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Great. I own an iPad Air and the RAM is just insufficient.
Apps keep reloading while multitasking . I often lose progress and need to retype stuff, like for instance I was searching tyres on ebay and set all the parameters for my car .
I switched to safari to look up something. Switched back to ebay and it relaunched the ebay app and I had to do all the search again.

That's just two (!) apps ....

But I guess its ok for the iSheep. Clearly I am using the device wrong. And 1 GB of RAM is more than enough.
But if apple releases an iphone 6s with 2 GB RAM. Then we will praise them to heaven... The competition will have at least 3GB RAM by the time, but you know... 2GB will be more than enough right? ....

Ur just holding it rong.

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My Macbook Pro has 16gb of system memory. Whats your point?

That maybe it's time for iOS devices to get more memory? I mean, I'm not genius but I think I worked it out.
 
"Chart"? That's an electronic schematic of a POP ("Package On Package") RAM chip - it is not a "chart", and showing an isolated area of a HUGE schematic, showing a RAM chip, proves what, exactly?

POP RAM is a RAM chip BGA reflowed on top of another IC - it's hardly new, OR exclusive to Apple. Raspberry Pi uses this design, too.

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This cropped area of a schematic could come FROM ANY PRODUCT...

Macrumors, you're a plum.

Move along now...
 
Great. I own an iPad Air and the RAM is just insufficient.
Apps keep reloading while multitasking . I often lose progress and need to retype stuff, like for instance I was searching tyres on ebay and set all the parameters for my car .
I switched to safari to look up something. Switched back to ebay and it relaunched the ebay app and I had to do all the search again.

That's just two (!) apps ....

But I guess its ok for the iSheep. Clearly I am using the device wrong. And 1 GB of RAM is more than enough.
But if apple releases an iphone 6s with 2 GB RAM. Then we will praise them to heaven... The competition will have at least 3GB RAM by the time, but you know... 2GB will be more than enough right? ....
This is exactly my issue as well. While Apple goes to great lengths to make the user experience as fluid as possible, the problem with still having 1GB of RAM is really starting to show. I experience the same problem of apps needing to refresh or "reopen" when multitasking and it causes issues. They need to bump it up.
 
1GB is simply terrible.

1GB RAM and 16GB storage should not even be options on a premium device in 2014.

Completely agree. But if you complain about size then you'll be told to switch your lifestyle from storing music, photos and videos, to streaming them from various other sources.

My kingdom for a 128gb iPhone, decent battery life and more memory. Apple are supposed to be the premium brand in this but I'm having to make way too many compromises.
 
This will be disappointing if true. I have been eyeing the LG G3 with it's 5.5" screen with small bezels, 32GB storage + Micro SD and it comes with 3GB of RAM.
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If Apple does go with 1GB RAM, they better have some new irresistible features to keep me interested or I might be switching back to Android. (I go back and forth. I love both platforms.)
 
More RAM does use more power, it is a factor. But not one worth the headache IMO. Would much rather have a slightly heavier, slightly thicker phone that accommodates more RAM.

From a developer perspective, supporting older devices with minimal RAM is a nightmare. Just finished an iOS7 game and it was an infuriating experience trying to get everything to work without crashing due to memory pressure on iPhone 4 and particularly iPad 3/4. Low memory warnings all over the place, even after I stripped my graphics to the bone. And if you use iAd it gets worse because that requires its own not-insignificant chunk of RAM every time an interstitial is displayed.

Remember that devices introduced today are going to be the older devices a few years from now. which means they are just perpetuating the problem for future generations, for both developers and users.

That must be hard. But it is also good that you are programming to run on iPad 3. That device should still be supported.

I also believe that this next larger phone is going to have a four plus year life cycle. Two + years with its first user, then two + years with its second user. Maybe even then a life in third world countries. Just like my iPhone 4 is being used by my Mom with no thought by her of replacing it. But if it doesn't break, maybe it eventually ends up in the third world. So ideally this would be a 2 GB phone for extended use. I don't know how much extra power that would use, but it would help with running the OS in four years.
 
Great. I own an iPad Air and the RAM is just insufficient.
Apps keep reloading while multitasking . I often lose progress and need to retype stuff, like for instance I was searching tyres on ebay and set all the parameters for my car .
I switched to safari to look up something. Switched back to ebay and it relaunched the ebay app and I had to do all the search again.

That's just two (!) apps ....

But I guess its ok for the iSheep. Clearly I am using the device wrong. And 1 GB of RAM is more than enough.
But if apple releases an iphone 6s with 2 GB RAM. Then we will praise them to heaven... The competition will have at least 3GB RAM by the time, but you know... 2GB will be more than enough right? ....

Exactly! Same thing happens to me when i am typing something and check another website for verification. It reloads and loses all my progress. As you said, thats only with two tabs open.

"Great user experience" lololol
 
Um fake!

The DDR is stacked inside the Apple CPU and wouldn't be shown in the iPhone schematic.
 
The difference in cost between a 1GB chip and a 2GB chip is about $1 - $2 in quantities of 2500, and in the quantities that Apple is purchasing it would be less.

I would agree with folks saying that 1GB is not sufficient anymore. Remember that Apple's user experience does not yet offer true multi-tasking. I imagine they will up the RAM about the time they offer multi-tasking and say that they can only offer this on those models and use it as a forced upgrade path, when they could be offering this extra RAM all along for an extra buck.

They will not offer true multi-tasking in a phone because of battery life. Or at least not with current technology. Multi-tasking is very tricky. You can forget and leave something running in the background and then kill your battery.
 
Um fake!

The DDR is stacked inside the Apple CPU and wouldn't be shown in the iPhone schematic.

So, a schematic that intentionally misses out a part? Maybe you haven't grasped the purposes for which schematics are produced? That would be like having a map of Paris, but missing out the Eiffel Tower.

Since iPhone schematics - especially this one (if it's even real) are private, how are you qualified to comment on what would or wouldn't be shown, on something noone has seen?

LOL!
 
They will not offer true multi-tasking in a phone because of battery life. Or at least not with current technology. Multi-tasking is very tricky. You can forget and leave something running in the background and then kill your battery.

See the mockups. We're talking about side-by-side multitasking, not something running in the background.
 
This looks like a NAND Flash Chip, not DRAM, based on the nets names.
"AP_TO_NAND" application processor to NAND and "AP_BI_NAND" application processor to & from NAND
NAND flash chips use double data rate so that is why it says DDR.
I wouldn't panic over this leak because it says nothing about the application processor's DRAM.

So, hopefully, it'll ship with 2GB of RAM?
 
It doesn't matter if it's one chip, it's the number of transistors that will use more power. Twice as much in this case. This is simply the way volatile memory works.

Okay... but you're still talking about micro-amps in the power-down cycle, which would be standby. I don't think that is too much of a burden.
 
You don't think they will be a price increase?

There will be. Bigger screen, 4.7-inch, not the 5.5-inch as that doesn't exist, bigger battery, better camera's, improved Touch ID sensor and MAYBE sapphire glass.

More phone = more money. It's simple.

Oh, the price will go up alright.


I don't remember the price going up when they introduced the 4" iPhone 5. If the price does go up, that might be a dealbreaker for me.
 
This looks like a NAND Flash Chip, not DRAM, based on the nets names.
"AP_TO_NAND" application processor to NAND and "AP_BI_NAND" application processor to & from NAND
NAND flash chips use double data rate so that is why it says DDR.
I wouldn't panic over this leak because it says nothing about the application processor's DRAM.

12 pages of frantic outcry over an alleged "rumour" and this guy debunks it all with some basic logic. Kudos toppernh.
 
I don't remember the price going up when they introduced the 4" iPhone 5. If the price does go up, that might be a dealbreaker for me.

True but they did increase the base model of the 5s when it was released. I have a feeling they'll do it on all models this year.
 
This will be disappointing if true. I have been eyeing the LG G3 with it's 5.5" screen with small bezels, 32GB storage + Micro SD and it comes with 3GB of RAM.
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If Apple does go with 1GB RAM, they better have some new irresistible features to keep me interested or I might be switching back to Android. (I go back and forth. I love both platforms.)

Yet it still has some lag for whatever reason/ The G3 that is..
 
An iPhone "only" (seriously?) having 1GB of RAM, doesn't make it a bad iPhone, it just shows how ridiculously inefficient and unoptimised most Android devices are. You can do A LOT with 1GB of memory, if you're skilled enough in writing software. ASM can fit inside TINY data areas (a few BYTES!), it's just that VMs and inefficient, resource-sucking high level languages with little to no optimisation, demand more space to spread out in.

Imagine a fat bloke who weighs 32 stone - he could lose weight and live in a smaller house, wear smaller clothes and put less strain on his floorboards... ALL of that optimisation depends on him losing weight. Same applies to software.
 
Yet it still has some lag for whatever reason/ The G3 that is..

I have the g3 and I love it but yeah it lags sometimes. I don't care though because every phone lags and that screen lets me overlook the lag
 
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