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My apologies, but still I believe the poster gives the impression that any Android phone can accept any Android OS without problem, and that is still wrong as a statement
I don't believe the poster said "without any problems".
Technically speaking you're both right.
You can put any "version" of Android on any Android supported hardware.
Will it be fully functional is dependent upon available kernel source for specific piece of hardware.

But from a pure version aspect, the poster is correct.

And Sense, Motoblur, TouchWiz, etc are not Android "versions", they are vendor add-ons that sit on top of Android.
 
I know we're all Apple Fanboys/gals but if you don't think the information you feed Apple isn't being used to market you, then you are being naive.

It isn't as annoying as Google (i.e. ads), but Apple does it through their own ventures they make money off of (i.e. iTunes recommendations).

Both companies use information you provide them to market products/services to you and both companies profit from it.

To call those equivalent is extremely laughable.

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No I'm not. You're assuming I'm this huge Google fanboy and them using our data as they please is okay.

The premise of your original statement is that major companies taking our data is a terrible thing. Apple does it as often as Google. Google forced everyone onto Google+, Apple tried to get everyone to use Ping.

I'm looking at both sides of it; not through Google Glasses or iGlasses.

I'm not selling you anything.

See the difference?
 
Seriously people—wake up and see the world for what it's becoming: an Orwellian dystopia.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a block of ads trying to sell people bikes they don't want because they googled up hiking equipment that one time—forever."

"From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party:
BUY VIAGRA
FREE ONLINE VIRUS SCAN
LAPTOPS 4 CHEAP"

...I'm scared. :eek:
 
Actually, yes it was. Not that exact prototype device, but Android to this day still works on those phones, because, again, Android is a hardware agnostic OS.

Android never was "A blackberry type phone and then switched to an iPhone type phone", Android never was a phone to begin with. It always was an OS, an OS you could install on different hardware designs and types, as long as drivers were made for the kernel.

I can't believe we still have to debunk this crap, all these years later and that people still believe the whole "Eric Schmidt stole from Apple, Steve said so!" when Steve said nothing of the kind and Eric never sat on meetings where Google and Apple had conflicts of interest, like iOS, iPad/iPhone and iAd meetings were.

You're mixing a lot of things.

1) Let's stipulate that neither Android OS or iOS are "phones", they are operating systems that each have a phone app. Putting "Phone" in the iPhone name was just marketing - it might as well have been called the iPad.

2) After the release of the iPhone/iPod touch and iOS, two things started to happen to Android OS and Android devices.

a) Android devices went from the BlackBerry form factor to the iPhone/iPod touch form factor. Google's club of Android device manufacturer's did this - with Samsung being the biggest. We can call this "Asian manufacturers converge towards the iPhone/iPod touch form factor" and some (Samsung) go as far as making devices that look like clones. Since Google is a software company, they rebrand the asian devices and so their devices tend to have physically converged towards Apple.

b) Android OS began to copy iOS in several respects (Google did this). In fact, while earlier Android versions clearly had more BlackBerry OS influences, post-iOS Android OS versions clearly start converging towards iOS design and UI-wise.

3) Let's stipulate that Google never made Android OS a pure copy like Samsung did on the manufacturing side. More like Google took cues, and yes some things look more like direct copies than others, but Google seems to have taken the "copy the form and function, theme it differently" tact. Some things are much different, but they've absorbed a lot of Apple spearheaded improvements and ideas.

4) When you bring up Java JIT, processors, hardware agnosticism, this is all just misdirection. Nobody is claiming Google copied Obj-C, Xcode compilers, and the concept of making an OS (they bought Android). People are talking about the OS functionality and form on one hand (Google did some copying) and device convergence and outright cloning in some cases (Asian manufacturers, and the prize for outright cloning design goes to Samsung).

So when you want to "debunk" stuff, you should be clarifying things by teasing apart claims and who did what, rather than mixing things up even more.
 
a) Android devices went from the BlackBerry form factor to the iPhone/iPod touch form factor. Google's club of Android device manufacturer's did this - with Samsung being the biggest. We can call this "Asian manufacturers converge towards the iPhone/iPod touch form factor" and some (Samsung) go as far as making devices that look like clones. Since Google is a software company, they rebrand the asian devices and so their devices tend to have physically converged towards Apple.

And what exactly is the difference between these two devices? That one has a physical keyboard, the other an onscreen representation? Android is still the same OS, no matter which input method it uses. So how can you say that Android copied iOS when the biggest change is roughly the equivalent to swapping a trackball with a mouse?
 
And I was having the impression Google's people hate for Apple people is much stronger. Not any longer, so you people don't use Google at all? Suddenly think Apple is so much safer, I doubt that. I honestly don't care about my info anymore, the moment you turn on ANY kind of Internet syncing of contacts or emails you've got no way of knowing where the info will go to. Have fun down voting this, I don't care. I just couldn't stand the useless hate for Google.
 
Apple didnt need a new mail client. Mobile me is one of the best and almost everyone is sastified by it.
 
Android never was "A blackberry type phone and then switched to an iPhone type phone", Android never was a phone to begin with. It always was an OS, an OS you could install on different hardware designs and types, as long as drivers were made for the kernel.
"We've always been at war with Eastasia..."
 
..which perfectly explains why Sparrow was so popular on the iPhone, and why so many people are lamenting it's potential loss.

I think that the desktop version was more popular than the iOS version.

At least the desktop version is the one that I'll miss.
 
Sparrow was Twitter for Email.. no biggie. Would have been a nice option integration in to the Apple mail app. But, I'm all about simple. HTML mail makes me crazy. I'm a Text Only kind of guy. Still miss Pine and Elm. ^^

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Why? moblie me is one of the best mail clients ever! they didnt need sparrow!

So was Eudora. Wonder what happened to that? :rolleyes:
 
I loved Sparrow and recommend it to all my friends, especially my older friends who are not used to computers. It wasn't perfect but it was one of the most elegant and easiest to use OSX email clients out there. I guess I can't blame the developers for cashing in, 25 million bucks is 25 million bucks, but this also means that Sparrow is unofficially a dead app. Good for Google and the developers but bad for Sparrow's loyal users.
 
You're mixing a lot of things.

No. I even provided sources to back up many of my claims. Something you omitted.

2) After the release of the iPhone/iPod touch and iOS, two things started to happen to Android OS and Android devices.

a) Android devices went from the BlackBerry form factor to the iPhone/iPod touch form factor.

Again. No. I provided evidence that Android devices remained... Android devices, ie, many things. Sliders, Qwerty portrait keyboard devices, touch screen. There are many examples of Android working on many form factors phones. I have shown them.


b) Android OS began to copy iOS in several respects (Google did this). In fact, while earlier Android versions clearly had more BlackBerry OS influences, post-iOS Android OS versions clearly start converging towards iOS design and UI-wise.

And what would those iOS designs and UI elements be exactly ? What respects did Android copy iOS ?

Android and iOS are as far apart as anything I've ever seen. OS wise, UI wise, user interaction wise. I made a lengthy post once detailing why. Please don't make dig it up. Provide actual examples of what you think Android "took" from iOS instead.

4) When you bring up Java JIT, processors, hardware agnosticism, this is all just misdirection.

No, it's not. It's part of the core Android design and philosophy. It's what makes Android ... well... Android. A hardware agnostic OS that can run on many different types of architectures/form factors, etc.. It proves the whole point that Android was designed not to fit a single or particular type of device like you and others claim.

So when you want to "debunk" stuff, you should be clarifying things by teasing apart claims and who did what, rather than mixing things up even more.

I didn't mix anything and provided actual links, sources, and picture evidence. You did none of that. You simply used ad hominems and vague references.

Try actual facts.

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"We've always been at war with Eastasia..."

I see I at least got through to you if that is all you can fire back. I see links supporting my claims, pictures of devices old and new, finally made you understand that you were simply wrong.

Good.
 
I hope the FTC investigates

Talk about selling out users for personal gain-- wait! That's Google's business model! I hope the FTC investigates.
 
That actually doesn't make any difference. Google has as much tracking information about you when you are signed out as they do when you are signed in. Better to use ad blocking software.

Google actually obtains more information when a user is signed-in to an account.
 
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