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Thanks, Apple? Apple didn't announce nor confirm any of that...

If this rumor was several months ago, I might not believe it, but the phone is likely in production stage and the rumor is likely true. It is coming from a rather reliable source.
 
Which chump is writing this article? Even someone *not* well versed in electronics and computing ICs will know that "DDR" stands for "Double Data Rate" and will also know that it is a type of RAM, not NAND.

Wow... I thought this forum was run by clever people.
 
You are right. Nobody but the saddest of fanboys cares about Apple anymore. Samsung already won the war.

Reloading webpages is an unforgivable sin. It's why Apple are losing huge amounts of money and will be bankrupt soon.

Nailed it.

Every good thing that Apple does is being done by every other manufacturer; every bad thing that Apple does is uniquely Apple. That seems to be the mantra of many MacRumors users.

Oh, and latch on to every negative rumor like your life depends on it.
 
Oh, and latch on to every negative rumor like your life depends on it.

Sadly, the lives of many people on this forum consist of looking forward to the next consumer electronics product release, debating it prior to the event, then bemoaning its shortcomings after the fact, then the cycle repeats itself infinitely - that IS ALL they can see they have in their lives to look forward to and to sustain them... I sincerely pity them. You may notice that to be the case, and you might help identify who those people are by viewing their post history/frequency and the tone with which they react to perfectly civilised and respectful member's comments.
 
Alright guys looks like we can stop ranting now.

Update 7:19 AM: As noted in our forums, the schematic's references DDR and NAND suggests that it more likely refers to some aspect of the device's flash memory rather than DRAM included within the A8 chip.​

*phew*, I was really beginning to believe that the iPhone 6 would only ship with 1 measly GB of RAM. Thank the Apple gods (old and new)!

It's your lucky day! It will ship with 1GB of flash!
 
Nobody needs this.

If you're going to add the 99th post to a thread, you really should read some of the dozens before yours that explain specifically why so many users need this.

Must be why iPhone users statistically use more data than their android counterparts.

Constantly reloading the data in tabs would use a hell of a lot more data, wouldn't it?

I see nothing wrong with my iphone closing every app and reopening it every time I switch between them.

This must be sarcasm, right? Please clarify.

I countered that with data that iPhone users notoriously use more Internet.

Technically the study didn't say more internet, it said more data. And constantly reloading tabs doe use more data.
 
I think they will have 2 GB RAM

Don't know if someone's already mentioned it (I won't read through all pages in this thread) but I think the iOS devices released this year will have 2 GB RAM. Way too much ”Low Memory” crashes on the current devices. Might get better in iOS 8, but I really think the devices need at least 2 GB anyway.

I long for the day when an app on a mobile device will be the way it was when you left it upon switching back (without refreshing) in the same way it does on a computer. Perhaps in a few years.
 
Or, they might have a clue and aren't concerned with running 5 apps at the same time without them refreshing because it really doesn't "greatly increase" their "productivity".

You can argue all you want, and as zealously as you want (as you are right now) but people with more experience and knowledge than you don't agree.

Look at the Andantech review of the iPhones 5s. It is a problem, and they state so. It is only going to get worse. The iPad air has the same problem...and when safari crashed, and you loose all your tabs, its problematic. Power users? What about normal people? My wife was pissed yesterday when all her tabs, as she was shopping for a bed set, crashed because she had six tabs open. Memory is the problem.

You can say it will lessen battery...but all the android phones can do it, remain thin, and have great battery life. So apple should be able to, right?

I had the iPhone 5s for almost a year, and sold it in anticipate for the iPhone 6. I have an lg g3. The memory difference is very noticeable when multitasking and web surfing with multiple tabs. It is noticeable for even a normal user, or a power user.

I hope this new is wrong, because it will make me question consider alternatives, or even keeping the lg g3 (great phone thus far).
 
If this rumor was several months ago, I might not believe it, but the phone is likely in production stage and the rumor is likely true. It is coming from a rather reliable source.

Bro, check the MacRumors article. They updated it saying that it's a schematic from the flash storage device, NOT the RAM.
 
... it's a schematic from the flash storage device, NOT the RAM.

Your comment makes no sense; a schematic "from the flash storage device"? Are you saying it's a schematic that was stored on a flash drive, prior to becoming part of a "news" (and I use the term generously) article? :p

An electronic schematic is an overview of electronic components, showing how they interconnect. I presume you meant "It's a schematic showing the area of the circuit containing the flash storage device"?

In either case, the IC shown is very obviously DDR memory, based on the fact that it is entitled "DDR", and in no way is there any reference to storage, flash or otherwise.
 
haha. yeah right. Here's the performance specs...quote me. "Twice as fast as the 5s".

Twice as fast doing what? Falling from an airplane? Because I'm pretty sure they'd be about the same speed in that situation. If anything, the Note's greater surface area could reduce it's speed considerably, depending on if it were tumbling or not.
 
Apple may be a 'premium product', but they have never competed on terms of 'being the ones with the biggest specs' (possibly with exception of the Mac Pro). It just isn't what they do.

But it goes beyond just being "specs". I have to decide what music, photos and videos and apps I want on me because 64gb is a paltry amount in 2014.

With Ram it's not just a "spec" but having to reload apps when multitasking, praying to the gods that the tweet you were composing won't be lost because you went to find an URL to copy into it.

These are things that are now negatively affecting the user experience, which is/was what Apple is/was about.
 
Great. I own an iPad Air and the RAM is just insufficient.
Apps keep reloading while multitasking . I often lose progress and need to retype stuff, like for instance I was searching tyres on ebay and set all the parameters for my car .
I switched to safari to look up something. Switched back to ebay and it relaunched the ebay app and I had to do all the search again.

That's just two (!) apps ....

But I guess its ok for the iSheep. Clearly I am using the device wrong. And 1 GB of RAM is more than enough.
But if apple releases an iphone 6s with 2 GB RAM. Then we will praise them to heaven... The competition will have at least 3GB RAM by the time, but you know... 2GB will be more than enough right? ....

You do realize how apps behave in that situation are determined by the app developer and not iOS right? I play Subway Surfers on my iphone and when I switch away to another task and come back it resumes where I was and I can guarantee you that game uses more RAM than your precious eBay App.

- iSheep
 
But it goes beyond just being "specs". I have to decide what music, photos and videos and apps I want on me because 64gb is a paltry amount in 2014.

With Ram it's not just a "spec" but having to reload apps when multitasking, praying to the gods that the tweet you were composing won't be lost because you went to find an URL to copy into it.

These are things that are now negatively affecting the user experience, which is/was what Apple is/was about.


Really? What on earth are you doing with all that storage? I think you may be exaggerating for effect.
 
Your comment makes no sense; a schematic "from the flash storage device"? Are you saying it's a schematic that was stored on a flash drive, prior to becoming part of a "news" (and I use the term generously) article? :p

An electronic schematic is an overview of electronic components, showing how they interconnect. I presume you meant "It's a schematic showing the area of the circuit containing the flash storage device"?

In either case, the IC shown is very obviously DDR memory, based on the fact that it is entitled "DDR", and in no way is there any reference to storage, flash or otherwise.

Update 7:19 AM: As noted in our forums, the schematic's references DDR and NAND suggests that it more likely refers to some aspect of the device's flash memory rather than DRAM included within the A8 chip.

The post states it's flash storage.
 
I think apple is missing the point of how many decisions are made on word of mouth from superusers like ourselves. Regular people who don't pay attention to this stuff come to us for advice on what to buy. If they lose us they lose big in the long run. Pandering to idiots with Beats and ignoring superuser demands for RAM is a losing strategy.
First, no, the superuser community for smartphones demanding obscene amounts of RAM for the iPhone just isn't that big, and they've largely already moved to Android.

Second, a lot of you guys are stuck in this PC mentality that more RAM = faster phone. But in the mobile space this just isn't true anymore. iOS is so vastly more efficient than most android devices (especially Samsung's skins) that it can and easily does make do with less RAM. It looks like Apple is still going to go with more than 1GB RAM, but the truth is that they really don't need to. Most mobile apps just don't use very much RAM especially on the iPhone.
 
The 1GB storage makes more sense based on the iOS8 direction.

Fill your library, not your device.

iCloud Photo Library helps you make the most of the space available on your iOS device, so you can spend more time shooting pictures and less time managing them.

;)
 
Sadly, the lives of many people on this forum consist of looking forward to the next consumer electronics product release, debating it prior to the event, then bemoaning its shortcomings after the fact, then the cycle repeats itself infinitely - that IS ALL they can see they have in their lives to look forward to and to sustain them... I sincerely pity them. You may notice that to be the case, and you might help identify who those people are by viewing their post history/frequency and the tone with which they react to perfectly civilised and respectful member's comments.

Exactly.

Disagreeing with a decision that Apple has made is not an issue at all. But why does it seem like many who disagree with Apple can't do so without getting emotional and throwing out hyperboles? If everyone who threatened to switch to Android actually did so, this place would be much calmer. After all, if Apple is really causing that much emotional strife in someone's life, they should cut Apple out of their lives.

And for the record, I am of the opinion that Apple needs to put 2 GB of RAM in the 2014 iOS devices. But I'll manage to live if they don't.
 
This looks like a NAND Flash Chip, not DRAM, based on the nets names.
"AP_TO_NAND" application processor to NAND and "AP_BI_NAND" application processor to & from NAND
NAND flash chips use double data rate so that is why it says DDR.
I wouldn't panic over this leak because it says nothing about the application processor's DRAM.

I thought I saw that on my mobile this morning but couldn't tell.

This creates some issues: 1 GB density won't happen with NAND. The least they would see is 16GB at the package level. There are multiple dies inside the package, but no point in sharing the schematic of that (nor would a third party have access to it unless they manufactured the NAND packages).

I'm also intrigued by the "POP" in the device identifier. I would assume it's referring to package on package, which would be applicable to DRAM and not NAND (unless that's how they refer to their packaging technique, which would be new to me). Just seems all around odd.
 
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How a device works is more important than what is inside. You will have a couple of weeks to decide if you like your IPhone 6. Please step down from your soapboxes and move on.
 
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