Alleged iPhone 5S User Guide Photo Highlights Fingerprint Sensor As 'Touch ID'

[bigchrisfgb]

NFC is a must on it, otherwise the only way it's an advantage by having the finger print scanner is to save time by entering a pin. Even iOS 7's new feature of locking an iPhone totally until you enter your password downplays this feature if NFC isn't included.

iPhone 5s without NFC = Meh

iPhone 5s with NFC = Yeah that works.

 

[L3g4to]

funny what people are expecting,

of course the case-design only changes every 2 years.
Those Machines which build the iPhone have cost pretty much,
they have to pay off first before they will change the design,
its not like plastic where you melt the case.

The other thing what desturbs me is, what else people really want
in their phones ?

im pretty happy with an nfc-chip, so i can open my car- and home-door with the mobile phone (and than the battery dies )

fingerprint is an interesting story, maby you dont need no "special" code to unlock your phone anymore (the old code knew nearly everyone )

but what else? i think todays mobile-phones have got everything they can and we need

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

I'll take a stab that the 5C will only arrive in a 16GB version, as with their already being multiple colours present, Apple will likely want to keep the inventory focused. As for the 5S, 32GB, 64GB and 128GB seems reasonable enough.

It's a similar pattern to the Mac products - encouraging people to spend more for the newest updates. The USPs of the 5S will therefore be the 'Touch ID', Dual Flash, more memory options and metal casing.

 

[thasan]

funny what people are expecting,

of course the case-design only changes every 2 years.
Those Machines which build the iPhone have cost pretty much,
they have to pay off first before they will change the design,
its not like plastic where you melt the case.

The other thing what desturbs me is, what else people really want
in their phones ?

im pretty happy with an nfc-chip, so i can open my car- and home-door with the mobile phone (and than the battery dies )

fingerprint is an interesting story, maby you dont need no "special" code to unlock your phone anymore (the old code knew nearly everyone )

but what else? i think todays mobile-phones have got everything they can and we need

a hologram?
joking aside, i am sceptical about fingerprint sensor. i think it wont properly

 

[Tar Sniffer]

iOS 7 doesn't look like a quality product in these images. Consumers can be pretty shallow, so I imagine that the home screen is going to be damaging to sales.

 

[Bakkki]

My guess is "Touch ID" will have nothing to do with reading fingerprints. Instead, it will be some kind of capacitive sensing and identification technology.

 

[moxin]

most annoying thing "home button" is gone

 

[L3g4to]

a hologram?
joking aside, i am sceptical about fingerprint sensor. i think it wont properly

yes a hologram would be awesome but the technology is not ready
i hope that the fingerprint will work awesome too
and not by pressing 5-times the button to realize its the correct users-finger

 

[bushido]

id take a water resistant iphone and a notification led like on the xperia over an fingerprint scanner tbh maybe on the iPhone 6

 

[peterdevries]

My guess is "Touch ID" will have nothing to do with reading fingerprints. Instead, it will be some kind of capacitive sensing and identification technology.

Did you not pick up on the fact that Apple bought Authentec? Why would Apple use a different technology than the one they just acquired?

 

[iZac]

The silver ring around the home button looks really slick on the white iPhone!

Agreed, this looks pretty cool!

 

[recklesslife85]

Its not about who does it first. It's about who makes it really work first.

HP is your answer then. Worked great for them.

 

[Cormac2014]

Gee I wonder if the NSA and CIA will be able to lift your fingerprints from the new iPhone remotely ?
We all know they have anti encryption software and backdoor access from many IT companies !

 

[fullauto]

I noticed on the nowhereelse.fr article - the rumoured 'slate grey' will be called 'space grey'? Interesting.

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/iphone-5s-lecteur-empreintes-digitales-confirme-88283/

 

[carlemil]

The icons are still the same shape..

No they are not.
They are more curved on iOS 7.
We are currently in the process of redesigning our icons to fit the new cropping.

It's very obvious on the apps that uses a rounded frame around their icons.

 

[flottenheimer]

I guess the most exciting part of the keynote will be to hear Apple announce the retail price of the 5C.
Which might sound dull, but it is a major one.

 

[Tysknaden]

The silver ring

... is only acceptable on the white incarnation. And it feels to me, that the murky new icons will look most horrible on a black iPhone.
My assumption is, that the amount of sold white versions will go up.
For me, white electronics always look a little bit like medical instruments. But fingerprints are more visible on dark surfaces. On the other hand, a black bezel makes it easier to concentrate on the screen's contents.

 

[Trius]

Is it a coincidence that the new #iPhone5S fingerprint will be called #TouchID and http://touch-id.com/ is a Payment solutions company called #XAFAX?

Lawsuit in 3..2..1..

 

[ValSalva]

... is only acceptable on the white incarnation. And it feels to me, that the murky new icons will look most horrible on a black iPhone.
My assumption is, that the amount of sold white versions will go up.
For me, white electronics always look a little bit like medical instruments. But fingerprints are more visible on dark surfaces. On the other hand, a black bezel makes it easier to concentrate on the screen's contents.

Maybe the ring will be the same color as the chamfers so it won't stick out like a sore thumb on the black and gold models. We'll see today.

 

[iPhysicist]

yes a hologram would be awesome but the technology is not ready

Holograms need a medium. So no hologram until this problem is bypassed.

 

[Millah]

Well, no. I think the point is that we'll soon see other phone companies (especially Samsung) implement a fingerprint scanner in the *exact* same way as Apple, i.e.: embedded in the home button for unlocking the device.

To put it another way, the problem with previous fingerprint scanners was that they were an add-on. You (a) had to actively swipe, rather than just touch, and (b) locate an explicit part of the phone, rather than a button you already use all the time. These two things are what will make “Touch ID” different and successful, and also why it will be totally valid to label other companies as copycats when they do the same thing.

You also forgot to mention one that uses a completely new technique, completely new implementation, and one that works reliably and doesn't break after a few months. Previous styles of fingerprint scanners (which have existed for a decade as PC peripherals) first of all required a swipe. They weren't flat, capacitive surfaces. They could not be thoroughly protected with protective coating due to bad-readings, and would thus wear down the sensors after too many swipes. Etc.

We could spend a while explaining what makes Apples technology and implementation such a breakthrough in the field, but there's no point arguing that to them. Trying to explain the concept of implementation to a spec-sheet nerd mindset is like trying to tell Steve Ballmer in 2007 that the iPhone wasn't a toy. Their minds just can't comprehend.

 

[kooljesh]

Good use for that $356 million Deal in 2012

Put that $356 million AuthenTec acquisition in good use....

 

[Jjaro]

I think this is fake. Looking at my old iPhone documentation, I believe this is just an elaborate mockup someone made, just like the fake box. Why no background picture you guys wonder? White for white! Nah, I don't think so... It would have the iconic iOS 7 pic we've all been seeing since June.

 

[wouter1971]

Nice info

Quote: "AuthenTec, spun off from Harris Semiconductor in 1998 and which went public in 2007, provides mobile security software licenses to companies like Samsung, and fingerprint sensor technology to computer makers such as Hewlett-Packard Co (HPQ.N) and Dell Inc (DELL.O).

Its fingerprint technology, used in mobile phones in Japan for authentication of mobile payments, could help Apple bring those services to markets such as the United States, where mobile-wallet services have been slow to catch on."

Looks like Samsung is taking a license from Apple after all

 

[Jjaro]

NFC is a must on it, otherwise the only way it's an advantage by having the finger print scanner is to save time by entering a pin. Even iOS 7's new feature of locking an iPhone totally until you enter your password downplays this feature if NFC isn't included.

iPhone 5s without NFC = Meh

iPhone 5s with NFC = Yeah that works.

Agreed! While I know it's not prevalent in the US, NFC is all over the place in some countries, namely Japan. I am gonna be sorely disappointed if we don't get NFC.

On an aside note, I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans say that Apple won't add a feature because it's not big in the US. Get off your high horse, America is not the only country that exists on this planet, and Apple knows that.