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Am I the only one annoyed by these "but the iPad Pro is not a real laptop replacement!"

ZombiePete said:
They're perfectly acceptable backup solutions for me; I've never in all the years that I've been using cloud storage across multiple platforms lost one file to corruption or to bad copies. Just because you have a problem with them doesn't invalidate them as solutions, and your position on the importance of backups doesn't mean that for someone else an iPad can't be their only computing device. Broaden your perspective beyond your own needs and desires.
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That's a very common backup folly. "I've never lost an important file, so why do I need a good backup solution?" The answer is, when you need it, it will be too late. This is a timeless truth. It was true with Windows 95, it was true with OS X Tiger, and it remains true today. iOS is great, I love it, but it's not an excuse for having inadequate file backups.

I am confident that at some point soon iOS will have all the capabilities and features necessary for it to be a proper primary computer. Maybe it will be iOS 10 or iOS 11 (or iOS X as some like to suggest :) ). Today, it is not there yet.
 
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AdonisSMU said:
The movies and music I get via streaming or iTunes. So I can use it again later on. I think the cloud is ideal for stuff that isn't private or personal in nature. That includes movies and music.
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I agree. Movies and music are not personal in nature as you say, or I think of them as easily replaceable (unlike for example vacation photos).

That said, movies and music isn't exactly forever on iTunes. Plenty of people have reported certain movies they purchased on itunes disappearing or becoming no longer available when the publisher pulls it or under numerous other circumstances. It's certainly less than ideal to rely on that as storage. I am a proponent of buying movies on iTunes, but I say not having a backup of those downloads is like not storing a DVD in it's case - it's careless and eventually you will not be able to watch it anymore.
 
oneMadRssn said:
I agree. Movies and music are not personal in nature as you say, or I think of them as easily replaceable (unlike for example vacation photos).

That said, movies and music isn't exactly forever on iTunes. Plenty of people have reported certain movies they purchased on itunes disappearing or becoming no longer available when the publisher pulls it or under numerous other circumstances. It's certainly less than ideal to rely on that as storage. I am a proponent of buying movies on iTunes, but I say not having a backup of those downloads is like not storing a DVD in it's case - it's careless and eventually you will not be able to watch it anymore.
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Yeah for me it's a small price to pay... I'd rather not be worried and managing all that storage and stuff.
 
oneMadRssn said:
Kangaroo PC is a full-fledged x86 based Windows 10 machine. Sure it's tiny and portable, but it's still pretty much a desktop computer. If anything, the guy proves my point - an iPad is only a primary computer when it can be backed up and synced with an actual laptop/desktop.
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Actually i do not plan on syncing anything. I just have a large movie collection that the ipad pro cant run. I wouldn't want it to either because i leave it in my bag everyday. All of my new files are going to be done through icloud and the Ipad pro. The other machine is solely for my movies and entertainment on my television.
 
oneMadRssn said:
That's a very common backup folly. "I've never lost an important file, so why do I need a good backup solution?" The answer is, when you need it, it will be too late.
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I could make the exact same argument for adding meteorite damage coverage to my homeowners insurance policy. You have to weigh risk against probability, and experience tells me that I've mitigated the risk of losing my data as much as I feel is necessary. In the end, to each his own, but I stand by my original assertion that when pit against the computing needs of some users, an iPad could suffice as their only computing device.
 
I'm annoyed that the iPad pro isn't a replacement for my laptop :D

Haha in all seriousness, it comes with the territory. People are upset about it so they will express it. They are entitled to their opinions and you to yours. It's your decision whether or not you'll let it aggravate you.
 
sonicrobby said:
I'm annoyed that the iPad pro isn't a replacement for my laptop :D

Haha in all seriousness, it comes with the territory. People are upset about it so they will express it. They are entitled to their opinions and you to yours. It's your decision whether or not you'll let it aggravate you.
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Too true! I just had to get it off my chest.. so many reviewers and posters saying that, ughh! :p Now I feel better though!
 
No point having a go at the prople on MR that understand the pros/cons of the iPad pro, have a go at Tim for saying some delusional claims.

This whole BS came from the top.

I love my iPad pro, but no way can this replace a computer. What it can replace is any other tablet on the market and my iPad Air 2. It no surface contender.
 
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ZombiePete said:
I could make the exact same argument for adding meteorite damage coverage to my homeowners insurance policy. You have to weigh risk against probability, and experience tells me that I've mitigated the risk of losing my data as much as I feel is necessary. In the end, to each his own, but I stand by my original assertion that when pit against the computing needs of some users, an iPad could suffice as their only computing device.
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First, I think the analogy you're looking for is an anti-meteorite missile defense system or something. A good backup doesn't compensate you for the files you list, rather it prevents the loss to begin with. :p

Second, you're right it's about weighing the risks and costs. I think the most users value their irreplaceable photos much more than you give credit. Until iOS develops a bit more and allows for a more open environment, it isn't a suitable primary device. It is great an every-day-carry secondary device that I use more than my primary device though.
 
oneMadRssn said:
I think the reason the iPad Pro (and any iPad really) isn't a laptop replacement yet is because it is very impractical to have an iPad without also having a laptop or desktop to sync it with.
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I feel the same way. I think the iPad Pro is finally the compromise between the tablet and a MacBook Air. While it does not contain ports, I can get a fair amount of work done on it. I am an attorney and I am in Court a lot and prefer to take trial notes on my iPad with a stylus. Using the iPad Pro and the Pencil has been great. The keyboard is just as good (maybe not better per se) than any bluetooth keyboard. Do I miss certain things? Yes, multitasking is still nothing like a laptop or desktop. Ports, of course. I never expected not to use this tablet without a MacBook Air, but really it syncs with my monster iMac setup at home. If you are using a laptop in conjunction with a desktop, then maybe this could replace your laptop. It has somewhat for me, but I still am not letting go of my MacBook Air just yet, however, I am less likely to carry the MacBook Air and a tablet together now given what this allows me to do. Needs vary, but I don't think iOS could ever actually replace OSX and I certainly do not want it to. This device comes close and Tim Cook's overselling of the device is just that, overselling. It is another weapon in your mobile arsenal. If you can get it to work on the road by itself, great. The iPad is not merely a consumption device and I feel that many are too quick to say this. I have been using it in a substantially similar manner since the first generation iPad. I feel my needs and uses have grown and so has this iPad (quite literally). If it is not for you or you think it is for consumption only, you are entitled to your opinion. However, I think you might not be using it to its fullest potential with only a Netflix account.
 
thisisnotmyname said:
doesn't transmission have an app? I thought I remembered seeing one at one point.
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There is an app called iTransmission 5 that you can sideload and use, but I cannot seem to figure out where it saves the files. I used iFile to find it, but wasn't having any luck. I think the whole process doesn't work well while not being jailbroken. There is also a service called bitport.io that gives you cloud storage (up to 250GB) and downloads the torrent for you from a remote server and saves the file to your cloud storage where you can view from a browser or download the file itself to another service (dropbox, NAS, etc.). I have been playing around with it to see if this is feasible, but so far nothing has been as simple as using my MacBook Pro.
 
DNichter said:
There is an app called iTransmission 5 that you can sideload and use, but I cannot seem to figure out where it saves the files. I used iFile to find it, but wasn't having any luck. I think the whole process doesn't work well while not being jailbroken. There is also a service called bitport.io that gives you cloud storage (up to 250GB) and downloads the torrent for you from a remote server and saves the file to your cloud storage where you can view from a browser or download the file itself to another service (dropbox, NAS, etc.). I have been playing around with it to see if this is feasible, but so far nothing has been as simple as using my MacBook Pro.
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Good examples. Its probably possible to work hard with seeking workarounds for everything, but thats hardly worthwhile. Its like finding appropriate parts to take a limo to the ski field.
 
MH01 said:
No point having a go at the prople on MR that understand the pros/cons of the iPad pro, have a go at Tim for saying some delusional claims.

This whole BS came from the top.

I love my iPad pro, but no way can this replace a computer. What it can replace is any other tablet on the market and my iPad Air 2. It no surface contender.
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Threads like this were few and far between until TC said why buy a PC. You right, came from the top, and is BS
 
i just hate that there are SO MANY OF THEM. there are so many "is this a laptop replacement?" "is this a macbook replacement?" "can this replace your 11" macbook air?" "can this replace your 13" macbook air?" "what about an 11" macbook air from 2011?" each has its own separate thread

and like "is this REALLY a "pro" device?" "how is this a pro device?"

like, if you can't even do a search before posting maybe the issue is you don't know how to use things properly.
 
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AttilaTheHun said:
I don't want it as laptop I want it as a tablet only
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Just like I want this as a laptop. I traded my MacBook Pro for the iPad pro. Truth is that I rarely used the MacBook Pro. I usually used my iPad Air 2. Now I feel like I have both worlds.

We don't know what iOS 10 has in store. It might make it feel more like a laptop for some after that update.
 
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DNichter said:
The ONLY thing I use my MacBook Pro for is downloading movies. If I can download torrents without issue and transfer to an external drive or NAS, I would love to have just an iPad. I don't think we are there yet though, unless someone knows of a good way to do this.
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Don't see why it can't considering other ARM devices can torrent and use a file manager to move files to/from other ARM devices, NAS, PC, etc. over WIFI.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.delphicoder.flud.paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer
 
why are you annoyed? people use their devices in different ways. Nobody's habits will ever always be the same.
 
A lot of people don't know the difference between an iPP and PC so after hearing Tim Cook claim that it's a pro device that replaces the PC it's natural for them to get clarification or express their post-experience. For a consumer it can be a pro device but for professionals either illustrators, musicians, IT, etc. it's not pro.

Comment from pro musician and owner of video:

Seriously! I had been a happy Mac user since '05, but had dreamed of touchscreen music production since the original iPhone. Sure, there some music apps that are cool, but you always hit a dead end in what they're capable of. No fully functional, production program in iOS. I've given up hope that apple will develop a touchscreen COMPUTER, but meanwhile love my Surface Book. All the more impressive was I could do things like this with a Surface Pro, as I did before this. But the bigger screen is ideal. :)
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DNichter said:
The ONLY thing I use my MacBook Pro for is downloading movies. If I can download torrents without issue and transfer to an external drive or NAS, I would love to have just an iPad. I don't think we are there yet though, unless someone knows of a good way to do this.
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You can, if you want to go through 8 steps to make it happen, google.
 
mi7chy said:
Don't see why it can't considering other ARM devices can torrent and use a file manager to move files to/from other ARM devices, NAS, PC, etc. over WIFI.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.delphicoder.flud.paid

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer
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Agree, ask Apple why they choose not to allow a uTorrent app. We aren't allowed one. Great. Great computing platform when every other computer that exists can download torrents, except an iOS one
 
oneMadRssn said:
I think the reason the iPad Pro (and any iPad really) isn't a laptop replacement yet is because it is very impractical to have an iPad without also having a laptop or desktop to sync it with.
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What do people need to sync their iPads to desktops for? I use the cloud for everything
 
DNichter said:
The ONLY thing I use my MacBook Pro for is downloading movies. If I can download torrents without issue and transfer to an external drive or NAS, I would love to have just an iPad. I don't think we are there yet though, unless someone knows of a good way to do this.
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I have used a Synology NAS and the app DSDownload for a couple of years, it works perfectly for me.
 
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