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Having spent time now porting some of our iPad apps to the Fire, my iPad is safe...

The Fire is a compromise device that loses the best feature of the Kindle and falls considerably short of the iPad.

It just feels like a compromise device.
 
Holy crap, a little sensitive (and lacking in manners)? I actually DON'T know that you are correct. In fact, I didn't realize there was a right or wrong answer. A lot of people don't seem to have a problem reading on the current iPad. I'm sorry that you do, but don't assume everyone else is the same.

And you speak of Mannors ?

Actually I think YOU are being too sensitive. You took what I said and twisted it.
 
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This thread is utterly pathetic.

Pages upon pages of people arguing about consumer electronics. Have modern lives become so meaningless that this is what animates heated discussion?
 
This thread is utterly pathetic.

Pages upon pages of people arguing about consumer electronics. Have modern lives become so meaningless that this is what animates heated discussion?

This is a tech forum, you know...

But if you're looking for something a little more meaningful, I heard they are accepting requests for invites over at Pinterest. :rolleyes:
 
This is a tech forum, you know...

But if you're looking for something a little more meaningful, I heard they are accepting requests for invites over at Pinterest. :rolleyes:

There's a difference between discussion technology and what is going on in this thread.
 
It just reinforces my belief that your opinion isn't credible. ;)

Because the only way for my negative opinion of the Kindle to be credible enough for you would be to buy one and use it for a while, right? That would be a complete waste of my money but at least my opinion would be more credible to you, because I can't tell that a device falls short of the iPad just by looking at it in a shop and reading about it. In fact, why don't we all spend the rest of our lives watching the bad films we avoided in case our judgements based on the trailers and reviews we read were mistaken.

I'm happy for you owning a Kindle but the excitement of having a new toy will soon wear off and then maybe you would see its faults with a more critical eye and appreciate the attention to detail that Apple puts into all its products.
 
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I don't know if many people actually watched the ad. Everyone keeps talking about how they wouldn't want to carry around 3 device but did you not notice the kids using the other ones?!? She was not touching them. I mean if you can afford to buy a houseful of iPads more power to you. Or you can deal with everyone wanting to do something different on the same device but I think for the family person this ad does a very good job. :D
 
"Better" being a rather loaded term. An LCD screen is different than eInk. And, no, eInk is not just like a standard paper book; the black/white contrast is significantly less, and the resolution is abysmal.

E Ink is far better and more comfortable for your eyes than reading an LCD for long periods of time. E Ink serves its purpose almost perfectly.
 
I find it a phenomena that people often compare Kindles to iPads.

I mean, it's a Kindle. I don't see there having been any need to mention the iPad.

Unless they wanted to piggyback off of it's popularity, which I believe is what happened.

I mean, I could probably buy 100 book for the price of one Kindle, but you don't hear us talking about it all time.
 
:rolleyes: Ummm, have you looked at the name of the website you are posting it on? Macrumors.com. There may be some bias here.

i look at it this way: in the car world, i'm a subaru guy. a true car guy appreciates all makes and models. i consider myself to be a true gearhead. why does this need to be different for software/hardware manufacturers? sure i prefer one over another, but i'm not going to say it's a desperate attempt at a dying company because it's not my thing.

So, please, educate us poor Apple fanboys: where does one find this mythical tablet which is obviously as good or better than the iPad for less money?

I absolutely agree that you should buy the product that is right for you. If the Kindle Fire is right for you, there's no reason to buy an iPad! But you are claiming all of us who own an iPad are suckers who buy it for some odd brand allegiance rather than something else. That is completely out of line.

i need to prove nothing. this is my opinion. why do you think your ipad is a glorious end-all product? is it because of the apple branding and physical design? the screen size? if i was going to spend that much on a tablet, i would buy a galaxy tab. but i really don't have a use for a 10" slab of glass in my daily routine. it's too big to be a practical reading device and too small to replace my laptop.

the ipad is well-engineered and looks great, but at the end of the day you still need to use it. despite what most on this site believe, ios is not a very accepting platform. i could make the argument that the ipad is more directed towards kids than the kindle, simply because of the ui.

at least you're not one of the people that is just railing on the kindle because it isn't an ipad. i respect that.
 
Let's be real guys ... you can't downplay the value proposition of getting 3 Kindles for the price of an iPad. I think Amazon is smart to play this angle since it puts some perspective on how much money you are really spending.

I'm still [hopefully] buying an iPad 3. Just gotta sell my iPad 2 first
 
E Ink is far better and more comfortable for your eyes than reading an LCD for long periods of time. E Ink serves its purpose almost perfectly.

The Kindle Fire doesn't use e-ink. You cannot compare a standard Kindle to an iPad for practical purposes. That's like comparing a netbook to a high end desktop machine...
 
I think debate on this kind of topic depends on your situation.

On the one hand, there are people (usually young and/or single) who can only afford (or only want) one type of any kind of device.

On the other, people with families and/or good jobs must/can provide for more than just one person's tastes and needs.

Families often have different size and model TVs throughout the house, different types of phones per family member, and yes multiple types of tablets covering different needs and price ranges.
 
Because everyone has a need for 3 kindle fire's on a regular basis.

Posts like this are painful to read. Not only because you don't get it. But because it is CLEAR you posted without reading the thread at all because it's been discussed several times. But here it is one more time - just for you...

No one (not even Amazon) is trying to tell you that you should buy 3 devices.

They are saying - that for families or budget minded individuals that you don't have to spend the money on an iPad - there are options. If you're buying an iPad to e-read - there's the kindle. And if you want to eread AND email, watch movies and surf the next - there's the fire. And you can buy one or more devices for your family and still be less than an iPad.

To repeat - Amazon is not trying to sell you on having to carry or buy THREE devices.
 
I don't own an iPad yet... Crazy... I know... but it's coming... Still I got my fiance a Kindle Fire this past Christmas.

The Kindle Fire in its current state is a glorified e-book reader. The biggest mistake it has is that feeble "Amazon Kindle OS". It is so limited it feels like they put a castration belt around it.

I ran ICS 4 on it for about two weeks. If the Kindle shipped with ICS or a more flexible OS it would rock on. Wouldn't be too bad as a $200 tablet. But in our case the main reason my fiance uses her Kindle Fire is for reading books. The Kindle App for Android sucks. Most of the books she bought for some reason wouldn't be able to be opened on the kindle app. We tried it on our iPhones and they wouldnt open there either.

I had to revert the tablet back to "Amazon Kindle OS". It felt like going back to the stone-age. But her books all work.

I am going to patiently wait till uncle sam returns me some of my proverbial cash and I am going to pick up an iPad 3 when they come out.
 
I have a few iPads & Kindles for the family. They're distinctively different devices that simply share the same form factor.

Each has it's specific uses. The Kindle excels as an eReader, nothing else comes close. The same line of thinking applies to the iPad. It does everything else best.

If one can afford both, that's the optimum setup. Especially if your family reads a lot like mine does.
 
I just sold my 2007 Rav 4 and bought 177 Kindles, rather than 28 iPad 2s, HA!

Now, I'm set, I can use a new Kindle every 2 days and throw away the old, dirty one; beat that! Winning!!!!
 
Because the only way for my negative opinion of the Kindle to be credible enough for you would be to buy one and use it for a while, right? That would be a complete waste of my money but at least my opinion would be more credible to you, because I can't tell that a device falls short of the iPad just by looking at it in a shop and reading about it. In fact, why don't we all spend the rest of our lives watching the bad films we avoided in case our judgements based on the trailers and reviews we read were mistaken.

I'm happy for you owning a Kindle but the excitement of having a new toy will soon wear off and then maybe you would see its faults with a more critical eye and appreciate the attention to detail that Apple puts into all its products.

Well now you just sound ridiculous - you called the Kindle a "dinky plastic mess that will probably not last a year of real-world usage" - It's not even close to being a dinky plastic mess. You would know that had you spent more than 2 seconds looking at it in a store.

And I'm not sure where you've "read" about it - but there have been plenty of testimonials in this very thread completely refuting your claims.

I'm the owner of an iPad (and an iPhone, and a couple of MacBooks, and an Apple TV, etc...) - so I do appreciate the attention to detail Apple puts into its products. However, I'm not blinded enough to say that the Kindle - as an e-reader- is probably the best product of its kind on the market. I'm not comparing the two - as obviously there isn't a comparison.

Please enlighten me - what are the faults as far as you can tell without actually using one? And please forget about saying it's dinky plastic - that just isn't true at all.

I've owned enough electronics to not be "excited about a new toy"....If I didn't like it, I could have and would have returned it. I haven't seen the need - and in the past month and a half - I've read about 8 books on it. More than enough to know I made the right choice.
 
Well now you just sound ridiculous - you called the Kindle a "dinky plastic mess that will probably not last a year of real-world usage" - It's not even close to being a dinky plastic mess. You would know that had you spent more than 2 seconds looking at it in a store.

I've had my Kindle for somewhere between 2-3 years now and it a) is in the same condition I bought it and b) doesn't feel dinky at all.

I also own an iPad (1st gen) - which I love. It also is in the same "like new" condition.

Both have their merits. Both have their drawbacks. And when I say merits/drawbacks - it's not because I compare the functionality of both against each other = - but because on their own they serve different purposes in my life.
 
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