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To the people complaining about the notch, design, or anything else.

The solution is simple, buy a different phone other than an iPhone.
 
Sure it is. If you don’t like the grill on a bmw, your life will be much happier if you buy a Benz or Audi instead of constantly whining about it to everyone.

Or at least our lives will be happier if everyone stops whining about it to us. :)

So why would someone go through the hassle of completely changing platform just because they dislike an aesthetic of their iPhone?

It’s ok to voice constructive criticism about our favourite consumer products and especially on a forum dedicated to discussing them. Nobody on this thread is ‘constantly whining’ about anything. Not everything is fluffy and sweet.
 
So why would someone go through the hassle of completely changing platform just because they dislike an aesthetic of their iPhone?

It’s ok to voice constructive criticism about our favourite consumer products and especially on a forum dedicated to discussing them. Nobody on this thread is ‘constantly whining’ about anything. Not everything is fluffy and sweet.
Nobody is constantly whining? Really? Some of these people have posted notch complaints a dozen times on macrumors.
 
Nobody is constantly whining? Really? Some of these people have posted notch complaints a dozen times on macrumors.

I’m not usually one for checking post histories and keeping a check on what people post but how many posts have you made in this thread criticising people for their design tastes and preferences?

It’s not far off a dozen.
 
Notch, going past design and personal taste, killed status bar. You don't have issues with crippled status bar?
 
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I’m not usually one for checking post histories and keeping a check on what people post but how many posts have you made in this thread criticising people for their design tastes and preferences?

It’s not far off a dozen.

none that I’m aware oF. I’ve said I like the notch. I criticized a wallpaper. I don’t think I criticized a person for anything other than whining. Certainly not a person’s taste or preferences.
 


A range of images have today emerged from Twitter user @Jin_Store allegedly featuring iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro molds, offering a further look at what may be in the works for the 2020 iPhone lineup.

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The molds are similar to those usually seen in the lead-up to the announcement of new iPhones. These physical molds are often based on leaked schematics and are produced by third party case manufacturers to develop cases for upcoming devices.

The design depicted in these images is consistent with other rumors that have leaked from the supply chain regarding Apple's upcoming iPhone models, with iPad Pro-style flat edges that are a significant design departure from current models. The notch does not appear to be any smaller in these molds, but this may be because case makers would probably not need to have an accurate replica of that area.

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The mold images show all iPhone four sizes that rumors have indicated Apple may release in 2020: A 5.4-inch ‌iPhone 12‌, a 6.1-inch ‌iPhone 12‌, a 6.1-inch ‌iPhone 12‌ Pro, and a 6.7-inch ‌iPhone 12‌ Pro Max.

The Twitter user also posted a number of CAD renders. CAD images of unreleased iPhones shared online are usually presented as official designs leaked from production factories, but are often made by case makers themselves to predict the design of unreleased devices.

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The designs closely mirror other leaks, such as those from Mac Otakara. The expected 3D camera setup, however, similar to the iPad Pro's LiDAR Scanner, does not appear to be present.

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Apple is expected to begin production of its 2020 iPhone lineup next month. For more on what to expect from the 2020 ‌iPhone‌ models, be sure to see our dedicated roundup.

Article Link: Alleged iPhone 12 Molds and CAD Images Show New iPad Pro-Style Design
Macrumors, I think you are confused. This is the iPhone 4 design. You can call it "iPad Pro design" all you want, but it's really just a recycled version of Jobs' iconic, Leica-esque design. You need to stop trying to find creative (and misleading) ways to let Apple off the hook for its utter, complete, and total lack of innovation in product design.
 
It really is, it's too bad people can't accept the truth and move on with their limited lives.

The worst kind of people are the ones who constantly complain about something and don't do anything about it.

So how is buying another phone with more things you don’t like, a solution for walking away from a phone because you aren’t keen on a very minor detail?

It’s very judgemental suggesting people here who you don’t know apart from a username have ‘very limited lives’ based on a couple of discussion points. Why don’t you buy a phone on another platform too?
 
So how is buying another phone with more things you don’t like, a solution for walking away from a phone because you aren’t keen on a very minor detail?
There are tons of alternative phones out there with no notch, "better" designs, fingerprint sensors, headphone jacks, and the list goes on. These are things people around here constantly complain about and there are plenty of options for these folks, so why not opt for those phones and move on with your lives?

It’s very judgemental suggesting people here who you don’t know apart from a username have ‘very limited lives’ based on a couple of discussion points.
Talk about being dramatic and reading too much into my words. Limited lives as in we all have limited lives. Life is short. Constantly complaining about the same things over and over again and doing nothing about it is nothing but a waste of one's life.

Why don’t you buy a phone on another platform too?
Because I have no complaints with my current phone, and it looks like Apple will deliver exactly what I want with the 5.4" iPhone 12.

Sounds like someone's angry and annoyed for no apparent reason. But hey you keep complaining if that makes you feel better!
 
Iconic? I don't think so. It's ugly af, but at this time necessary. I hope they shrink or remove so we can get status bar back.

Right now I gotta use jailbreak to do this

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You jailbreak your phone to display battery percentage?
 
There are tons of alternative phones out there with no notch, "better" designs, fingerprint sensors, headphone jacks, and the list goes on. These are things people around here constantly complain about and there are plenty of options for these folks, so why not opt for those phones and move on with your lives?
If you want iOS then the only option is an iPhone. There is more to a phone than just the aesthetics. It’s about the whole package even if there are aspects that someone may not like.
Talk about being dramatic and reading too much into my words. Limited lives as in we all have limited lives. Life is short. Constantly complaining about the same things over and over again and doing nothing about it is nothing but a waste of one's life.
Not dramatic, just the way you wrote it sounded like you were belittling those who have a different point of view.

Because I have no complaints with my current phone, and it looks like Apple will deliver exactly what I want with the 5.4" iPhone 12.

Sounds like someone's angry and annoyed for no apparent reason. But hey you keep complaining if that makes you feel better!
I don’t have any complaints with my current phone either, nor have I complained in this thread. Wrong person mate.
 
if you have to ask this, then you don’t understand its core existence in the first place. It houses over eight separate components for the iPhone.

Yeah, it's that time of year when a bunch of non-engineers chime in about achieving the (currently) impossible. It's encouraging to see cameras beneath the screen coming to phones, but I'm guessing not advanced enough for security applications: https://www.dpreview.com/news/61684...y-to-mass-produce-under-display-front-cameras
 
You know the components are underneath the bezel right? The lenses can fit no problem.

The Face ID components and lcd screen cannot occupy the same physical space at the same time. You have frame “above” the face id components, lcd “below” or around them(in current config), more frame behind them and a bezel in front. On top of which, any phone case that actually protects the phone, will wrap and around and cover the bezel. These all sound like a bunch of first world problems to me. I got a XS Max and plan to upgrade this year(after two years). I am certain i will be impressed by some of the new features, I am also certain I will be less than impressed by some of the new features(or lack of NEW features). Not sure I would want to be agonizing over what some multi-million dollar company might or might not do in relation to my wants for their product. Frankly I would be thrilled if all this junk just WORKED PROPERLY all the time until it was actually incapable of handling the data being fed to it. Then maybe I wouldn’t feel like I “needed” to “upgrade” every two years when my phone almost always inexplicably starts acting incorrectly after about 15 months of ownership.
 
The Face ID components and lcd screen cannot occupy the same physical space at the same time. You have frame “above” the face id components, lcd “below” or around them(in current config), more frame behind them and a bezel in front. On top of which, any phone case that actually protects the phone, will wrap and around and cover the bezel. These all sound like a bunch of first world problems to me. I got a XS Max and plan to upgrade this year(after two years). I am certain i will be impressed by some of the new features, I am also certain I will be less than impressed by some of the new features(or lack of NEW features). Not sure I would want to be agonizing over what some multi-million dollar company might or might not do in relation to my wants for their product. Frankly I would be thrilled if all this junk just WORKED PROPERLY all the time until it was actually incapable of handling the data being fed to it. Then maybe I wouldn’t feel like I “needed” to “upgrade” every two years when my phone almost always inexplicably starts acting incorrectly after about 15 months of ownership.

So put it in the frame above (make it a few mm taller if need be) just like the iPad Pro and give users their entire screen back. I'm patiently waiting for Apple to ditch the notch before I upgrade from my 8+, which still works great. Hopefully, it will be this fall or next year.
 
If you want iOS then the only option is an iPhone. There is more to a phone than just the aesthetics. It’s about the whole package even if there are aspects that someone may not like.
Of course there's more to a phone than just design and aesthetics, but nothing is perfect.

Be happy with what you're given, and if you don't like it, move on. This is not to you specifically, but it's to the same folks who've been complaining about the notch and other various things like no headphone jack for YEARS.
 
When the 11 Pro Max was shown off, I swore I wasn’t going to upgrade because of the back of the phone and I figured my XS Max was perfect in every way. Now almost a year later of looking at them in the wild I like them. Even if the 12 Pro Max resembles the 11 Pro Max, I’m still upgrading with the hope that it will be 6.7 and will have a Qualcomm modem again. I’m even in the process of switching carriers and paying outright for this year’s upgrade.
 
I'm a little late to the game, but that's okay if the name of the game is Back to the Future.

I'm running one of the old-school iPhone SEs, and I wasn't tempted by the new SE even with the tech boost, because the rounded edges made it feel slippery and because I like having a phone I can pocket without doing a dance. The smallest of these forms, if it's real, might be the first plausible replacement for my SE, depending on features/price.
 
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