Amazon Listing for Dual 2.7 Ghz PowerMac

$799 still seems high for a 20" monitor. I got my Dell 2005FPW for $430, and the quality is quite higher than that of the Apple.
 
keysersoze said:
Trool? WTF is that?

"These liquid-cooling systems, which were designed by Delphi, manufactured in Mexico, and shipped to Apple's manufacturing facilities in Asia, have been the topic of concern at several Apple exec meetings.

According to reliable sources, Delphi only guarantees the cooling systems to Apple for a period of 2.5 years, though the expected life-span of each unit is rumored to be closer to 2 years. The lifespan is reportedly limited by potenial leakage of the thermal conductive fluid inside the systems. Apple reportedly fears the fluid could cause damage to consumer's valuables or expensive carpets, which would leave the company exposted to potential lawsuits."

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=993
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Sorry, didn't see that "news" item.
Still, I'd want to second source that rumor.
I highly doubt Apple wouldn't have done better research and gotten at least a 5 year warrenty. No company would have put in a liquid cooling system with out better assurances of longevity. Apple, being the first, I would have assumed, would have gotten a warrenty of 10 years.
 
Finally

Finally my wait is over and my G4 500 can retire to the less stressful life of personal web server for testing my code. Dual 2.3 and a 20" Display. I'm pretty happy. The price drop on the cinema displays is a nice little surprise as is the Radeon 9650. Now the waiting begins again. By some minor miracle I was able to exert some will power and take the free shipping. Hmmm... what a terrible time to show some will power. :)
 
fluidinclusion said:
NO ONE IN HIS RIGHT MIND would complain if they were dual core 2.7 GHz, PCIe, blu-ray, ATI X850 for $2,500. Apple wouldn't be able to make enough of them.
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I don't think there's any way Apple could sell a Dual core 2.7 at that config at that price when the final dual-core chips are initially out, if ever.

I base that on a prior post where someone was saying the cheapest Dual-core opteron starts at roughly $1000.00US. So if you figure that there will be more DC Opteron's purchased in bulk, then DC G5's (the Opteron market's gotta be bigger then the Powermac and/or Xserve), what's a dual core G5 chip going to cost Apple?

And supposedly the DC G5's don't have Altivec instructions - if that's true, would you still buy a Dual core G5 system if it were announced today?
 
MikeBike said:
If this was a DELL forum you would be rightly concerned about the longevity of the cooling system parts.
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No offence, but it's not like the liquid cooling system is glued together by Steve Jobs himself. If Dell were selling PCs with liquid cooling it may well be the same company, Delphi, that manufactures the PM blocks that would have been making Dell's. The issue is very real, since no one knows for sure how long will these last and what will be the result of eventual leak.
 
MacTruck said:
How do you know its the 8gb ram version? It doesn't say on apples site.
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Series 1 and 2 had the capability of supporting up to 8gb of memory. The rumor is the new powermacs in the 2.0ghz range support only 4gb of maximum memory.
 
840quadra said:
Series 1 and 2 had the capability of supporting up to 8gb of memory. The rumor is the new powermacs in the 2.0ghz range support only 4gb of maximum memory.
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I don't think it's a rumor. The dual 2GHz has the crappy motherboard that used to be in the dual 1.8GHz a few months ago, only 4 dimm slots.
 
Mods: Please close this thread and let's move all the discussions over to the official announcement thread.
 
how comes the single g5 isn´t talked about anymore anywhere on the official site ?... the info page states that there are only 3 dual g5 systems... (at least on the new german subsite). so will this one still be dropped ?
i know the single cpu version is still in the store... but i can´t find a reference to it in the copy text...
power mac mini ? ... just try to make sure you guys have something to do today :p i had to post something after reading for days
 
tf23 said:
I don't think there's any way Apple could sell a Dual core 2.7 at that config at that price when the final dual-core chips are initially out, if ever.

I base that on a prior post where someone was saying the cheapest Dual-core opteron starts at roughly $1000.00US. So if you figure that there will be more DC Opteron's purchased in bulk, then DC G5's (the Opteron market's gotta be bigger then the Powermac and/or Xserve), what's a dual core G5 chip going to cost Apple.
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Intial DC AMD systems will cost a whole lot, granted. For example a dual core Opteron systems (2.2Ghz) @ $5000US will be sold by Levono/IBM from the second week in June.

The price will not stay up like that though. Once the fabbing capacety goes up for dual core, the duals will phase out the singles more or less, and at the same price points as their older single core counterparts.

<speculation>What Apple could do is release a high end dual dualcore setup (an xMac) in the same price bracket as the Levono/IBM offerings in June, and then let the Power Mac and xMac gravitate downwards in the pricing structure as prices for dual core CPUs fall. This way Apple will have a tower in the iMac bracket, broadening the market offering in that segment by offering power and expandabillety in place of convenience and formfactor. The xMac would take the pricepoint of the current Power Mac. </speculation>

And supposedly the DC G5's don't have Altivec instructions - if that's true, would you still buy a Dual core G5 system if it were announced today?
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You are thinking of the POWER 5, the 970MP has got Altivec/VMX.
 
Lurch_Mojoff said:
No offence, but it's not like the liquid cooling system is glued together by Steve Jobs himself. If Dell were selling PCs with liquid cooling it may well be the same company, Delphi, that manufactures the PM blocks that would have been making Dell's. The issue is very real, since no one knows for sure how long will these last and what will be the result of eventual leak.
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Do you have a radiator in your car?
Do you know it's designed to at least last 5 years?
Do you environmental controls in your car?
Do you know they are designed to last 10 years?
 
MikeAtari said:
Do you have a radiator in your car?
Do you know it's designed to at least last 5 years?
Do you environmental controls in your car?
Do you know they are designed to last 10 years?
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No one but a fool or a Troll would believe that Apple would build a liquid cooling system to last 2 years.

Apple forums get infected with DELL employee's on coffee break.
 
MikeAtari said:
No one but a fool or a Troll would believe that Apple would build a liquid cooling system to last 2 years.

Apple forums get infected with DELL employee's on coffee break.
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Why don't you tell us what you really think? ;)
 
StarbucksSam said:
Do you think Apple can do anything to amazon about this?
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I think Amazon are a MAJOR reseller, that Apple aren't about to take to court. However, I imagine there will be quite a stern "chat" over the cock up, Apple exec to Amazon exec :eek: Wish I could hear it :D
 
mac n cheese said:
If any of you know anything about foreign built generic four-wheelers, you know that you can get one that looks pretty sweet, has as more horsepower, for 1/3 of the price of a Honda or Yamaha. I would never buy one of the mass produced generics because they are pieces of *****. Hondas will run great forever.

I don't need to draw that parallel out much more than to say I'll always bitch about the price, etc.. of Macs and Hondas, but I'll always buy them, because I can always count on them to run smooth. PCs are a bit faster and cheaper....but they are also pieces of *****.
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Don't forget Toyotas! My Toyota Echo was built in Japan, and is one of the least expensive, most reliable, and most efficient cars out there :)
 
Wow there tiger. You must not have read anything else in my post, because I basically argue exactly what you just said. Just watch where you shoot, ok? ;)

FYI, I have an xbox when I want to play games.

Antitechgeek said:
Alright.... I have heard enough. "Where's the dual core? Where's the dual 3.0 GHz?"

Boo hoo.

Macs are not intended for people who want to sit at home and play Quake and download "private" videos. I get this feeling that the people complaining about the lack of upgrades are the same people that would tell you their 180hp Kia is better than a 170hp Lexus. Crunch all the numbers you want, but when it comes down to it there is a reason you are all visiting MacRumors.com..... the reason is simple: Macs are the best you can get with the greatest reliability, software and OS on the market and we are all anxiously awaiting the next generation of G5's.

I will be buying one ASAP after using my G4 for 6 years. How many PC users can say that? (And if you can, how many thousands have you dropped into your Frankenstein PC to try and keep it up to date?"

Macs are the standard for design professionals. I could care less if Doom 3 doesn't run fast enough. If that's what you are looking for, head to the nearest Walmart. :rolleyes:
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Talking with those who don't read Macrumors everyday and/or keep up on Apple as much as me/us/you, people seem very interested in the PM updates... I'm the Mac guru in my area (mostly b/c i read every rumor site i can find daily) and when I was telling people about the updates they seemed to think it sounded pretty sweet... When I tell them about the bigger hard drives, video cards, and DVD drives, and then show them the processor comparisons (which are, granted, on Apple's site) people are pretty impressed...

But, on the other hand, I guess you could argue that "PRO" computers should impress the Pros! Hmmm... a dilemma... :confused:
 
iWillard said:
Talking with those who don't read Macrumors everyday and/or keep up on Apple as much as me/us/you, people seem very interested in the PM updates... I'm the Mac guru in my area (mostly b/c i read every rumor site i can find daily) and when I was telling people about the updates they seemed to think it sounded pretty sweet... When I tell them about the bigger hard drives, video cards, and DVD drives, and then show them the processor comparisons (which are, granted, on Apple's site) people are pretty impressed...

But, on the other hand, I guess you could argue that "PRO" computers should impress the Pros! Hmmm... a dilemma... :confused:
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The prices in the Amazon website leak did not match Apple's actual prices, so everyone was complaining thinking that not only were the specs only marginally increased, but the prices was too high also.

The reality is that the prices went down, while the specs went up, so it's good. Unfortunately, the CPU speeds did not go as high as many had hoped, and while the graphics cards had a bit of improvement, it wasn't as much as people wanted.
 
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