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Alleged 'Mac Studio' Renders Surface Ahead of Tomorrow's 'Peek Performance' Apple Event

blazerunner said:
12th gen Intel CPUs do work in Hackintoshes, still loooots of life left for Hackintoshes, especially considering Apple has one more Intel Mac to release.
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For me it's more about time now. I started Hackintoshing just before University, and whilst I had time then, that isn't the case anymore. I don't want to be scared hitting the update button, or spending an evening figuring out why USB power is gone or something. I've learnt a lot, but it's time to move on. Amazing hobby for any tech enthusiast to get into though!
 
Now what truly would be amazing is the software and integration with the Mac Studio would enable so that MacBook Pro users with m1 cpu can connect to the Mac Studio via thunderbolts 4 and utilise it as an accelerator for there portable Mac , utilise it as an Mac Dock and extra GPU power for rendering. Apple could make this with introducing Metal Node for distributed GPU acceleration task . Now what would be even more amazing is that if this unit would not only be able to connect 1 Mac but multiply Mac and with thunderbolts 4 and charge them, accelerate them and storage with 40 gb/sec thunderbolt 4 speed .

A Mac not only for a user but a Mac for a team.
 
CWallace said:
Thunderbolt 3 does support DisplayPort 1.4 so we should be covered, there.
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I should have said to just have ports that meet the designed spec. People have had issues with the M1 Mac Mini above 60hz - even on the Thunderbolt ports.
 
SSD-GUY said:
For me it's more about time now. I started Hackintoshing just before University, and whilst I had time then, that isn't the case anymore. I don't want to be scared hitting the update button, or spending an evening figuring out why USB power is gone or something. I've learnt a lot, but it's time to move on. Amazing hobby for any tech enthusiast to get into though!
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OpenCore has pretty much solved all the issues of updates screwing things up. It's way better than Clover or the others.
 
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These are my thoughts on what the specs for the all-new Mac Studio might be...! ;^p

Mac Studio will replace the high-end 2018 Intel Mac mini, bridging the gap between the (new smaller design) Mn-series Mac mini and the full tower Mac Pro...

Mac Studio will go from a base single M1 Pro SoC model all the way up to a dual M1 Max SoC model:
  • Base model - 8/14, 16/512, Gigabit Ethernet, $1499
  • Fully loaded model - 20/64, 128/8T, 10Gb Ethernet, $6999
Four TB4/USB4 (USB-C) ports & two USB 3.1 Gen2 (USB-A) ports on the single SoC models...

Six TB4/USB4 (USB-C) ports & four USB 3.1 Gen2 (USB-A) ports on the dual SoC models...

Gigabit Ethernet standard, upgrade to 10Gb Ethernet is US$100...

SoCCPUP/EGPURAMSSDEthernet
M1 Pro8-core6P/2E14-core16GB/32GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Pro10-core6P/2E14-core16GB/32GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Pro10-core8P/2E16-core16GB/32GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Max10-core8P/2E24-core32GB/64GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Max10-core8P/2E32-core32GB/64GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
Dual M1 Max20-core16P/4E48-core64GB/128GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
Dual M1 Max20-core16P/4E64-core64GB/128GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb

Mac Studio front three quarter.png


For the colocation folk, it may not offer the same density as the shorter Mac mini, but the dual SoC models might help make up for that...?
 
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incoherent_1 said:
Please please please have user-expandable memory & storage.
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That's extremely unlikely considering Apple Silicone is a complete unified System-on-a-Chip (SoC) with embedded memory shared between the CPU and GPU. In this case it's not about memory being soldered onto the motherboard, it's actually embedded within the SoC.
 
If it turns out to be that size I'll be very interested in seeing how Apple decides to use it. I have no issue with it being bigger, especially if I get more ports and its upgradable. Otherwise it's hard to see what it's for besides maybe a dual M1 Max clocked really high and some massive cooling.
 
If it were going to be anything like that, it would have to pack some serious performance.

Something tells me this render is way, way off.
 
Boil said:
Yes, please, but in Space Gray...?



Going to a dual SoC configuration would not double the SSD...?
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Yes, I assume it would. It it's two MAX's joined together, there seems to be a blanket assumption that each can have it's own full RAM (max) of 64GB for 128GB total, so I assume each could have its own Apple SSD (max) of 8TB for 16TB total.

Or perhaps you didn't mean to put that question mark on the end and are trying to say that a DUO would be limited to 8TB?
 
grouch said:
I *love* my 2013 mac pro, if the GPUs and i/o wasn't so dated I'd use it forever.
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Agreed, the 2013 Mac Pro is a wonderful device (It might not be a great “Mac Pro” but it is a great “Mac Studio”).

I really wish Apple had just updated it once or twice over the 6 years it sold. Even if it was to just update the i/o to Thunderbolt 3 etc.
 
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theluggage said:
There's only so many you can support with an M1 Pro/Max, going by the MacBook Pro - which appears to offer 1 extra TB4 and 1 HDMI (presumably as DisplayPort internally) c.f. the regular M1. Nothing that wouldn't fit on an Intel Mini case.

..and the current Mini case was big enough to support a desktop Intel i7 (...or, before that, a mobile-class CPU and an optical drive and a spinning rust HD...) so it shouldn't need to get much bigger to cool a M1 Max that can work in a MBP...

Plus, it just looks ugly. A Mac Mini without the "mini" bit. Unless they've made space for a couple of 2.5" hard drives/SSDs or some other form of internal expansion but... flap! oink!

These rumours are getting so all-over-the-place that I'm bracing myself for just an iPhone SE and watch bands tomorrow...
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Don't forget new emoji! ?

We need about 30 minutes showing us a dozen or two new emoji.
 
Boil said:
These are my thoughts on what the specs for the all-new Mac Studio might be...! ;^p

SoCCPUP/EGPURAMSSDEthernet
M1 Pro8-core6P/2E14-core16GB/32GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Pro10-core6P/2E14-core16GB/32GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Pro10-core8P/2E16-core16GB/32GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Max10-core8P/2E24-core32GB/64GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
M1 Max10-core8P/2E32-core32GB/64GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
Dual M1 Max20-core16P/4E48-core64GB/128GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
Dual M1 Max20-core16P/4E64-core64GB/128GB512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TBGigabit/10Gb
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I think you're on the right track to be guessing Dual SOC based on this render, because that's what it looks like....something with extreme performance that we haven't seen yet.

But does the same form factor make sense for a single M1 Pro, or even a single M1 Max? I don't know.

Something feels very off here.
 
BlendedFrog said:
If these supposed mac mini or mac studio are within the $2K price range, then I am definitely canceling my MBP order and getting one of these. Don't need a $4K laptop that is always connected to my external monitors and doesn't go anyway, when I can get a maxed out mac mini for somewhere in the $2K range that has the same specs. Plus, I can keep my MBA and use that if I need to travel with it.
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I have nearly 100% expectation that pricing of this Mini whatever is likely to be MBpro 14" specced as desired minus about $500-$700 because it doesn't come with the lid, keyboard, touchpad, better speakers, etc. I have ZERO expectation that Apple is going to deliver MBpro-like power for a huge discount... just maybe $500-$700 or so for the parts that don't come with a Mini or whatever.

If this Studio thing is real, I'm actually expecting pricing to go the OTHER way... meaning maybe the $500-$700 is too much... or perhaps ADD $500-$700 MORE even though it doesn't have the lid, keyboard, etc.

But that logic/fear (but pure speculation) offered, I'll hope you are right and that we can get MBpro-power at a huge discount in this box.
 
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You know what? I think this helps consolidate Apple's desktop lines to something more sensible.
I don't think we're getting a big iMac or iMac Pro (and... I actually think Apple is going to say the Mac Studio takes care of the Mac Pro people too and axe that line also. That part is a wild card).

They're going to have:
  1. iMac (entry level computer and 24" all in one for home consumers, schools and businesses, in colours)
  2. Mac mini (entry level, but for people who want a bigger screen. They can bring their own display or buy Apple's new one)
  3. Mac Studio (for people who want the iMac Pro's power and a bigger screen).
 
I could see storage expansion as being a possibility, albeit fairly unlikely, since Apple could use some of the TB4 IO for an internal socket of some kind. Still think it's a long shot though.

But I think even if it's technically possible Apple won't do it because it makes $$$ from storage.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Yes, I assume it would. It it's two MAX's joined together, there seems to be a blanket assumption that each can have it's own full RAM (max) of 64GB for 128GB total, so I assume each could have its own Apple SSD (max) of 8TB for 16TB total.

Or perhaps you didn't mean to put that question mark on the end and are trying to say that a DUO would be limited to 8TB?
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The latter...

I just looked at the mobos for the M1 Mac mini and the 14"/16" MBPs; RAM is on the same package as the SoC, SSD NAND chips are on the mobo...

So no, a dual SoC configuration does not mean doubling the SSD...!

Macative said:
I think you're on the right track to be guessing Dual SOC based on this render, because that's what it looks like....something with extreme performance that we haven't seen yet.

But does the same form factor make sense for a single M1 Pro, or even a single M1 Max? I don't know.

Something feels very off here.
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The volume of the form may be a bit large for a single M1 Pro or M1 Max SoC, but it makes sense for a dual M1 Max, keep it cool and quiet...

Economy of scale will help with overall cost of the larger chassis, and I could see this Mac Studio putting a lot of units on desktops everywhere...!
 
playtech1 said:
I could see storage expansion as being a possibility, albeit fairly unlikely, since Apple could use some of the TB4 IO for an internal socket of some kind. Still think it's a long shot though.

But I think even if it's technically possible Apple won't do it because it makes $$$ from storage.
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It's a desktop with TB 4. That has all the potential for storage expansion you could ever need.
 
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