Dave245
macrumors G4
I like the Pro and I’m prepared to buy it if there is a difference in camera quality over the 11. We just haven’t seen reviews or anything yet so I’m not sure. The Pro Max is appealing as I like bigger screen phones.
iPhone 11 Although it's 699, the 11 feels like a SCAM compared with 11 Pro and Max
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I like the Pro and I’m prepared to buy it if there is a difference in camera quality over the 11. We just haven’t seen reviews or anything yet so I’m not sure. The Pro Max is appealing as I like bigger screen phones.
Coffee_Time
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Oled, wide angle, stainless steel, better size, maybe some extra software features. Rumors are also an extra 2GB of ram. All of this for 299$ more? I'll take it any day!
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Smart choice to sit back and wait. I 100% agree.
Dave245
macrumors G4
Are you sure you’re not Tim Cook trying to up-sell us all 
I do think the Pro is a nice device, I’m impressed that they can put so much technology in a phone. Some of what they talk about for the Pro’s camera sounds like it can be just as good as a DSLR, which would be impressive in so many ways!
I do think the Pro is a nice device, I’m impressed that they can put so much technology in a phone. Some of what they talk about for the Pro’s camera sounds like it can be just as good as a DSLR, which would be impressive in so many ways!
Coffee_Time
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I wish! In fact I don't want to be him. That will mean no life.Are you sure you’re not Tim Cook trying to up-sell us all
I do think the Pro is a nice device, I’m impressed that they can put so much technology in a phone. Some of what they talk about for the Pro’s camera sounds like it can be just as good as a DSLR, which would be impressive in so many ways!
As I've said, I'm with the LG V50. I can speak about it if you want.
Bootleg Gucci
macrumors 6502
iPhone 11 also lacks wireless charging? Well that’s a no go coming from an iPhone X.
Gathomblipoob
macrumors 603
It has wireless charging.
mattopotamus
macrumors G5
They both have the wide angle lens. "Maybe some extra software features", not likely as it would have been a key point in the keynote. "rumors of 2gb more ram", is probably 3gb vs 4gb of RAM.
All of those things mean they are very similar phones. I also will add being able to choose 128gb on the 11 is a massive plus. 64 is laughable at this stage, and the price hike to 256 is annoying. You are really talking about $750 (128gb 11) vs $1149 (256gb pro). That is $400, aka 35% price increase
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Soory, I mean telephoto.
iApple_man
macrumors 6502
Clearly we use our phones differently. To each their own.
barondebxl
macrumors 6502a
With 64 gigs of based storage and a sub 1080p display. Oh and no fast charging out of the box which is offered by Android phones costing $200
thadoggfather
macrumors P6
I could not disagree more actually lol.
I think the 9-photo thing is exclusive to pro but average Joe might not know or and/or care on the off chance they did know
$300 more, a 43% price hike from 11, for an OLED screen (without 3D touch as well now) and a telephoto to get that ugly stove look bump to average Joe, when they already got two on the other (maybe not even knowing one is wide one is ultra wide , just that there are two and that’s fine) and a wider variety of colors- even though the pro green looks sweet, feels like an even taller order. When you factor in average Joe is probably skeptical they’ll get hosed on the upgrades next year even if they don’t cave to it , just cause technology . spending the least amount on a device that satisfies is the way to go. At a certain point a smartphone is just a smartphone to even a lot of people perpetually glued to it , assuming it meets minimum threshold of needs
I’m not saying pro doesn’t seem cool, but gotta factor in average consumer. And even not
Knowing what they’re getting into comparison wise just blindly buying the cheapest and latest I think they’re doing pretty well
I think the 9-photo thing is exclusive to pro but average Joe might not know or and/or care on the off chance they did know
$300 more, a 43% price hike from 11, for an OLED screen (without 3D touch as well now) and a telephoto to get that ugly stove look bump to average Joe, when they already got two on the other (maybe not even knowing one is wide one is ultra wide , just that there are two and that’s fine) and a wider variety of colors- even though the pro green looks sweet, feels like an even taller order. When you factor in average Joe is probably skeptical they’ll get hosed on the upgrades next year even if they don’t cave to it , just cause technology . spending the least amount on a device that satisfies is the way to go. At a certain point a smartphone is just a smartphone to even a lot of people perpetually glued to it , assuming it meets minimum threshold of needs
I’m not saying pro doesn’t seem cool, but gotta factor in average consumer. And even not
Knowing what they’re getting into comparison wise just blindly buying the cheapest and latest I think they’re doing pretty well
The value is with the iPhone 11 starting at $699.00. The ‘Pro’ models are nice, but mainly if you want the newest camera, then that’s what you will have to opt for. The iPhone 11 received some nice updates, with the price point drop, plus a trade-in makes that phone a great value.
That’s a pretty extreme example...
In 99% of these Android cases, it just simply lipstick on an overall pig.
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Want to see clear GPU benchmarking gains/results first.
Screen is irrelevant to me because OLED is eye strain city - for me. (Currently)
Have the Xr now and the screen is fine.
Would like the new cameras and extra battery life. - And processor bump.
All in all... Apple wants to split the difference with their Xr to 11 trade-in value.
$400 bones for the upgrade above....
Maybe Black Friday.
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Gathomblipoob
macrumors 603
But isn't at least 8GB of that 32GB taken up by the operating system? Damn, you're frugal!
Coffee_Time
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My android has like 23 GB installed. I've read somewhere that iOs is about the same size. Where did you get that 8Gb?
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Gathomblipoob
macrumors 603
I didn't know you were using an Android device. System takes up 23GB of that? That must be a little more than the OS. About 8.9GB for "other apps" and a small amount of videos and images. It could also be that I'm misunderstanding you. It's late and I'm old.
My system usage on my iPhone Xs Max is 5.6GB. Other system data takes up 6.62 GB.
Coffee_Time
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I'm connected each day to my laptop and once in a few days I move my photos and videos to my laptop where I organize, rename and save my collection.I didn't know you were using an Android device. System takes up 23GB of that? That must be a little more than the OS. About 8.9GB for "other apps" and a small amount of videos and images. It could also be that I'm misunderstanding you. It's late and I'm old.
My system usage on my iPhone Xs Max is 5.6GB. Other system data takes up 6.62 GB.
jeremiah256
macrumors 65816
But doesn’t this depend on how you use the phone? Are you suggesting people always buy the more expensive and capable model of whatever even if they will never use those extra features? If so, I strongly disagree. I’d rather take that extra money and put it towards something else I might want.
Coffee_Time
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I didn't know you were using an Android device. System takes up 23GB of that? That must be a little more than the OS. About 8.9GB for "other apps" and a small amount of videos and images. It could also be that I'm misunderstanding you. It's late and I'm old.
My system usage on my iPhone Xs Max is 5.6GB. Other system data takes up 6.62 GB.
I find that hard to beleive. I'm pretty sure iOS is around 20GB also.
What do you mean by other system data - 6.62 GB?
Anyway, I got your point regarding the enough memory. I 100% agree with you. I already have 34GB of videos and photos since 28 july with this new phone. Also I have disabled RAW and live photos since like 6 months ago, one single raw being 50MB!
iOS system takes about 5 - 8 GB in my experience.
Adelphos33
macrumors 68000
Some people seem to be downright offended that Apple is attempting to clearly make the lower-cost iPhone the "standard iPhone." In theory, for the past two years, there hasn't been a "standard iPhone." Now there is. It will be clearer in 2020 when the $699 phone moves to OLED.
rebretz000
macrumors 6502
As others said, if the screen was 1080P then it would be good deal. In this day and age of 4K screens then anything less is unacceptable. It I still wouldn’t consider it a scam. $649 would be a more accurate price for the phone.