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Alleged Schematic Shows Protruding Camera Ring on 4.7-Inch iPhone 6

apolloa said:
I think the one on the bottom has a finger print scanner there hence the design, I have to laugh at you in your attempt to even compare the Nokia camera to an iphone, you do realise that model has the 40 odd megapixel camera plus a PROPER Xenon flash and optical image stabilisation right? On quality it pretty much destroys the iPhone camera. You buy that phone for it's camera! It would literally be a miracle to fit that much of an advanced camera into the phones body. And that hump is a tiny price to pay for a proper xenon flash.

As for the Nexus 5, well it is a very nicely designed phone with a lovely 1080P screen and a 2300 mah battery and is 8.59mm thick, the camera is protruding as it has Optical Image Stabilisation built in...... and it costs HALF the iPhone cost and I very much doubt Google were going to spend the same amount of money Apple does on it's iPhone design, if they did I'm pretty sure the camera would be flush with the body.

So yeah, I am pretty sure with Apples R&D, it's endless resources and money that Google didn't have or spend, it could make a phone the same thickness as the current iPhone and have a flush camera and a 2000 mah battery.
I've no idea about the Samsung phone you posted?
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10.4 inches thick and a windows phone to boot hardly a bargin. you dont know what the specs of the 6 will be but I bet it will be on par with the nokia. without 40% of the thickness and an extra 100$.

What planet are you on that battery size means anything when it comes to apple products. The nexus has a 2300 mah battery and still fails epicly worse then the iphone 5s batter which is 1500 mah. that being said the 18** hour battery will probably be on par or destroy most of the compitition along with 3000 mah batteries and has been subsidized by google to make it cheaper cause it performs worse also. cheap is cheap. an dif you think you could tell the differance between a 1080p display or whatever the resoulution on the 6 will be your also funny. the iphone display has been one the the best displyas out casue guess what. Resolution isnt the only thing that matters.
 
apolloa said:
Ah, this is the LG G3 that is 8.9mm thick, and has a LASER FOCUSED camera, and it is still flush with the body.

What about the HTC One Plus One, again 8.9mm thick and has a flush camera, or the HTC One M8 again flush camera but it's 9.35mm thick.

So if Apple makes this iPhone 6 with a camera hump, it's stupid, if it made it 1mm thick and had a flush camera it could still be the thinnest phone and have a decent flush camera and have a bigger battery. Well it could still have a bigger battery but for who knows what reason we have rumours of an 1800mah battery. :rolleyes:
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im pretty sure it will be beyond the thinest phone apple just doesnt hit the benchmark it destroys it. So competition wont get close. As they will try over the next year and will fail coninuoulsy making the iphone the top selling phone. like i have mentioned before battery size means nothing when it comes to apple nor to most other trivial hardware numbers. thier product out performs no matter the "specifications"

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apolloa said:
No they don't subsidize it, they just sell the phone just above cost, subsidizing means selling it below cost, and if you slapped on Apples 30% standard mark up it's still no where near the price of an iPhone.
It did not cost anywhere near as much to develop as what Apple spends on making it's phone 'thin'

It is also not a marketing tool, it is a reference design if anything. It's also a damn good phone for the price and the camera is actually pretty good.
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oh good gogole sell thier stuff at cost so somone will buy it. zero profit sounds like a good plan.....or waste. whatever
 
navysandsquid said:
10.4 inches thick and a windows phone to boot hardly a bargin. you dont know what the specs of the 6 will be but I bet it will be on par with the nokia. without 40% of the thickness and an extra 100$.
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LOL, no. I'd be willing to bet that *nothing* will ever be on par with the Lumia 1020, except for actual cameras that pretend to be phones. The iPhone 6 will definitely not be anywhere near it.

Still, I have a feeling that it is such a niche device that MS might not bother with a follower for it.

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navysandsquid said:
oh good gogole sell thier stuff at cost so somone will buy it. zero profit sounds like a good plan.....or waste. whatever
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It sounds like you don't have the slightest idea what google's business model is? Maybe you should... *puts on sunglasses*

Google it.

YEAAAAHHH!!!!
 
Thinness compromises...
-Durability
-Grip comfort
-Battery life
-component cost
-camera performance
-speaker sound quality (It looks like this new phone only has one speaker!)

For what, at this point? A little style? I'd rather have all of the above improved, especially if they're to the point where they can't fit everything inside.


I'll say it: the 5/5s is already too thin. If you look at many people's phones, you'll notice they're slightly bent near the upper buttons. The holes for the buttons compromise strength in this area, and there's simply not enough material around them. It's probably from accidently sitting on it in ones back pocket. I've done this many time with my 4S...on rocks even...and it's totally straight. This bend risks damaging internal parts and also puts residual stress on the screen, making the whole phone less durable.

Rather than making things ever thinner, make it thick enough to fit everything inside, strong enough to take a back-pocket sitting. If this means making it a 1mm thicker, they can use the extra volume to have best-in-class battey life, and they could also use two storage chips to decrease the cost of storage. The extra thickness would also improve the speaker
 
navysandsquid said:
10.4 inches thick and a windows phone to boot hardly a bargin. you dont know what the specs of the 6 will be but I bet it will be on par with the nokia. without 40% of the thickness and an extra 100$.

What planet are you on that battery size means anything when it comes to apple products. The nexus has a 2300 mah battery and still fails epicly worse then the iphone 5s batter which is 1500 mah. that being said the 18** hour battery will probably be on par or destroy most of the compitition along with 3000 mah batteries and has been subsidized by google to make it cheaper cause it performs worse also. cheap is cheap. an dif you think you could tell the differance between a 1080p display or whatever the resoulution on the 6 will be your also funny. the iphone display has been one the the best displyas out casue guess what. Resolution isnt the only thing that matters.
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Firstly, you have NO idea about that Nokia phone, Apple will never be able to match it's camera period! And yes that is a fact. Although maybe in 10 years it'll get close.
As for battery size, well to every single user bar you it seems, battery life IS important and hence battery size, is Apple going to magically come from the bottom for battery life to the top then? Because it has a long long long way to go to be the best in battery life.
And again Google has NOT subsidized the Nexus 5, why don't you :cool: Google what that word actually means before using it again?
And no, don't take my word about the screen size and resolution, take the word of every single tech review site, pretty much everyone finds the iPhone screen size and resolution to be ancient, and if it doesn't match 1080P with the iPhone 6 then they will continue to do so. The iPhone has gone from the number one position to the number 7 or 8 position.

navysandsquid said:
im pretty sure it will be beyond the thinest phone apple just doesnt hit the benchmark it destroys it. So competition wont get close. As they will try over the next year and will fail coninuoulsy making the iphone the top selling phone. like i have mentioned before battery size means nothing when it comes to apple nor to most other trivial hardware numbers. thier product out performs no matter the "specifications"

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oh good gogole sell thier stuff at cost so somone will buy it. zero profit sounds like a good plan.....or waste. whatever
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Sure Apple could make the thinnest phone ever, what for? I have NEVER seen ANYONE complain about the thickness of an iPhone 4 or 5. Let alone any other current phone.
And no, their 'product' is near bottom on battery performance compared to the competition. Oh and Google's business model seems to be working rather well for them, seeing as they are a multi national multi billion dollar corporation with a current share price of $595.21, which is nearly SIX times that of Apples $100.84, and that was with the price being down today!

So yes, Google knows exactly what it is doing.
 
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Think about this.

If the camera bulges outward...

And if you have the phone laying flat with the camera side facing down...

THE PHONE IS NOT LEVEL...



Rumor debunked

Your welcome
 
carves said:
Thinness compromises...
-Durability
-Grip comfort
-Battery life
-component cost
-camera performance
-speaker sound quality (It looks like this new phone only has one speaker!)

For what, at this point? A little style? I'd rather have all of the above improved, especially if they're to the point where they can't fit everything inside.


I'll say it: the 5/5s is already too thin. If you look at many people's phones, you'll notice they're slightly bent near the upper buttons. The holes for the buttons compromise strength in this area, and there's simply not enough material around them. It's probably from accidently sitting on it in ones back pocket. I've done this many time with my 4S...on rocks even...and it's totally straight. This bend risks damaging internal parts and also puts residual stress on the screen, making the whole phone less durable.

Rather than making things ever thinner, make it thick enough to fit everything inside, strong enough to take a back-pocket sitting. If this means making it a 1mm thicker, they can use the extra volume to have best-in-class battey life, and they could also use two storage chips to decrease the cost of storage. The extra thickness would also improve the speaker
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For what, at this point? Less material. Less weight. Less thickness. Stop trying to kill the planet!
 
Merkie said:
You're annoying. Same phone but bigger battery = increased battery life. What's not to understand about that?
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Lol, I'm annoying? Because I'm stating that we don't know anything for sure so I would reserve right to judge the device after it is announced/released?

Ok pal.....

OBVIOUSLY, as you said ALL THINGS EQUAL a larger capacity battery produces more battery life.

As I stated in my previous post NOTHING IS ACTUALLY EQUAL. We have no idea what types of software changes, hardware improvements, efficiencies Apple is packing into this device.

It could be that this new battery (which IS a capacity boost from prior models btw) will last average users more than a day on a single charge AND the device is thinner due to Apple's tight integration of hardware and software.


Point being, relax. You have no idea what the battery life will be like. Neither do I. It's less than 3 weeks away. Think you can hold off complaining until then?
 
I am drilling a little hole in the mahogany table next to my easy chair. My phone will not wobble.
 
carves said:
Thinness compromises...
-Durability
-Grip comfort
-Battery life
-component cost
-camera performance
-speaker sound quality (It looks like this new phone only has one speaker!)

For what, at this point? A little style? I'd rather have all of the above improved, especially if they're to the point where they can't fit everything inside.


I'll say it: the 5/5s is already too thin. If you look at many people's phones, you'll notice they're slightly bent near the upper buttons. The holes for the buttons compromise strength in this area, and there's simply not enough material around them. It's probably from accidently sitting on it in ones back pocket. I've done this many time with my 4S...on rocks even...and it's totally straight. This bend risks damaging internal parts and also puts residual stress on the screen, making the whole phone less durable.

Rather than making things ever thinner, make it thick enough to fit everything inside, strong enough to take a back-pocket sitting. If this means making it a 1mm thicker, they can use the extra volume to have best-in-class battey life, and they could also use two storage chips to decrease the cost of storage. The extra thickness would also improve the speaker
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To say that MOST people's 5's and 5S's are bent is a gross overstatement. My iPhone 5S has been caseless for nearly the entirety of my time with it. It's been dropped and even fell out of a moving golf cart onto a poorly paved cartpath. It's not bent, nor is it broken. A couple of nicks on the edges, but otherwise in pretty good shape.

You assume all of those deficiencies. None of them are factual. With screens getting larger, it only makes sense to reduce bulk everywhere you can so as to make the device light and easier to use one-handed.

If you're sitting on your phone, that's not Apple's fault. You have the freedom to add a variety of accessories, some that will add a little bulk, make the device more comfortable for you, or even add battery and storage. All of these options exist to the group who wants a thicker device. However what options are there for those of us who want their devices as slim and light as possible? None aftermarket.

The mere fact that you think there are two speakers in the 5S and only one in these renderings shows how clueless you are. You do realize that the grill on the bottom of the device isn't just for speakers. All iPhones have speakers and microphones at the bottom of the device - look at the 5C and you'll notice the same configuration as the alleged iPhone 6 model shown.

http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/
http://www.apple.com/iphone-5c/specs/

Scroll to "External Buttons and Connectors".
 
apolloa said:
I think Apple has totally brain washed you? You come across as one of those people where they could literally murder your entire family in front of you and you would love them for it!
Sure Apple could make the thinnest phone ever, what for? I have NEVER seen ANYONE complain about the thickness of an iPhone 4 or 5. Let alone any other current phone.
And no, their 'product' is near bottom on battery performance compared to the competition. Oh and Google's business model seems to be working rather well for them, seeing as they are a multi national multi billion dollar corporation with a current share price of $595.21, which is nearly SIX times that of Apples $100.84, and that was with the price being down today!

So yes, Google knows exactly what it is doing.
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Source please? In my experience (granted I haven't owned any of the 2014 Android devices, only the 2013 flagships - HTC One, GS4, Nexus 5), iPhones have better battery life than just about every device out there save for the Note series.

I'd love to see your source for them being at the bottom compared to competition.

Here's one of the best reviewers out there - as you can see, the 5S and 5C were squarely at the top or in the middle in all battery tests.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9
 
apolloa said:
Firstly, you have NO idea about that Nokia phone, Apple will never be able to match it's camera period! And yes that is a fact. Although maybe in 10 years it'll get close.
As for battery size, well to every single user bar you it seems, battery life IS important and hence battery size, is Apple going to magically come from the bottom for battery life to the top then? Because it has a long long long way to go to be the best in battery life.
And again Google has NOT subsidized the Nexus 5, why don't you :cool: Google what that word actually means before using it again?
And no, don't take my word about the screen size and resolution, take the word of every single tech review site, pretty much everyone finds the iPhone screen size and resolution to be ancient, and if it doesn't match 1080P with the iPhone 6 then they will continue to do so. The iPhone has gone from the number one position to the number 7 or 8 position.



Sure Apple could make the thinnest phone ever, what for? I have NEVER seen ANYONE complain about the thickness of an iPhone 4 or 5. Let alone any other current phone.
And no, their 'product' is near bottom on battery performance compared to the competition. Oh and Google's business model seems to be working rather well for them, seeing as they are a multi national multi billion dollar corporation with a current share price of $595.21, which is nearly SIX times that of Apples $100.84, and that was with the price being down today!

So yes, Google knows exactly what it is doing.
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Apple/Sony camera is better than Nokia !!!!!!
 
apolloa said:
Firstly, you have NO idea about that Nokia phone, Apple will never be able to match it's camera period! And yes that is a fact. Although maybe in 10 years it'll get close.
As for battery size, well to every single user bar you it seems, battery life IS important and hence battery size, is Apple going to magically come from the bottom for battery life to the top then? Because it has a long long long way to go to be the best in battery life.
And again Google has NOT subsidized the Nexus 5, why don't you :cool: Google what that word actually means before using it again?
And no, don't take my word about the screen size and resolution, take the word of every single tech review site, pretty much everyone finds the iPhone screen size and resolution to be ancient, and if it doesn't match 1080P with the iPhone 6 then they will continue to do so. The iPhone has gone from the number one position to the number 7 or 8 position.



Sure Apple could make the thinnest phone ever, what for? I have NEVER seen ANYONE complain about the thickness of an iPhone 4 or 5. Let alone any other current phone.
And no, their 'product' is near bottom on battery performance compared to the competition. Oh and Google's business model seems to be working rather well for them, seeing as they are a multi national multi billion dollar corporation with a current share price of $595.21, which is nearly SIX times that of Apples $100.84, and that was with the price being down today!

So yes, Google knows exactly what it is doing.
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You just went full :eek::p

Actually, Apple's market cap. Is 600+ billion, compared to not even 400 billion of Google. Add to that a fact that Apple has more than $160 billion in cash (would have had more than $200 billion if not for the stock buy back ) compared to $50 billion or so from Google...
I think you have no idea what your talking about:)
 
apolloa said:
Firstly, you have NO idea about that Nokia phone, Apple will never be able to match it's camera period! And yes that is a fact. Although maybe in 10 years it'll get close.
As for battery size, well to every single user bar you it seems, battery life IS important and hence battery size, is Apple going to magically come from the bottom for battery life to the top then? Because it has a long long long way to go to be the best in battery life.
And again Google has NOT subsidized the Nexus 5, why don't you :cool: Google what that word actually means before using it again?
And no, don't take my word about the screen size and resolution, take the word of every single tech review site, pretty much everyone finds the iPhone screen size and resolution to be ancient, and if it doesn't match 1080P with the iPhone 6 then they will continue to do so. The iPhone has gone from the number one position to the number 7 or 8 position.



Sure Apple could make the thinnest phone ever, what for? I have NEVER seen ANYONE complain about the thickness of an iPhone 4 or 5. Let alone any other current phone.
And no, their 'product' is near bottom on battery performance compared to the competition. Oh and Google's business model seems to be working rather well for them, seeing as they are a multi national multi billion dollar corporation with a current share price of $595.21, which is nearly SIX times that of Apples $100.84, and that was with the price being down today!

So yes, Google knows exactly what it is doing.
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The iPhone battery has been better untill these huge oversize phones come out with enormous batteries. Wow what innovation. Like I said the increase in battery will still leave the iPhone in competition with everyone else without compromising the size which people do complain about. People want a good size screen without holding a ****ing brick in there hand.
 
apolloa said:
Firstly, you have NO idea about that Nokia phone, Apple will never be able to match it's camera period! And yes that is a fact. Although maybe in 10 years it'll get close.
As for battery size, well to every single user bar you it seems, battery life IS important and hence battery size, is Apple going to magically come from the bottom for battery life to the top then? Because it has a long long long way to go to be the best in battery life.
And again Google has NOT subsidized the Nexus 5, why don't you :cool: Google what that word actually means before using it again?
And no, don't take my word about the screen size and resolution, take the word of every single tech review site, pretty much everyone finds the iPhone screen size and resolution to be ancient, and if it doesn't match 1080P with the iPhone 6 then they will continue to do so. The iPhone has gone from the number one position to the number 7 or 8 position.

Sure Apple could make the thinnest phone ever, what for? I have NEVER seen ANYONE complain about the thickness of an iPhone 4 or 5. Let alone any other current phone.
And no, their 'product' is near bottom on battery performance compared to the competition. Oh and Google's business model seems to be working rather well for them, seeing as they are a multi national multi billion dollar corporation with a current share price of $595.21, which is nearly SIX times that of Apples $100.84, and that was with the price being down today!

So yes, Google knows exactly what it is doing.
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hmmm...

Can you say 7 -1 stock split on 6/9/2014?

And really, number 7 or 8 position. According to what skewed numbers?
 
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