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Alleged Schematic Shows Protruding Camera Ring on 4.7-Inch iPhone 6
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I hope your right and everyone crying will be praising the apple gods. If it is somehow magnetic and suddenly a whole host of lenses can simply snap on, I'm all for it.
Actually, since I am a part-time photographer, I like this idea a lot if protruding camera served that purpose. Having thin body while going to compete Microsoft Lumia phones with their crazy camera, Apple have to do something innovative enough like an interchangeable different lenses that click directly to the phone camera without extra ugly holder.
I can see Apple selling lots of lenses set made with Sapphire and liquid metal (everyone is wrong about Apple's plan on Sapphire, it's for lenses they are going to sell!)
Edit: http://blog.laptopmag.com/iphone-6-interchangeable-lenses
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No, your denial of what is posted here.
Lol you're still doing this? Thought you'd stop after the whole beats thing. Gave you too much credit methinks
Mind supplying a link to the 64bit part? A quick Google shows your post as the best result.
Everything else you said was subjective.
quite opposite. I think everyone is right about Apples Plans for Sapphire! they have a ********* of it LOL. i bet the use it in numerous devices across the board. i don't think theres a specific one really.
No, your denial of what is posted here.
Actually this could be the perfect example for people like you who blabber about "ample evidence for flip-floppers" but yet fail every single time to quote at least one single one of those... I'd definitely start taking you serious once you can point to one of them, so let us wait for all the "I love the camera protrusion"-posts...
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Lol you're still doing this? Thought you'd stop after the whole beats thing. Gave you too much credit methinks
Yeah, I've kind of missed the "beats rule!"-flip-flopper posts so far that AplloaScruff was fantasizing about....
Lol it makes me laugh every time and that's why I call the people who do it out every time...and it's not just him, but he sticks out for some reason...I think it's just cuz I love breaking bad!
I agree with you. I am still using a black 4 and have never had any desire for a 5. The 4 is a sweet phone but mine only has 8Gb and I don't like the idea of trying to do latest IOSs on it, so I am hoping these 'leaked' images have all been Apple toying with us!
Lol you're still doing this? Thought you'd stop after the whole beats thing. Gave you too much credit methinks
Still doing what? Commenting on what I read here?
I think many people overestimate the battery life of Android flagships because of the fact that it's gotten significantly better with the Snapdragon 800 series. But, as most benchmarks show, Apple is still near the top of the list in that department.
That said, I would really like to see Apple really push iPhone battery life way up by using significantly larger batteries in their new larger phones than the ~1500mah capacity of the 5S. Combined with the efficiency of 20nm A8 and iOS 8, they could really open up a huge battery life lead on Android rivals, and give users a much better experience by letting us use power-hungry services more liberally.
I get pretty good battery life on my 5, but it's largely because I'm prudent about disallowing most apps to update in the background, cutting off GPS to almost every app, going into airplane mode in areas with poor service (and when I don't need to use data), and playing music that's locally stored on the iPhone so that the phone doesn't burn more power streaming it from iTunes Match or Pandora.
It's such a shame because Apple is the undisputed king of battery life in their other major categories with the MacBook Air and Retina Pro, and the iPad.
I have a good battery life too because I always have a good signal reception, and that's a relief for battery life.
When I was on vacation I happened to have a really weak signal and battery life was a disaster, although I didn't use the phone as much as I do in my everyday life (after all I was on vacation...).
iPad as a good battery life, 13'' Airs have an awesome battery life, why the iPhone users have to struggle?
You can save battery by turning off some feature, but it shouldn't be necessary. Apple philosophy is "easy to use" so why do we have to waste out time in settings to squeeze some more life from our phones? It's ridiculous.
Of course a 5.5 model with a huge battery would solve the problem, but I'm quite concerned about the 4.7 model . I expect it to have roughly the same battery life as iPhone 5S, maybe a little bit better, but I'd rather sacrifice thinness for a thickest battery.
Still doing what? Commenting on what I read here?
Lol...the beats flip floppers are coming!!
This guy...
I'll do this for formality sake...can you show me one example of what you're talking about?
You dont have to answer, I know you can't lol
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jrswizzle...
Every other factor can be improved in a smaller form factor as well depending on technology.
-Durability Depends more on the materials used. I've broken an iPhone 4S before, yet my 5 and 5S were fine after similar drops. All anecdotal. They use the same material- just less of it. For any given material and design, using less compromises yield strength. The side of the 5 is same material and similar design as the 4, but with less material around the cutouts. Therefore, it's weaker and more prone to damage
-Battery life Can be improved more by better technology For any given level of technology, the battery life will be shorter the smaller it is. The battery life was never sufficient to last a whole day for me, and I know MANY others in the same boat. In the old days of flip phones, batteries would typically last several days (and my razor was THIN). The iPhone does more of course, so it needs a bigger battery. This is particularly important since the iPhone battery isn't swappable, so it needs to accommodate a wider range of demands. Just because it lasts all day for you doesn't mean there aren't a ton of people out there who it doesn't last all day for. Battery life is the most common complaint about the iPhone I see on this forum. Too thick is the least common. Therefore, which is the bigger issue? A swappable battery would be one way to accommodate them, but barring that, make it bigger
-component cost Not necessarily Yes- smaller parts cost more. Two 64Gb chips are less expensive than one 128, for example. Pushing the boundaries of miniaturization will always be a bit more expensive
-camera performance Not necessarily, though I will give you the camera wouldn't necessarily have to protrude. But I've seen crappier cameras that protrude from thicker phones.You're dealing with basic physics here. Better cameras need bigger sensors and bigger glass, and space for those elements to move. I'm not saying that can't make a pretty good camera at this size; I'm saying they could make a better one with a bit more room. The fact that it protrudes is evidence that they're up against some physical limitations
-speaker sound quality (It looks like this new phone only has one speaker!) Again, thickness of the device is not the sole factorIt's not the sole factor; merely an important one. There's a reason your home theatre doesn't use 2mm speakers. While impressive for their size, that's a big qualifier and using similar technology, a bigger speaker would give much better sound quality
You mention these things as if a larger device would magically make all these things better. There are bigger phones out there that suck in some of these areas. I'm not saying a bigger phone must necessarily perform better; I said the above areas would be improved if using otherwise similar design and technology
Essentially, instead of using technological advancements for vastly more capability, they're using it to make it thinner with more modest upgrades. I think we're thin enough and would value more performance much more than making something thin a tiny bit thinner. The iPhone is becoming like an anorexic girl...thinner at all cost, when most things would be better with a bit more girth. Not "a brick"...but iPhone 4 or 5 thickness and use the space for more capability as parts get more compact.
Every other factor can be improved in a smaller form factor as well depending on technology.
-Durability Depends more on the materials used. I've broken an iPhone 4S before, yet my 5 and 5S were fine after similar drops. All anecdotal. They use the same material- just less of it. For any given material and design, using less compromises yield strength. The side of the 5 is same material and similar design as the 4, but with less material around the cutouts. Therefore, it's weaker and more prone to damage
-Battery life Can be improved more by better technology For any given level of technology, the battery life will be shorter the smaller it is. The battery life was never sufficient to last a whole day for me, and I know MANY others in the same boat. In the old days of flip phones, batteries would typically last several days (and my razor was THIN). The iPhone does more of course, so it needs a bigger battery. This is particularly important since the iPhone battery isn't swappable, so it needs to accommodate a wider range of demands. Just because it lasts all day for you doesn't mean there aren't a ton of people out there who it doesn't last all day for. Battery life is the most common complaint about the iPhone I see on this forum. Too thick is the least common. Therefore, which is the bigger issue? A swappable battery would be one way to accommodate them, but barring that, make it bigger
-component cost Not necessarily Yes- smaller parts cost more. Two 64Gb chips are less expensive than one 128, for example. Pushing the boundaries of miniaturization will always be a bit more expensive
-camera performance Not necessarily, though I will give you the camera wouldn't necessarily have to protrude. But I've seen crappier cameras that protrude from thicker phones.You're dealing with basic physics here. Better cameras need bigger sensors and bigger glass, and space for those elements to move. I'm not saying that can't make a pretty good camera at this size; I'm saying they could make a better one with a bit more room. The fact that it protrudes is evidence that they're up against some physical limitations
-speaker sound quality (It looks like this new phone only has one speaker!) Again, thickness of the device is not the sole factorIt's not the sole factor; merely an important one. There's a reason your home theatre doesn't use 2mm speakers. While impressive for their size, that's a big qualifier and using similar technology, a bigger speaker would give much better sound quality
You mention these things as if a larger device would magically make all these things better. There are bigger phones out there that suck in some of these areas. I'm not saying a bigger phone must necessarily perform better; I said the above areas would be improved if using otherwise similar design and technology
Essentially, instead of using technological advancements for vastly more capability, they're using it to make it thinner with more modest upgrades. I think we're thin enough and would value more performance much more than making something thin a tiny bit thinner. The iPhone is becoming like an anorexic girl...thinner at all cost, when most things would be better with a bit more girth. Not "a brick"...but iPhone 4 or 5 thickness and use the space for more capability as parts get more compact.
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I guess because I have two phones, I would probably be in the light/medium user range for my iPhone. I leave everything on with background updates and don't have a problem making it through a day. I also work in a building where the cell service is terrible - that drains a battery more than almost anything.
I'm all for better internals and upgrades - but apparently I'm the only one who doesn't want to use a brick for a phone. I think there's a point where the thickness will be as thin as it can be. Until we reach that point though, I have no problem with Apple shaving .# mm wherever they can.
Lol...the beats flip floppers are coming!!
This guy...
I'll do this for formality sake...can you show me one example of what you're talking about?
You dont have to answer, I know you can't lol
I'm not keeping a data base of flip floppers. I read this forum everyday and I see how the general consensus changes when Apple does what was previously considered unnecessary or undesirable. Beats, NFC, multitasking on iPad, etc etc etc. Read any Samsung, Microsoft or Google thread. It's not important to me so I don't keep track of thousands of posts to see if anyone changed their opinion. It's a general observation that I see ample evidence of, that's all. You don't see it that way, fine. But there are quite a few who see it a bit differently. I comment on what I read, nothing more.
Ohhhh...sooo dramatic and pedantic. You must not've read page 16. I was replying to jrswizzle and used the same formatting that he used in his reply to me in post 386
Most of those you posted are 2012 vs 2013 or 2013 vs 2014 comparisons. And the truereviews site is so general and vague on the claims it makes.....show me some actual data - same tests run on both phones (or all competitors). Not "Samsung claims 17 hours and its pretty close - we got a full day of general usage" and "We got 11 hours of talk time on the 5S but its not as good as competitors".....what does that even mean?
I still have yet to see any objective data that shows iPhones getting "trounced". Use case varies greatly and individual reviews will always vary wildly.
This is what he says in the Techradar review:
"I can't see how the claims of 8 hours' browsing on 3G holds any water, as that was one area that really hurt the battery and caused the phone to heat up. Talking also drained the power pack, and Apple's quoting up to 10 hours on 3G. Again, I can't see it."
So he didn't ACTUALLY test it for that amount of time. Just saw that the battery drained by a certain percentage over the course of a certain amount of time and just extroplated from there? There's no data in this review either....only anecdotal evidence where he claims over and over again "I just can't see it".
Give me Anandtech all day every day. They use the same tests on all their devices and compile a variety of battery benchmarks which run the gamut from talk time (the one place where the iPhone IS behind) to GPU usage, CPU usage etc.
Otherwise, all you have is "he said, she said"....which means nothing objectively.
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I'm not keeping a data base of flip floppers. I read this forum everyday and I see how the general consensus changes when Apple does what was previously considered unnecessary or undesirable. Beats, NFC, multitasking on iPad, etc etc etc. Read any Samsung, Microsoft or Google thread. It's not important to me so I don't keep track of thousands of posts to see if anyone changed their opinion. It's a general observation that I see ample evidence of, that's all. You don't see it that way, fine. But there are quite a few who see it a bit differently. I comment on what I read, nothing more.
What you're doing is reading one person say one thing and another person say another and then acting as if two completely different people having two differing opinions means something deeper than that.
You're essentially pointing out that person A likes something and person B doesn't. While we appreciate your tireless effort to point this out on every thread, what's the point of doing that?
Btw I'm just commenting on what I read from you also, nothing more
.And I DO see it the same way you do, I'm just wondering what significance it has that you need to say it in every thread? That's the million dollar question. Any answer?
