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What a load of old tosh. Apple care about money. So does Google and every other big corp...they really couldn't give a rats ass about the customer, they just want a positive brand image as that generates more income.

As for Google killing off products I really dont think you can use that as an argument given how Apple is notorious for failed web-based ventures which result in them being closed due to Apple's inability to successfully build and/or run web applications that last more than a couple of years. Ping, .Mac, Mobile Me, and most likely iCloud in a year or two.

Dont paint Google to be any worse than Apple here, as they really aren't. They are both big corporations, both with a lot of money and are both only interested in more money. It really is as simple as that.

(Happy Mac user and Gmail user but not hopelessly drooling over either company)

you are absolutely correct, they both care only about money. But there is a major difference and that's WHERE they get their money from. Apple's customers are the end users, therefore in order for them to succeed (and make lots of money) they need to keep the consumer happy. Whereas Google needs to keep the advertisers happy. I'm not knocking Google's practices, it's that same practice that has made their search engine light years ahead of yahoo and bing. But as far as consumer products, in my opinion, Apple does a better job of satisfying the user.
 
And Apple's sense of 'we know whats best for you so we offer no choices' doesn't come off as arrogant either?

The fact that you think it's all about "you" comes off as arrogant as well. :D

Apple designs the best products it can and offers them for sale. You are offered the choice to buy them or not. This strategy appears to be working.
 
Apparently they cashed in for somewhere around $25million. Have i been spoilt or does that seem low for a 5-person team to share? I suppose they get some Google stock too...
 
Hopefully New Updates to Gmail for iOS...

I have the Sparrow app and -no push notifications its a great app with a clean and easy to use interface. I also have the Gmail app, and I must say, not that great. It is kind of slow, not clean or easy to use and is not my first choice to send an email with. I hope that with this acquisition that the Gmail app for iOS gets a nice upgrade.
 
There was a time not too long ago when those who frequented the MacRumors forum would get all creamy when they thought about Apple and Google joining forces. Then Steve Jobs said something snarky about them and the masses "turned" on Google (while still using Google Search, Gmail, and maybe even Chrome) because their Dear Leader hinted at it.
I think Steve Jobs said Google stole the iPhone concept, lock-stock-and-barrel, based on Eric Schmidt having access to prototypes as a member of Apple's Board of Directors. I think most Apple users recognized the truth to that.

I just think you're all very silly.
I think you're deluding yourself.
 
Never liked Google.

They became arrogant long before that Steve Jobs quote.

usually when the word "arrogant" and Steve Jobs are mentioned in the same sentence it isn't structured like this

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I think Steve Jobs said Google stole the iPhone concept, lock-stock-and-barrel, based on Eric Schmidt having access to prototypes as a member of Apple's Board of Directors. I think most Apple users recognized the truth to that.


I think you're deluding yourself.

so where is the lawsuit against Schmidt?
 
The fact that you think it's all about "you" comes off as arrogant as well. :D

Apple designs the best products it can and offers them for sale. You are offered the choice to buy them or not. This strategy appears to be working.

Why is it an all or nothing proposition? Apple makes a great piece of hardware in the iPhone, they make a pretty good OS in iOS but they make a really ****** mail app. I don't understand why I have to give up an entire platform because they can't allow you to choose a better mail app. I'll live with it but that doesn't make it good.
 
Does sparrow allow group emailing (huge and necessary feature still missing from ios).
 
Why is it an all or nothing proposition? Apple makes a great piece of hardware in the iPhone, they make a pretty good OS in iOS but they make a really ****** mail app. I don't understand why I have to give up an entire platform because they can't allow you to choose a better mail app. I'll live with it but that doesn't make it good.

I understand the issue. We'd all like to change a few things outside our control. :)

The obvious answer is "Because that's the product that Apple chooses to offer."
 
I understand the issue. We'd all like to change a few things outside our control. :)

The obvious answer is "Because that's the product that Apple chooses to offer."

Well praise the jailbreaks, because without them I wouldn't be on iOS. iOS with no walled garden / silly restrictions is truly the supreme mobile OS.
 
Congrats to those lot.

Why did Apple pass them up? Only heard good things about them.

Apple seems to like to acquire to develop new competencies, not strengthen their current competencies. I'm sure there are some exceptions, but that's my general observation.
 
so where is the lawsuit against Schmidt?
The way the system works, companies can sue to ban hardware imports with infringing content. Unfortunately for Google's partners, that makes them the target. OTOH, they knew that when they hitched their wagons to Google's train. And I'm sure their business models account for that eventuality.
 
Let's see how long Flipboard can stick around before getting acquired. Like it or not, money is central to business.
 
Apple does it as often as Google. Google forced everyone onto Google+, Apple tried to get everyone to use Ping.

Apple does it as often as Google? Who's entire business is collecting customer data for marketing purposes? Who serves billions of Internet searches every day? Furthermore, Apple uses it (LIKE EVERY OTHER COMPANY) to sell you THEIR PRODUCTS, not to market crap from whomever is paying them the most.

This is Google's *business*. If you're fine with it, good for you. Many of us aren't.

I find it extremely disconcerting that ONE company, using non-public, proprietary methods, determines what the majority of the Internet population considers "fact" or the most relevant information.

Siri, when doing searches, gives you the provider of the information so you can at least tell where the data is coming from. Search Google and you have no idea how you're getting the results you get.

A few years ago at the I/O conference Google stated that they entered the market with Android so one company wouldn't determine the future. Google is now obviously that company. They are the very definition of "big brother" and the fact that so many people blindly thing that's okay... makes me shudder.
 
At least this will leave a void...

...for another - hopefully successful - startup. So, if there are some talented programers reading and are tempted and look for ideas: Here is my wish list for iOS mail clients:

- get me a reliable spamfilter
- get easy folders for email addresses
- get an easy-to-choose sender choice
- for deleting, make sure you ask if deleted from device or server

I'm sure there are some other fancy ideas out there to add to this list. The reason I want that is that I use a free email address and don't want to have a server-based spam filter. I would have to log on and check the spam box since sometimes real mail gets in there. Too much work. Switching from folder view to all mail inbox view like in the native client isn't a bad feature and I would hate to not have it. Same with "send from." The deleting issue is pretty self-explanatory: If I use my iPad to go through my mail and deem something "spam," I want that this deletes it also from my iPhone and doesn't even show up on my home computer when I start that one up. This way, I don't stumble over spam 3x.

Anybody starting the code already? :D
 
Apple does it as often as Google? Who's entire business is collecting customer data for marketing purposes? Who serves billions of Internet searches every day? Furthermore, Apple uses it (LIKE EVERY OTHER COMPANY) to sell you THEIR PRODUCTS, not to market crap from whomever is paying them the most.

This is Google's *business*. If you're fine with it, good for you. Many of us aren't.

I find it extremely disconcerting that ONE company, using non-public, proprietary methods, determines what the majority of the Internet population considers "fact" or the most relevant information.

Siri, when doing searches, gives you the provider of the information so you can at least tell where the data is coming from. Search Google and you have no idea how you're getting the results you get.

A few years ago at the I/O conference Google stated that they entered the market with Android so one company wouldn't determine the future. Google is now obviously that company. They are the very definition of "big brother" and the fact that so many people blindly thing that's okay... makes me shudder.

So you don't use Google? For anything?
 
Apple does it as often as Google? Who's entire business is collecting customer data for marketing purposes? Who serves billions of Internet searches every day? Furthermore, Apple uses it (LIKE EVERY OTHER COMPANY) to sell you THEIR PRODUCTS, not to market crap from whomever is paying them the most.

This is Google's *business*. If you're fine with it, good for you. Many of us aren't.

I find it extremely disconcerting that ONE company, using non-public, proprietary methods, determines what the majority of the Internet population considers "fact" or the most relevant information.

Siri, when doing searches, gives you the provider of the information so you can at least tell where the data is coming from. Search Google and you have no idea how you're getting the results you get.

A few years ago at the I/O conference Google stated that they entered the market with Android so one company wouldn't determine the future. Google is now obviously that company. They are the very definition of "big brother" and the fact that so many people blindly thing that's okay... makes me shudder.
Am I missing something, google's source would be the url that shows up under the link? Bing and yahoo exist too you know, but they are collecting your information as well.
 
so in other words sparrow sold out.. google gave them an offer that could not be refused. Money talks.
 
Like every other Google-hater, he probably uses it just as much as anyone else. If you don't want to find what you are looking for, use Bing. Otherwise just don't click on any of Google's ads, or block them. Not that difficult.

Well stated.

Remember when people didn't hate Google? When they were innovative and doing cool things? Now that they are so successful we can hate them? But ... that sounds like the story of Apple since 1995. But we love Apple. So conflicted right now. When is it going to be cool to hate Apple? I mean ... they are pretty darn successful. I think?
 
Apple does it as often as Google. Google forced everyone onto Google+, Apple tried to get everyone to use Ping.

Ping is nowhere near as bad as google plus. I used to use Gmail to communicate via email. I'm not a 16 year old kid yet they forced this social networking product on me, not by choice. Next thing I knew people were adding me to their circles, wanting to "hang out"... if I want that, I'll sign up for Facebook, or google's own product on my own. Don't convert my existing email to your product to falsely tout your "success" in the social marketplace.
 
Ping is nowhere near as bad as google plus. I used to use Gmail to communicate via email. I'm not a 16 year old kid yet they forced this social networking product on me, not by choice. Next thing I knew people were adding me to their circles, wanting to "hang out"... if I want that, I'll sign up for Facebook, or google's own product on my own. Don't convert my existing email to your product to falsely tout your "success" in the social marketplace.

I've never had this issue, I said no to the google plus prompt.
 
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