounds innovative, however that tech has already been utilized on Android phones for more than 5 years with mixed results. An edge to edge displace is great, but that sounds more style over substance. I do feel that Apple always tends to move towards style in sacrifice of function, and people will be happy if the home button with TouchID remains. Take a feature away and more people will be upset.
Facial recognition sounds innovative, however that tech has already been utilized on Android phones for more than 5 years with mixed results. An edge to edge displace is great, but that sounds more style over substance. I do feel that Apple always tends to move towards style in sacrifice of function, and people will be happy if the home button with TouchID remains. Take a feature away and more people will be upset.
The facial recognition on my almost 2YO Microsoft phone works super fast, also when there is NO light, is accurate, couldn't unlock it with piture or video.
It's funny how the article has a Nexus 4 photo with wireless charging lol
This phone was announced in Oct 2012 and I still have its wireless charging dock!
This phone was announced in Oct 2012 and I still have its wireless charging dock!
I AM CHILL #fliptable ..
jk, .. im ok now. maybe i just misread, or how it came across to me vs how it was meant.