Hah, so many dont think enough, it doesnt matter if the phone has usb-c, its the cable that make the connection to the computer......... would be exactly the same like now. All they can do is include a lightning to usb-c cable in addition to regular lightning to usb.
All Three 2017 iPhones Predicted to Have 3GB of RAM and Lightning Connectors With Faster Charging
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Hah, so many dont think enough, it doesnt matter if the phone has usb-c, its the cable that make the connection to the computer......... would be exactly the same like now. All they can do is include a lightning to usb-c cable in addition to regular lightning to usb.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
he only phone I ever owned that I kept for and it lasted that long was my black Razr V3.
mattopotamus
macrumors G5
I really hope they keep the SE line around. I just cannot do these 4.7" plus screen sizes.
MH01
Suspended
Cause many people own new android phones is 2017. I had a walk around my office and there were plenty of USB-c cables, as they come standard with new android devices . If you work in an office that has old phones....sure. Though in an office of 5K employees , there will be so many with brand new android phones
Jaish
macrumors newbie
Perhaps it's because the back is the most visible part of the phone when you're walking around and have it glued to your ear. Although I have to admit I sometimes forgot my iPhone has a... um... PHONE in it...Whereas screen smudges are impossible to see when the screen is lit up and walking around texting, etc.
To your point - it's NOT a big deal; putting it in and out of my pocket usually gives it a decent wipe to alleviate this first world "problem". Then again, I don't normally use my iPhone while changing the oil on my motorbike or during hot wing eating competitions...
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Mac 128
macrumors 603
I own a dozen audio devices. None of them have USB-C outputs. No matter what port my Phone has, I will always need an adapter to use USB-C equipment with my existing devices, until I replace those devices with ones that include USB-C natively. It will take 10 years are more for that to happen. So no, USB-C is NOT a standard audio connector -- in fact, they haven't even worked out the analogue audio output standards for USB-C. Thanks, but I'd rather not replace all my Lightning cables and devices to arbitrarily switch to USB-C that works on nothing else for the foreseeable future, and gamble on wireless audio becoming the standard for consumer audio over the next 5 years, not to mention wireless charging such that I won't even need cables.
Nah, I can't currently use USB-C on anything I own, nor anywhere I can think of using it, and likely for foreseeable future. So switching to that wouldn't help me anyway. I'd be much happier if Apple simply supported Lightning on the Mac via a simple adapter. Likewise for USB-C. All that matters is I can use my audio equipment on any device I encounter with the use of a simple adapter. On that point I agree -- it's ridiculous that I can't use a pair of Lightning headphones on a Mac 8 months after the iPhone 7 took away the headphone jack.
Dozer_Zaibatsu
macrumors 6502
I agree with your observation, and please don't take this as a disagreement with your point. But it re-affirms to me that, yeah, the marketing for phones is working like advertising for cigarettes, or variations of sugar water.
It's a product that is essentially produced at a very low cost, and the major impetus by the manufacturers is to advertise to people that they "need" it, while the user experience does not essentially change.
You are correct that it's "like a car." But I don't get that either. I don't get people who drive a Mercedes SUV that is, essentially, the same kind of vehicle that a Ford or Hyundai SUV is, but $20K more. But I'm not that market. And I'll call it out when I see it.
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Purchasing expensive jewelry is not my taste, but I understand it in the way that, at the very least, gems and metal rings are durable, and in theory should have value in 100 years.
I understand purchasing and using computers for their purpose. I use my computers for hours every day. I can't understand spending a lot of money on an expensive computer for no compelling reason.
The defense that "hey, some idiots paid millions for Fabergé eggs, too" is not one I will mount for the Apple Corporation.
H3LL5P4WN
macrumors 68040
Because it's a larger, less sturdy port? And who cares about sharing things with green bubble people? I do have to agree that the new MBP should have had a lightning port for the Ear Pods.
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I do have lots of lightning cables. Because all of my devices (except my Apple Watch) use them.
Imagine there weren't Android phones with USB-C for a second.
USB-C would be directly analogous to USB-A; your phone would invariably have a different connector than the ones found on your computer.
This is the rationale that Apple has adopted. USB-C is merely a replacement for USB-A, and just as iPhones (or iPods, or iPads) never had USB-A ports, they will never have USB-C ports.
There are many factors that make that approach less than logical, but alas that is the approach that Apple have taken.
USB-C would be directly analogous to USB-A; your phone would invariably have a different connector than the ones found on your computer.
This is the rationale that Apple has adopted. USB-C is merely a replacement for USB-A, and just as iPhones (or iPods, or iPads) never had USB-A ports, they will never have USB-C ports.
There are many factors that make that approach less than logical, but alas that is the approach that Apple have taken.
doelcm82
macrumors 68040
I can't understand it either. Then again, I do have compelling reasons for the ways I spend my money. Maybe not reasons that you would find compelling, but why would that matter?
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What's wrong with it? If your #1 priority is maximizing your USB-C utilization, that's exactly what you should do. But only if USB-C is so important to you that that you're willing to give up the iOS-macOS ecosystem.
Feenician
macrumors 603
THANK YOU! I am so tired of reading "but the iphone/ipad doesn't have a USB-C connector! It doesn't make sense!! Fire TIM!!1one!!". Guess what? It didn't have a USB-A connector either. Never. There are two sides to a cable.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
It's wrong from the perspective that all Apple things should work together where it makes sense and make it easy for use by the consumer. The fact that connections work better across competitors than between an OEM's devices is directionally wrong.
Dozer_Zaibatsu
macrumors 6502
YES, but the advocacy of USB-C has long been "the one port to rule them all." Specifically, to get the advantage of not only a newer, more-advanced spec, but moving toward reversible formats, unifying what was USB-A, USB-Micro, USB-Mini plus Thunderbolt.
If USB-C is just USB-Micro ver 2, well, then marketers deserve to be [metaphorically] tarred and feathered for misleading users for what was something between vaporware and an elaborate prank.
I applaud Apple (and Google and Lenovo and Dell) for actually working to push the standard. I think Apple could have made this easier by including a pass-through USB-C adapter with, say, one MDP/TB2 and one or two USB-A ports to show that they mean to ease transfer of their customer base to all USB-C. MacBooks included Firewire 400 and 800 for a couple of generations out of courtesy to their pros before. And I knew more than a few photographers who had piles of FW 800 drives who made use of it. Surely, MDP and USB-A connectors must be many times that user base.
nviz22
Cancelled
SEs won't go away anytime soon. I can't think of a $200 phone with a 4" screen, A9 processor or equivalent of, a good camera, great stand-by battery life, frequent updates, longevity, and a robust design.
The closest thing to the SE is the Nexus 5X and the 808 processor cannot compete with the A9 processor.
doelcm82
macrumors 68040
But I'm a consumer who owns an older mac. I also own cables and docks that use the lightning port. I understand the appeal of a single type of multi-purpose port across all devices, but I'm not ready to replace my laptop yet.
Also there are hints that Apple is leaning towards wireless power for iPhones, so it may not make sense for them to change over to USB-C (with all the controversy that will bring) when the primary way to connect to the phone will be without using a port (which will also be controversial).
bladerunner2000
Suspended
Stop buying Apple products and you won't have to deal with their bollocks. In fact, you'll get a faster performing machine, USB-C and a headphone jack... at half the price.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
Define wireless. Sitting on a pad or anywhere within "x" number of feet?
I can see that (laptop). I still look at my Apple stuff and wonder why lightning vs. USB-C ...
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doelcm82
macrumors 68040
Yes.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
Chuckle
I don't see this as being a real benefit yet. MHO.
I have a charging point set up in my work office, home office, bedroom, den, living room, portable for travel, and car. Now to set up as "sitting on a pad" wireless? Serious bucks. Within "X" number of feet would be cheaper maybe.
I'll wait and stick with cables for now.
FartyMcFarter
macrumors newbie
This is why I have started to move my family away from Apple. I just got an android (lg k20) for $200 and its a great phone. I'm now looking to get an LG V20. And then I will be replacing the other phones in the family over time. There are is so much more you can get for the money with Android.
Apple has completely stopped innovating under Tim Cook. They don't even do marketing. They are just coasting.
Apple has completely stopped innovating under Tim Cook. They don't even do marketing. They are just coasting.
What a mess indeed....
You forgot to connect the camera and the rest of the devices people own that didn't suddenly vanish because apple released a product.
