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I hate the toggle. Nice to see it finally gone if it is. I like that it's there on the outside, but it's the part that gets the most wear and tear on my devices.

I strongly disagree. The home button is the one that gets the most wear and tear. After a year or two of use it gets a little bit loose.
 
Are you kidding me? I drop my phone way too often to justify going without a case. That isn't an option for the majority of iPhone users. I always go thin profile, but it's still a problem.

Solution: Take care of a $699-899 item.

Never will I understand how people proudly go about saying 'OH I DROP MY PHONE ALL THE TIME!' It is not a good thing. It is a sign of clumsiness and of blasé - neither of which are endearing qualities.
 
I think a toggle is BETTER than a button - not as easily pressed accidently. Plus, I can see the little orange color easier on a toggle to know that it's in silent/vibrate mode.

Of course, you'll get the snarky Samsung commercials about all the Apple fans waiting in line for a 'button instead of a toggle', and the Samsung sheep will eat it up.

Wow, talk about Android obsessed iPhone users.

We're looking at iPhone parts here. The last thing that enters my mind is Android.

Why so paranoid?
 
I think they could do something different to the vibrate switch. If I had a pound for everytime my iPhone 4 had switched itself off of vibrate in my pocket... Dunno if the iPhone 5 does that, but it's definitely an issue with the 4 and 4S. But the vibrate on/off switch is something which is very iconic to the iPhone and I wouldn't mind if they didn't change it.
 
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you get wear and tear on your toggle button...... :confused:

I like that I can tell from feel in my pocket whether it's muted or not.

Funny enough, yes. I use it A LOT. When I'm in class, when I don't want to be bothered, and when I'm out shopping/having dinner or whatever.

I strongly disagree. The home button is the one that gets the most wear and tear. After a year or two of use it gets a little bit loose.

I've never had issues with my home button for whatever reason.
 
There are two things I don't like about the iPhone:

1. two buttons for volume, which are impossible to locate (at least the one you are looking for) without looking or in the dark
2. The mute swith which has to be pushed in the opposite direction as the length of the iPhone itself.

So a push switch to mute would be welcome, now the volume buttons integrated in one switch please.

Couldn't disagree more. I can easily find my volume buttons, and know which is which while in my pocket. And the mute switch is pretty much perfect the way it is, thank you. Or, if not perfect, at least better than the idea of a push button. Again, I can easily tell what position it's in when it's in my pocket, and I have rarely, if ever accidentally engaged it.

Have never pushed one of the volume buttons incidently......

Yes. Many times. And it doesn't hurt much. But a incidental, unaware push of a mute button could be bad. Very bad.
 
I think a toggle is BETTER than a button - not as easily pressed accidently. Plus, I can see the little orange color easier on a toggle to know that it's in silent/vibrate mode.
My First thought. Mentioned by others, I've never hit the volume buttons on accident however. 5 years of use. I do really like to see the orange though, very convenient.

Maybe it will be too thin for a toggle.
Possible, but man I hope not. i5 is pushing it IMO; it wouldnt be comfortable (for me) if it was any lighter.

its likely a dedicated camera shutter button and the silent switch will be moved
I use the volume buttons to take every photo ever. That doesn't seem practical to me.

I'm hoping the "Significantly longer cable" statement points to a larger screen...
 
If you want an ugly big screen, plenty of cheap androids out there for you.
Nothing beats the 4's 3.5 screen for your hand and pocket

Apple can make more than one size you know. There's nothing wrong with giving consumers a choice which is something apple has yet to do with the iPhone.
 
An on/off toggle switch gives you 2 options, and only 2 options.
A push button potentially allows you to toggle through multiple options or "profiles". With the right implentation this is an improvement.

Think about it.

Right, plus you can't change the state of a toggle switch from software.

The current system of having do not disturb and mute/un-mute as separate functions could be combined into something simpler.
 
I hate the toggle. Nice to see it finally gone if it is. I like that it's there on the outside, but it's the part that gets the most wear and tear on my devices.

Really? I would hate having a button. With the toggle I can just look at the device (Or even feel it in my pocket) to determine if it is on vibrate/ringer. With a button it would require looking at the screen to know the state, and could be hit accidentally much easier.

I guess it might be okay if you have to hold it to change state. Then you could allow for software switching of the state which could be nice I guess. But I still like the switch though.
 
An on/off toggle switch gives you 2 options, and only 2 options.
A push button potentially allows you to toggle through multiple options or "profiles". With the right implentation this is an improvement.

Think about it.

And the option to break or get worn out from repeated use.

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If you want an ugly big screen, plenty of cheap androids out there for you.
Nothing beats the 4's 3.5 screen for your hand and pocket

Nothing wrong with multiple form factors which we not have with 4/4s and 5/5s
 
I actually quite like the mute switch as it is today :(

I do to.

I've never accidentally moved it. At least on my iPhone 5 it takes a deliberate push to switch it. Along with the orange indicator it's ideal.

Perhaps that's the problem :eek:

Apple tends to focus on some of the oddest things :)
 
Solution: Take care of a $699-899 item.

Never will I understand how people proudly go about saying 'OH I DROP MY PHONE ALL THE TIME!' It is not a good thing. It is a sign of clumsiness and of blasé - neither of which are endearing qualities.

You can't control other people. I take stellar care of my phone, but it still manages to get knocked out of my hand. Accidents happen. Phones drop all the time no matter how careful you are.

Taking care of a 699-899 item includes putting a case on it.

No need to comment on the poster's endearingness.
 
There are two things I don't like about the iPhone:

1. two buttons for volume, which are impossible to locate (at least the one you are looking for) without looking or in the dark
2. The mute swith which has to be pushed in the opposite direction as the length of the iPhone itself.

So a push switch to mute would be welcome, now the volume buttons integrated in one switch please.

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Have never pushed one of the volume buttons incidently......

Yep. I agree. We need a better toggle. I can't use the current one with just one hand. (Clumsy I guess).
 
While it's physically convenient to have the mute switch, it's very limiting in other ways. With a push button mute switch Apple can do things like mute your phone on a schedule (work, school hours, calendar events, etc) or based on location (work, school, church, etc.). Maybe some day instead of asking everyone to silence their phones at the beginning of a concert they will instead emit a wireless signal to request silencing all devices in range. I've been wanting these obvious capabilities on my phone for years.
All of these concepts become sloppy with a physical mute button that can't change itself.
 
I wonder if the button instead of switch is better able to resist water. I'd like to see apple incorporate better native water resistance in the phones.

- too many openings that can fry a phone, including g the big 'ol headphone jack - couldn't that have a gloop of silicone stopping water from getting to circuit ut board.
 
Never will I understand how people proudly go about saying 'OH I DROP MY PHONE ALL THE TIME!' It is not a good thing. It is a sign of clumsiness and of blasé - neither of which are endearing qualities.
(Insert slow clap)

Wow, talk about Android obsessed iPhone users.

We're looking at iPhone parts here. The last thing that enters my mind is Android.

Why so paranoid?
#1) He said samsung, not Android. Android is software, we're talking hardware. What you mean is HTC, LG, Motorola, ETC.

#2) Android/HTC/LG/MOTO/ETC enter(s) my mind almost every time I read hardware news or have a conversation about iPhone/iOS. It's not paranoia, it's common sense. You (should) instinctively compare things against each other. It's more about seeing what is done differently elsewhere, and how you might be able to improve upon it. It's also not copying, or emulation. It's just how things are done. otherwise there would be no growth.
 
its likely a dedicated camera shutter button and the silent switch will be moved

A dedicated shutter button right next to the volume up button that can already act as a shutter release? Unless it has a pre-focus function, that would be completely pointless.
 
Not that Apple would decide based on 3rd party cases, but I know there are cases out there where the toggle is hard to reach because of the case. That being said, I'd rather a toggle because I don't know how you'd be able to tell if it's on ringer or vibrate w/o the orange strip...
 
Maybe some day instead of asking everyone to silence their phones at the beginning of a concert they will instead emit a wireless signal to request silencing all devices in range. I've been wanting these obvious capabilities on my phone for years
Why in god's name would you want to yield to these kinds of intrusive capabilities? There is no way the public would allow forced control of their ringer.
 
An on/off toggle switch gives you 2 options, and only 2 options.
A push button potentially allows you to toggle through multiple options or "profiles". With the right implentation this is an improvement.

Think about it.

I don't think so. Phones used to have 4 or 5 different 'profiles' and iPhone simplified it by a single button, and this simplicity made it easier.

A button will be a downgrade, not an upgrade.
 
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