That “disruptive“ apple has largely disappeared ever since the death of steve jobs 13 years ago (Oh man time flies).
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Alternative iOS App Stores Only Work for 'Grace Period' When Traveling Outside of EU
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The problem with that is that’s how it works for ALL of us. Rights/protections that I have as a U.S. citizen while I’m home…don’t apply to me outside the country. I am then subject to whatever laws are in place in whatever country I’m in. EU citizens aren’t some special class of people that get to take their protections with them wherever they go.
im not sure what/who the text or intent of the regulation is targeting but this seems like a trivial problem.
could be phones sold in the eea, could be apple id registered in eu, could be just being in the eu 🤷♀️
regardless this seems like a very trivial problem to solve
when u leave america is your bank allowed to suddenly not follow american law when dealing with you?
yeah this would be a bad thing to actually verify citizenship
apple is a foul company so the ordinary solution of just self selecting regions and respecting that is clearly off the table
hopefully the eu mandates apple simply respect the policies for any phone purchased in the eea or something
By the same token, people are acting like Apple derided their grandmother.
Ridiculous example, seeing as how my bank is based in the U.S., it is therefore subject to U.S. laws whether I’m there or not. Apple isn’t based in the EU, and the DMA was written to apply to EU countries only, so by the way the DMA was written…those “protections” end at their boundaries. Guess you should air your grievances with the EU for not thinking about that.
A better example would be if an American citizen breaks the law in another country, would U.S. law protect them (assuming said action was legal in the U.S.)? Nope, it wouldn’t, because said citizen is subject to the laws of the country they’re in. And vice versa. Your home country’s laws and protections don’t follow you everywhere you go.
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lol.
You think being an EU resident gives them "rights" everywhere in the world, even when it contradicts laws from the place they are in? That's delusional.
That's hilarious as well. As soon as Apple has a finding against it, those who dislike everything Apple, Cook or iOS go nuts! Apple make a single decision that is well within their actual rights (not fictional ones like you've mentioned above) and the Anti Apple people carry on like Apple are the devil. What a joke.
Why shouldn’t it be geofenced? The law is geofenced.
This is NEVER about citizenship. Not that it matters. It is about having an AppleID from within the European Union. If I were to live in Europe (I am from Australia) I could very easily get a European AppleID and you are suggesting when I return, I must be able to circumvent every Apple Store guideline and rule to maintain that when I return. That's not very smart is it?
But I would never be that European Citizen.
So if this happened before Brexit, (or for any country who subsequently leaves) the Apple user should be able to have this access infinitum, even though they no longer have that lauded protection from the European Union.
Why are people even here in a forum where everything on here is so foul? I really don't understand what the attraction is for that?
everything? these regulations don’t seem foul to me. apple lowering app store fees isn’t foul. pressure on apple to open the platform doesn’t seem foul.
foul for thee but not for me?
Only an ignorant person would say that.
Does the cops need to prove harm if you jaywalked across the street? Do they need to prove harm if you carry an unlicensed weapon in public?
Same principle, the act is just illegal irrespective of harm. Just how you don’t need to prove harm in regards to thousands of other laws… because the actions are illegal full stop.
These laws are close to 80 years old already since 1948
This won’t stand forever. Surely Apple can feel they are about to lose their grip.
Also, it’s malicious compliance AGAIN.
Shame on Apple
Also, it’s malicious compliance AGAIN.
Shame on Apple
lol. nice pun... 😃 Still don't understand why people come on here just to rant or vent about Apple.
So you have accepted my point that this has nothing to do with being an EU citizen and you agree that being an EU citizen gives them no rights against laws in other countries? It is all about having an EU AppleID whilst in the EU. You ignored that bit, so I assume you accepted it, if not agreed with it.
It has nothing to do with being an EU citizen. It is about having an EU AppleID whilst being in an EU country.
Strange world in which we have to asterisk one naughty word when another is fine. Really pisses me off.
A fine is supposed to be discouraging the illegal activity. Or do you prefer a slap on the wrist as just another day of conducting businesses?
Easy, eu based card, eu based carrier, eu based residential address, eu based social security number etc.
There a lot of things only European people have that nobody else have and would be very hard to spoof.
Yea that’s child’s play to verify. There exist infrastructure already built for this.
Apple would just need the user to verify the account with BankID or something similar and would take about 5 seconds to do and would verify the user is an EU citizen. As only people with citizenship in a EU country could do that
Hmm don’t know what that would refer to in my language.
But essentially anything that’s connected to your citizenship. And 100% of people have a unique identification number that is verified with the Bank or state authorities with electronic Identification
But this is NOT about citizenship. It has nothing to do with it. It's about having an EU AppleID, which anyone living in the EU can get. You do not have to be a citizen of an EU country to get an EU AppleID.
It’ll ping somehow. Separate product, but Google has gotten very smart at tracking down where the user is when using the YouTube TV service. It sees right through a VPN-hosted “location”. The only way I’ve heard how to trick it is to manually set up your own VPN with a box in the location.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple does something similar.