Alleged Parts for Upcoming iPhone Leak Again, Mute Switch to Become Push Button?

[XboxMySocks]

Taking care of a 699-899 item includes putting a case on it.

Phone since launch day, completely unscathed, no case. If you take care of yourself and don't have your phone out when it could get smashed out of your hand eek: ?) it will be fine.

No need to comment on the poster's endearingness.

Ah, a valid point. I meant less to comment on his personal endearment than on the reservations I have in general for people who proudly proclaim they drop their phones often.

 

[curmudgeon32]

An on/off toggle switch gives you 2 options, and only 2 options.
A push button potentially allows you to toggle through multiple options or "profiles". With the right implentation this is an improvement.

Think about it.

The last thing I want to do when reaching into my pocket to make sure my phone is on silent is to start fiddling with menus and profies and crap. There is a lot of value in having a switch that has one predicatable function you can change without looking at the device at all.

 

[Tankmaze]

If you want an ugly big screen, plenty of cheap androids out there for you.
Nothing beats the 4's 3.5 screen for your hand and pocket

I want big screen, but there is no android handset that have iphone's fit and finish quality and also that premium feel. The xperia z turns to be a dissapointment, and the only hope is the new htc one which doesnt come out yet.

One size doesnt fit all....

So if only apple would come out with a little bigger phone ranging 4.3 - 4.7 inch, I would be a happy camper.

 

[rGiskard]

Dual-head vibrator? Why doesn't Apple just release a Bluetooth unit for phone sex and be done with it?

 

[OrangeSVTguy]

I've always liked the sliding switch on the iPads over the iPhones. Especially if you have a case on your iPhone, it's hard to switch it on/off.

 

[bbeagle]

Wow, talk about Android obsessed iPhone users.

We're looking at iPhone parts here. The last thing that enters my mind is Android.

Why so paranoid?

Because this is EXACTLY how Samsung advertised against the last iPhone. 'Oooo! They moved the headphone jack all the way to the bottom!'

Nothing paranoid at all, because it actually happened, and definately WILL happen. Have you never seen the Samsung user posts on this forum? It's pretty ridiculous.

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Apple can make more than one size you know. There's nothing wrong with giving consumers a choice which is something apple has yet to do with the iPhone.

What choice does Samsung give you? The Galaxy does not come in a 3.5" size.

 

[lifeinhd]

Solution: Take care of a $699-899 item.

Never will I understand how people proudly go about saying 'OH I DROP MY PHONE ALL THE TIME!' It is not a good thing. It is a sign of clumsiness and of blasé - neither of which are endearing qualities.

I agree. I've had my iPhone 5 since launch day and never had a case. Honestly there's just a couple nicks on the chamfer and that's it. People ask me all the time why I don't have a case, and I say "I don't drop it." "What if you do it by accident?" "I don't do that." I'd rather see my iPhone nekkid since its so purdy

In fact of every product I own (not just Apple), the only one I have a case on is my iPad, and that's only because I have an iPad 1 and it won't sit still while typing otherwise

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What choice does Samsung give you? The Galaxy does not come in a 3.5" size.

They do make phones besides the Galaxy you know.

 

[gatearray]

Why?? Nothing is wrong with the toggle.

except that its one of the parts that breaks quite often, resulting in upset customers, Genius Bar appointments, and replaced phones which costs $$$.

I strongly disagree. The home button is the one that gets the most wear and tear. After a year or two of use it gets a little bit loose.

this may have been more true in the past, but the new "flared base" design on the iPhone 5 home button mitigates this long-standing issue significantly, thus reducing the afore-mentioned warranty repairs and customer aggravation.

while on the subject, I feel quite sure that repair issues played a large part in getting rid of the optical drives in the iMac, etc.— not only do most people hardly ever use the things these days, but when you did need to use it once or twice a year, often it had already died from neglect.

if a part in your product is prone to breaking from "normal use" then it's ripe for a re-design, even if that means flat out removal, as in the case of waning interest in optical media.

 

[Antares]

Toggle fanboys vs button fanboys. Let the fight begin!

I’m really used to the toggle and like it…but I would personally need to see how the button works before I completely dismiss it.

 

[JAT]

Exactly. I've really come to miss the ability to quickly mute my phone as I could on my old Android, so I'd like to see pressing it go to vibrate->silent->volume. Maybe even allow a long press or a double press to play/pause as another poster suggested.

Oh, I hate that kind of system. Not sure how you can think being forced to look at the screen scrolling through one-button choices is faster than a simple switch. Another vote for a switch, here. One of my favorite things about the iPhone.

Although I do agree with an earlier post that it faces the wrong way. Should move parallel to the phone's length.

 

[ConCat]

Have never pushed one of the volume buttons incidently......

I doubt most people would know if they accidentally pushed the volume buttons. If your phone gets accidentally put into vibrate mode, you could miss calls. Apple had the vibrate switch a switch for a really good reason, and I don't see why they'd mess with that. Of course, this may not even be the vibrate switch, or it's possible that the switch has gone virtual.

 

[XboxMySocks]

"I don't drop it." "What if you do it by accident?" "I don't do that."

Omg hahahaha, my life exactly. "What if you drop it?!" "I don't."

 

[teknikal90]

you get wear and tear on your toggle button......

I like that I can tell from feel in my pocket whether it's muted or not.

you need a 35 1.4L

 

[mmberry1]

Because this is EXACTLY how Samsung advertised against the last iPhone. 'Oooo! They moved the headphone jack all the way to the bottom!'

Nothing paranoid at all, because it actually happened, and definately WILL happen. Have you never seen the Samsung user posts on this forum? It's pretty ridiculous.

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What choice does Samsung give you? The Galaxy does not come in a 3.5" size.

Who said anything about Samsung? I have had every iPhone released and all I'm saying is choice is a good thing.

 

[mrobit]

It's their answer to the whole 'we have to have buttons for toggling wifi etc'

A quick tap is your mute/rotation lock but hold it and you going into settings mode. Volume buttons take you from setting to setting and you tap to toggle.

Or perhaps there is no home button on the screen face and this is the new home button

My issue with this is the fact that assigning too many actions to one button is unintuitive. You don't have to "think" about what to do when you want to set your phone on vibrate, you just do it because it's a switch.

 

[brunerd]

Button state

The advantage to a button for me, is that I'll put the phone on silent for something and then forgot to turn it off, missing a call later.

A button would enable the mute state to be changed in software without the confusion of a physical toggle that doesn't correspond to the state.

That is: Apple currently has Do Not Disturb, which can mute the phone at a time and unmute later, however looking at the toggle you might be confused as to which state it's in, you'd have to turn the phone on and check for the crescent moon. Doing away with a toggle, means there is only one place to check for ringer state: the screen.

I see this as a way of making the ringer smarter, getting rid of a physical indication of functionality that might be overridden in software. To think of what's possible: You could press (and hold?) the button to mute it, it'll vibrate. Then there could be a setting "Auto unMute after x hours" which would be handy for the movies or other times when you only need it to be silenced for a short time or out drinking and you know you won't remember to unmute . Or integrate with Passbook and Fandango: "Auto mute when I arrive at [movies]" conversely, "UnMute when I leave the [movies]"

Progress!

 

[ActionableMango]

Oh, I hate that kind of system. Not sure how you can think being forced to look at the screen scrolling through one-button choices is faster than a simple switch. Another vote for a switch, here. One of my favorite things about the iPhone.

As a person who needs to switch between the two a lot, I pay a lot of attention to this feature.

In the old days of analog cell phones and early digital cell phones, I remember having to dig through menus just to switch mute on and off. Very inconvenient.

Nokia finally got it to the point where you could switch mute fairly easily by clicking through on screen choices without having to unlock the phone. That was a huge step forward.

But then the iPhone came out with it's physical switch and man I cannot tell you how much I appreciate that. I can instantly switch modes and/or instantly tell which mode it is in, all by feel. I appreciate that switch a lot.

 

[lifeinhd]

Oh, I hate that kind of system. Not sure how you can think being forced to look at the screen scrolling through one-button choices is faster than a simple switch. Another vote for a switch, here. One of my favorite things about the iPhone.

Although I do agree with an earlier post that it faces the wrong way. Should move parallel to the phone's length.

Actually on my old Droid Eris you could do it without looking. Pressing volume down beyond the lowest volume setting would set it to mute, then vibrate, and it would vibrate once you hit vibrate. So if you're fumbling in your pocket and want to set it to mute, you'd simply hold the volume down until you felt it vibrate, then bring it up a notch. The obvious drawback of course being it's hard to set an exact volume level from your pocket.

 

[Krauser]

Something big needs to happen with the next iPhone. If they're seriously contemplating launching another S series device instead of a new redesigned phone with some legitimate new reasons to buy the hardware, they better make iOS 7 worth my, and the rest of consumer's, time.

I doubt either of those are going to happen and the growing quality of Android and the devices that are beginning to launch with a hardware quality just as high as Apple's (my friends Droid Razr Maxx HD is one of the most solid phones I've ever held and I won't even get started with the quality of the HTC One as a piece of hardware), it's going to be hard to keep my interest with another iPhone. Yeah I have a Mac and yes I use iTunes and that ecosystem, but that's almost irrelevant at this point. Integration is no longer an issue with apps like Doubletwist, the focus on the cloud, etc. Apple needs to do something big. An iterative update to a phone that was already proceeded by a phone nobody really wanted an iterative update to wouldn't be a good idea in my opinion.

TL;DR - Apple needs to stop resting on its laurels and launch a brand new phone with some truly new and interesting hardware or make iOS 7 a real powerhouse to compete with how excellent the newer builds of Android have become.

 

[lokey]

The last thing I want to do when reaching into my pocket to make sure my phone is on silent is to start fiddling with menus and profies and crap. There is a lot of value in having a switch that has one predicatable function you can change without looking at the device at all.

I wouldn't have to do anything more with it other than allow it to be an on/off toggle by default. If you allow the software to do the work you could make it be simply on/off or toggle thru various profiles, or maybe even a long press to bring up numerous options.

Again, a 1-2 switch gives you 2 options, a button gives you many possibilities.

 

[monaarts]

I think it could open a new door of awesomeness if they do it correctly. What I think they should do is turn it into a switch with a button (think magic trackpad style). The switch works as it currently does but when you push and hold the switch for a second it opens a menu, whether that menu be the notification tray or something new. I would prefer it to open some sort of dashboard where widgets, including setting toggles, can be stored along with recently opened apps and a preview of what is running on those apps.

 

[Jynto]

 

[subsonix]

The toggle switch is superior, you can set and unset it in the pocket and get feedback about it's position without looking at the phone or interacting with the software interface.

A non latching push button switch lacks this feed back, and adding several functions to the same button is even worse.

 

[Trius]

1. two buttons for volume, which are impossible to locate (at least the one you are looking for) without looking or in the dark

Are you being sarcastic? Because It could not be easier to feel which button is which while in my pocket...

 

[osaga]

Maybe it will be too thin for a toggle.

Exactly! Maybe this is for the cheapy iphone with a thin curved back. Or just maybe they're skipping the 5s.

I doubt they'd add a button for a camera shutter, and i doubt they'd change the toggle switch without good reason.