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Alleged New MacBook Pro Box Image Surfaces on China's Weibo
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At this point I think Apple is trying to catch up SoC market, it is not necessary that people actually needs that crazy performance unless you want to play games / 3d works / rendering. Gaming could be the main target, given how expensive Windows gaming pieces of hardware are.
Developer here, I would prefer the highest RAM. Found out the bottleneck I have was just RAM on my M1 Pro.
Developer here, I would prefer the highest RAM. Found out the bottleneck I have was just RAM on my M1 Pro.
I tried to do a reverse image search of the wallpaper and nothing came up, so I think it’s legit. Unless the leaker created the image.
Looks like they found my post after all. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ent-for-macs-scary-fast.2408536/post-32658227
I overexposed the leaked photo and does look like some island stuff going on up top
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Is that dynamic island? I read in the forum https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...pados-17.2406001/?post=32593377#post-32593377
I know it's not much comfort, but if you bought an M2 Pro / Max MBP and are peeved that it's already (potentially) being refreshed less than a year later, remember that the M2 Pro / Max MBP's were supposed to be released last October but weren't due to production issues.
This came to light when the video for the pre-recorded announcement of those machines had a timestamp dated 2022.
This came to light when the video for the pre-recorded announcement of those machines had a timestamp dated 2022.
I personally don't expect any design changes, but just imagine black/darker color and a Dynamic Island 😧
I think if they were really adding the island to the MacBooks the background would show it off. The 14 Pro and 15 series feature it prominently in their promo photos, unlike the notch which they always tried to hide after the X. I hope I'm wrong, though.
If this is legit, and I don't have an opinion one way or the other, doesn't the high contrast black and white image imply an updated display tech? High contrast black and white is typically a blooming test pattern. Granted it's not hard edged transitions, but this is the first time I've seen an image that doesn't promote the vibrancy of the display for a while.
An alternate view might be that the texture looks like machined titanium. Been a while since we've had a TiBook.
An alternate view might be that the texture looks like machined titanium. Been a while since we've had a TiBook.
Look at the wallpaper — the shape has an embedded “3” for M3. To be honest I think this is legit.
I really do not get this thing about redesigns here. I mean sure, it is cool to have one once in a while, but basing if one would buy a new laptop or not based on that as if it is the most important aspect of a laptop? Is it some sort of apple-specific fanbase thing?
you said it here. I, too, bet that that wallpaper reads "titanium" but I don't know anything about this
funny cos i did the same after posting this , but went a bit crazy with the sliders but i found the same conclusion as yours. this whole things feels 100% legit imho , you did a better job than me to highlight the dynamic Island. xD
Yes I think it's a big Apple fanbase specific thing. There current M series computers are fast enough so they need another carrot to justified putting it on the credit card.
That machine has feet, so it's not using the chassis of the current (Touch Bar) 13" MacBook Pro. It could be the current 14" MBP, the current 16" MBP or something new
That makes it one of three things (unless it's just a Photoshop job).
1.) A 13" "redesign" that is just putting a base M3 into the current 14" case (or a close relative - it might lose a port or two)
2.) A 13" redesign into a new chassis that shares some design language (including feet) with the 14" and 16" MBPs.
3.) Evidence of a new 14"/16" MBP (thereby a simultaneous release of M3/M3 Pro/M3 Max).
There are reasons to believe for and against all three. In favor of simply putting the base model in the 14" chassis is that the base model is due for an upgrade, the Touch Bar is all but discontinued (making the current 13" chassis unattractive), and using the 14" chassis is The Easy Way. Against that, the 14" MBP becomes quite confusing, since the base model is using a chip a step down, but also a generation newer, than the upgraded model. It becomes all the more confusing if a base M3 is anywhere close to the performance of an M2 Pro.
In favor of a redesigned base model, the 13" MBP is up for a redesign - it's an early 2020 design (the keyboard replacement came to the 13" MBP in May, 2020, and the M1 was essentially built in the final generation Intel chassis, which was only a few months old). I've never seen Apple just put an "up for a redesign" machine in another existing (and already mid-life) chassis. Against a redesigned base model, they don't really have anything very new that can do without encroaching on either the MacBook Air or the 14" MBP. They could do essentially a 13" version of the current 14" chassis, but that's pretty close spacing in display size (they have it now, but only because of the "leftover" 13" chassis).
In favor of a 14"/16" processor bump (in addition to updates at the lower end), "Scary Fast" suggests something beyond base models (someone pointed out that it was the tagline for the M1 Pro/Max). It would be a tough sell that updating the slowest machines in the lineup counts as "scary fast". If the M3 is enough faster than the M2 that the base models threaten the M2 Pro, that throws the MBP lineup into disarray (unless the Pro/Max machines are updated at the same time). If it's not, then "scary fast" means "updates to machines that aren't as fast as January's midrange laptop". Against a 14"/16" processor bump, it's awfully soon. It's not unprecedented - Apple occasionally releases updates (or machines that a buyer of the previous machine would have wanted to know about) very close together - but it's not that common.
I just looked up the chronology of all of this on EveryMac...
Original M1 (included the 13" MBP) - November 2020
M1 Pro/Max - October 2021.
M1 Ultra - March 2022
Original M2 - June 2022
M2 Pro/Max - January 2023
M2 Ultra - June 2023.
An M3 now would be around 16 months - close to the 19 month cycle from M1 to M2, and actually longer than the 15 month from M1 Ultra to M2 Ultra. Apple also likes to do Macs in October, and their next "we like to do Macs" window is around March.
The other consideration is that the iMac is an original November 2020 machine, approaching three years old. If they don't release the M3, and update the iMac to an M2, they it will be in the weird situation of having been updated right before a processor bump. If they release the M3, but ONLY in the relatively low-volume iMac, they just killed sales of all the notebooks for several months (if the M3 is any good) - many people will wait until the new processor is in their favorite Mac. They almost have to do some M3 notebooks (assuming that the "Scary Fast" invite is for Macs, which it almost has to be).
If the box is a fake, there's an easy release (and what I'd have expected) - all of the M3 Macs (or all except the Mini, since that is M2/M2 Pro), but NOT the M3 Pro/Max/Ultra models. If the box is real, the movement in the MacBook Pro line makes things a little more complex...
That makes it one of three things (unless it's just a Photoshop job).
1.) A 13" "redesign" that is just putting a base M3 into the current 14" case (or a close relative - it might lose a port or two)
2.) A 13" redesign into a new chassis that shares some design language (including feet) with the 14" and 16" MBPs.
3.) Evidence of a new 14"/16" MBP (thereby a simultaneous release of M3/M3 Pro/M3 Max).
There are reasons to believe for and against all three. In favor of simply putting the base model in the 14" chassis is that the base model is due for an upgrade, the Touch Bar is all but discontinued (making the current 13" chassis unattractive), and using the 14" chassis is The Easy Way. Against that, the 14" MBP becomes quite confusing, since the base model is using a chip a step down, but also a generation newer, than the upgraded model. It becomes all the more confusing if a base M3 is anywhere close to the performance of an M2 Pro.
In favor of a redesigned base model, the 13" MBP is up for a redesign - it's an early 2020 design (the keyboard replacement came to the 13" MBP in May, 2020, and the M1 was essentially built in the final generation Intel chassis, which was only a few months old). I've never seen Apple just put an "up for a redesign" machine in another existing (and already mid-life) chassis. Against a redesigned base model, they don't really have anything very new that can do without encroaching on either the MacBook Air or the 14" MBP. They could do essentially a 13" version of the current 14" chassis, but that's pretty close spacing in display size (they have it now, but only because of the "leftover" 13" chassis).
In favor of a 14"/16" processor bump (in addition to updates at the lower end), "Scary Fast" suggests something beyond base models (someone pointed out that it was the tagline for the M1 Pro/Max). It would be a tough sell that updating the slowest machines in the lineup counts as "scary fast". If the M3 is enough faster than the M2 that the base models threaten the M2 Pro, that throws the MBP lineup into disarray (unless the Pro/Max machines are updated at the same time). If it's not, then "scary fast" means "updates to machines that aren't as fast as January's midrange laptop". Against a 14"/16" processor bump, it's awfully soon. It's not unprecedented - Apple occasionally releases updates (or machines that a buyer of the previous machine would have wanted to know about) very close together - but it's not that common.
I just looked up the chronology of all of this on EveryMac...
Original M1 (included the 13" MBP) - November 2020
M1 Pro/Max - October 2021.
M1 Ultra - March 2022
Original M2 - June 2022
M2 Pro/Max - January 2023
M2 Ultra - June 2023.
An M3 now would be around 16 months - close to the 19 month cycle from M1 to M2, and actually longer than the 15 month from M1 Ultra to M2 Ultra. Apple also likes to do Macs in October, and their next "we like to do Macs" window is around March.
The other consideration is that the iMac is an original November 2020 machine, approaching three years old. If they don't release the M3, and update the iMac to an M2, they it will be in the weird situation of having been updated right before a processor bump. If they release the M3, but ONLY in the relatively low-volume iMac, they just killed sales of all the notebooks for several months (if the M3 is any good) - many people will wait until the new processor is in their favorite Mac. They almost have to do some M3 notebooks (assuming that the "Scary Fast" invite is for Macs, which it almost has to be).
If the box is a fake, there's an easy release (and what I'd have expected) - all of the M3 Macs (or all except the Mini, since that is M2/M2 Pro), but NOT the M3 Pro/Max/Ultra models. If the box is real, the movement in the MacBook Pro line makes things a little more complex...
If the picture is real along with the rumor, I think it is safe to say such news has elicited a Pavlovian response by the MBP fan club.
Yes, but we haven't seen pricing on new models yet. I bought a specced-out 16" MBP M1 Max over the Summer and am not worried. Tech always marches forward. I am intrigued by the M3 announcement but am not suffering any buyers remorse...or shall I say "not yet", lol.
Agreed, the 2021 redesign was a regression from the 2017 design. Adding back the ports(instead of the streamlined 4 Thunderbolt), adding the notch, taking away the touch bar are things that make it feel like an older design
Agreed, the notch is something that feels so backwards now that iPhones are now moving away from it. (Not to mention the lack of Face ID in all that space is really confusing).
Confusing that the notch is there without it, but also at this point it seems like they'll try to redesign for a dynamic island of some kind before they even do face ID making it more redundant.
Isn't that what everyone has been bragging about is that surely there's no way they'd drop support for M1 like they are Intel Macs right now.
Considering M2 Pro/Max/Ultra all released earlier this year and the current MacBook Pro design is only 9 months old, it still doesn't make sense they're upgrading these again already, wonder what happened to the base M3 to be so behind, or were really being misled.