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I agree.

I do the same upgrade cycle - phones is usually 4 years as I rather replace it with a new one vs replacing the battery for 1 more year.
Battery technology needs to advance and have a radical shift - not just in mobile devices but in general. It's not sustainable and it's underwhelming in terms of performance.

Imagine the day when an iPhone will last like a Nokia did in the past... 5 days.
With these M chips and low consumption even Macs and IPads would have insane autonomy for several days.
And cars should follow - as nobody wants to carry a ton of extra weight for a barely recyclable battery with the scarce Lithium availability on the planet.

Yeah... I went overboard and started dreaming with my eyes open :)

If you actually use your current iPhone like you did with Nokia, I would not be surprised if it last 3 to 4 days. We do so much more on our smartphone compared to Nokia 2G era where we only send SMS and talk.

I could see the roadmap of Display, antenna, modem, SoC making the iPhone 25% more efficient in the next few years. If we could get a next gen battery with 50% increase in capacity, all of a sudden 75 to 150 gives you double the battery life. Along with Double the cycles count so your phone would last 5-6 years without changing battery. Or enough for you to use your iPhone until iOS support drops. I think this is what will happen sometime between 2025 - 2030. Which again if everybody want one would trigger another upgrade cycle, that is 200M iPhone per yer for another 5 years.
 
I don’t know why people say the design is new harking back to the iPhone 4, the iPhone 4 had round buttons for volume. I can’t tell but if they bevel the corners it may make the phone a bit nicer to hold. The glass on the 4 jutted out but this looks like a bevel. Actually the side looks more like the iPhone 5, and I hope they don’t go back to aluminum! Actually it could be aluminum to save costs - no no!
 
The same CPU in the next iPhone?, aren’t we getting overly greedy, Apple ?.
 
Well, my guess it’s the usual suspects: A16 (this is our fastest iPhone ever!), possibly more RAM (not that it matters much), perhaps ProMotion trickling down to a non-pro line and, maybe, some more camera tricks.
Ooh, promotion would be nice.

I can’t stand the Pro camera software processing, though. It makes an oil painting. I hate it.
 
Exactly. A 14 with the same design and same chip? What are they going to market? Just the budget Max size?
That's why I think Kuo's tweets are just soggy tea leaves and nothing more.
I think the chip aspect is being misreported. I could easily see the design being fairly unchanged (smaller notch, maybe smaller bezels), but still the updated chip/ram/camera.
 
No. A 13S indicates an improved internal. If Apple keeps the A15, this is literally just the same 13 renamed.
You're right, this is why I said almost. Though rumors have implied they will be putting the 13 Pro A15 with 2 more gigabytes of RAM and extra GPU core over the regular 13. Which could be argued as an internal upgrade.

If they're wrong and it has an A16 then even more so.
 
I’m not so sure about that Stu. It doesn’t seem to me Timmy needs any help ‘spinning’ anything. I mean, if you paid attention to the quarterly reports, [especially during the last two years of a global pandemic], seems Timmy Cook and Company are exceedingly doing very well as a whole. It’s possible maybe that you missed those reports. But I’ll let it slide.:D
Timmy raided the once $220+ billion war chest accumulated under Steve Jobs for stock buyback. This has been the primary factor driving the stock up. Ya Berkshire's & Blackrocks are in just fish following the Apple whale that's been the biggest buyer. All so Timmy n Artie & others could be billionaires. Steve thought of the customer, Timmy thinks of his bank account. Like all corporate butchers he's never cared what the hell Apple makes or how well it sells. Just fatten it up, carve it up & keep taking pieces.
 
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Keeping the 12 design would be great. I always thought the 4 design was too brittle to justify the looks. Thumbs down for the 'Glass Sandwich.' Tucking the glass inside a metal rail makes much more sense, usability wise.
 
Apple just changed the design last year. They're not going to change it again this year.
Exactly. I am very skeptical of rumors of the notch going away this year. Apple had th same design for four years (X, XS, 11, 12) and just switched it this year, now they’re going to switch it again? Maybe in three years.
 
In regards to the chip not being the A16 and instead opting for the A15 for the standard iPhones… I am feeling a bit of deja vu… I remember the last time Apple never updated the chip in a device… the iPad Pro 2020 ring any bells… from A12X to A12Z was basically the same chip… and what happened we got M1 in the iPad… so IMO I think that Apple arnt going to bother developing an A16 at all and instead will throw the M1 in the iPhone Pro line up but possibly downclocked… keep the standard iPhone 14 on A15, then next year the iPhone Pro will get M2 and the standard iPhone will get M1 and so on and so forth… I can also see the iPad mini and standard iPad line ups eventually getting M series chips as time goes on… they will probably even throw it in the Apple TV at some point too…

That way Apple only need to create one line of chips for the vast majority of their devices excluding the Apple Watch, HomePod, AirPods and AirTags.

To add a bit more fuel to this, when the iPad Pro got the M1 everyone believed this would be the main differentiator between the iPad Pro and iPad Air then a year later the Air gained M1 too… so it sort of makes sense IMO…
 
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Exactly. I am very skeptical of rumors of the notch going away this year. Apple had th same design for four years (X, XS, 11, 12) and just switched it this year, now they’re going to switch it again? Maybe in three years.
The iPhone 12 had a redesign, but I agree it seems a bit premature for any redesign however it is only for the pro line of devices… so it could potentially happen.
 
The iPhone 12 had a redesign, but I agree it seems a bit premature for any redesign however it is only for the pro line of devices… so it could potentially happen.
Right, I forgot about that. They squared it off but it looks the same from the front. I personally prefer the old design without sharp edges in your hand.
 
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Right, I forgot about that. They squared it off but it looks the same from the front. I personally prefer the old design without sharp edges in your hand.
I prefer the round edges for comfortability, but I prefer the flat edges design because screen protectors don’t constantly lift at the edges 😂
 
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If you actually use your current iPhone like you did with Nokia, I would not be surprised if it last 3 to 4 days. We do so much more on our smartphone compared to Nokia 2G era where we only send SMS and talk.

I could see the roadmap of Display, antenna, modem, SoC making the iPhone 25% more efficient in the next few years. If we could get a next gen battery with 50% increase in capacity, all of a sudden 75 to 150 gives you double the battery life. Along with Double the cycles count so your phone would last 5-6 years without changing battery. Or enough for you to use your iPhone until iOS support drops. I think this is what will happen sometime between 2025 - 2030. Which again if everybody want one would trigger another upgrade cycle, that is 200M iPhone per yer for another 5 years.
Good point on the using the Nokia vs iPhone - battery life!

Nevertheless it would be nice to have that battery life on today’s usage.
Anyway - fingers crossed for phones with longer life and replacing them when they stop being supported.
 
I'm truly interested in the 14 max. I'd like to move up in screen size, and have reduced weight. The pro max is pretty heavy.
 
iPhone is more like expensive handbag now, the functionality is let you carry something and cannot be improved, just more about brand passion.
 
All I care about is USB-C, and larger camera sensors.

The processors are beyond fast enough. I would trade a two generations old processor for an internal camera ND. Give me ProRes RAW and I'll change my name to Timothy.
 
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