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Amazon Listing for Dual 2.7 Ghz PowerMac

Not too shabby

We all wish this was the "big one," but regardless, real-world performance isn't looking half bad:

http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/

The top-end Mac approximately doubles the performance of top-end x86 machines in some important apps. Obviously all manufacturers choose which tests are worth publicizing, but I don't think people need to fear these boxes being slow ;)

If you can't wait for a G6/whatever, these are certainly more for your money than you could get yesterday. Fastest OS X machines ever--I wouldn't mind one!

And cheaper displays are a good thing. 20" is now $200 less, 23" is now $300 less. 30" is still US$2999--unless you get the edu dicsount. BUT the top PowerMac's GPU is now powerful enough to drive the 30" without needing an upgrade, so that's a savings.

(New consumer Macs next Tuesday maybe?)
 
Gorbag said:
Still no bl**dy refurbs on the UK store.
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I check the "UK Refurb" store every wednesday. I don't know if people have noticed but it's actually the *European* Refurb Store , as the same products that are advertised in the UK on http://promo.euro.apple.com/promo/refurb/uk/ also appear *at that moment* on /de/ and /fr/.
Anyway there's only ever one pMac there for all of europe to fight over.

Ok on the lower price Apple displays, I've still just bought a 26" Dell LCD monitor/TV!! (Euro1200) this week for my Mac mini.
 
Drooling.

I'm Drooling.
Even a .2ghz bump looks pretty good when the product is finally shipping.
New Hardware and New Tiger make these machines the fastest on earth.
Well, almost. :cool:
 
JRM PowerPod said:
PEOPLE HELLO!!

DISPLAY PRICE CUTS

HELLO!!!!

PRICE CUTS

DISPLAYS = $799
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Good catch - finally getting more competitive to the Dell displays! Nice.
 
keysersoze said:
haha@ that's great! and they die in 2 years, just like the 2.5's.

are the 2.3 water cooled?
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They die in 2 years? Is this true? What happens does it run out of water? Can it be refilled? Does the mac warn you when water is low?
 
Hmmm so all that rubbish about shipping dates indicating updates was just that - rubbish. All apple were doing was installing Tiger. But now I'm still wondering - when are the imacs and emacs and ibooks going to get updated? Do we really have to wait until June do you think?
 
MacTruck said:
They die in 2 years? Is this true? What happens does it run out of water? Can it be refilled? Does the mac warn you when water is low?
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Come on, don't reply to the idiot Trools.
 
I for one am disappointed, i have waited for a real high end machine, it seems that apple thinks 200 mhz is a real upgrade in 1 year its not an upgrade but a joke, no proper video cards either. It seems that apple want me to finally breakdown and get a real machine, Sun here I come
:mad:
 
Gorbag said:
Where are all the dissappointed mac users??
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I'm still here - actually, I wasn't dissapointed until I saw it on Apple's site. 4GB Max on the 2.0DP? No modem? No PCI-X/E? Same old 9600 card? I paid $2000 for a single 1.8 (with PCI-X) two years ago - this doesn't seem like progress. But I need a new NLE machine - hope the Apple Store is giving away cool stuff.
 
£1050 for the 23" display. I paid that much 18 months ago for a 20" Cinema Display. Maybe it's time to upgrade.
 
Long time reader, first time poster here... I guess it took a PM update to make me speak... :D

I was looking at the dual 1.8 for my classroom before the update, and now the dual 2.0 is the same price point... So for $100 LESS (with the configuration i was looking at), I can get a faster processor, same ram, more HD space, better graphics card, faster DVD writer (dual layer too)... I think it sounds like a pretty sweet update to me!
 
jnicolso1 said:
I for one am disappointed, i have waited for a real high end machine, it seems that apple thinks 200 mhz is a real upgrade in 1 year its not an upgrade but a joke, no proper video cards either. It seems that apple want me to finally breakdown and get a real machine, Sun here I come
:mad:
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If I were looking for a Server I'd look at Solaris X for sure.
But, come on the Mac Desktop is the best in the world.
 
"Choose from the latest graphics card options from both ATI and NVIDIA... "

OH right right..thats why there is NO X800. ITs ON THE FREAKING TIGER PAGE and you can't even get one built to order, yeah....anyone want to buy a 9600?

So my options are get a card that is a few revisions old or one that is the size of a bread box and sucks up a PCI slot. I hope this is ATI with production shortages...actually no...i don't want that either haha.
 
Well if I'd bought a dual 2GHz when the G5's were first announced I wouldn't be disappointed to keep it. As it is I'll keep my dual 2.5 until something actually worthwhile happens.
I certainly don't think we will get updates at WWDC, even if they weren't going to ship until the end of the summer. The 3GHz promise killed a lot of apple sales, announcing products but with huge delays would do the same to the current crop. So it looks like either Paris or Mac World San Fran 2006 for updates that matter.
 
MikeBike said:
Come on, don't reply to the idiot Trools.
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Trool? WTF is that?

"These liquid-cooling systems, which were designed by Delphi, manufactured in Mexico, and shipped to Apple's manufacturing facilities in Asia, have been the topic of concern at several Apple exec meetings.

According to reliable sources, Delphi only guarantees the cooling systems to Apple for a period of 2.5 years, though the expected life-span of each unit is rumored to be closer to 2 years. The lifespan is reportedly limited by potenial leakage of the thermal conductive fluid inside the systems. Apple reportedly fears the fluid could cause damage to consumer's valuables or expensive carpets, which would leave the company exposted to potential lawsuits."

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=993
 
MacTruck said:
I'm not familiar with liquid cooling so I fell for it but who knows. 2 yrs from now there could be alot of dry coolers out there.
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If this was a DELL forum you would be rightly concerned about the longevity of the cooling system parts.
 
I think the prices are pretty good, somewhat.

Don't know what the ATI 9650 is worth in terms of perf but the pbm Apple has is there's too big a gap between the ATI 9650 and the GeForce Ultra DDL (+£300) so I can understand for pricing consideration they don't include the GeForce in the base config.

Ah and they've done the usual... putting the dumb down motherboard with no PCI-X and only 4 memory slots in the x2 2GHz version :rolleyes:

I'm still bloody happy to have bought mine last year because frankly I can spend £50 on a dual-layer DVD-R (I won't anyway 'cos the blank dual discs cost a fortune) and I'm up to date with this release in terms of hardware with the x2 2.3GHz (except the speed bump).
So I'm now just waiting for my Tiger box and probably will buy a WD Raptor SATA 74Gb for my boot disc :)

I strongly believe they need to sit down at Apple and make sure the next Powermac release has PCIe, dual core CPUs, option for 10K Raptor HD, a decent graphics card offering like base config, +£70, +£160, +£300, hardware raid, space in the case for 4 x HDs (for RAID 0+1).

Steve must be tearing his hair out to not be able to get to 3Ghz almost 2 years after he said so (1-year late and still not there...) ;)
I'd like to be a fly on the wall during a meeting with IBM :D

Anyway for all those disappointed, cheer up, it's not too shaby an update and tiger is with us!
 
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