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Amazon Listing for Dual 2.7 Ghz PowerMac

From www.theinquirer.net: (posted today)

"Wait two months for IBM dual core Opteron workstation

High spec machine starts at $5,000+"

"But IBM said the planned availability date for these machines is June 27th, 2005.

Prices start at $5,649 for a 2.2GHz dual core system equipped with an 80GB Serial ATA drive, an Nvidia Quadro FX14000, and a DVD/CD-RW. A 275 Opteron has a list price of $2,699."

Opteron 275 is 2.2 Ghz, 2 MB L2 cache. I configured one and got a price of $2472, here:
http://www.aslab.com/products/workstations/customize/marquisk825.cgi
But it has a Radeon 700 graphics card. I threw in a software package at the bottom to match the free software you get from Apple. Also it comes with Linux, which I assume is inferior to Tiger.
 
Hiroshige said:
From www.theinquirer.net: (posted today)

"Wait two months for IBM dual core Opteron workstation

High spec machine starts at $5,000+"

"But IBM said the planned availability date for these machines is June 27th, 2005.

Prices start at $5,649 for a 2.2GHz dual core system equipped with an 80GB Serial ATA drive, an Nvidia Quadro FX14000, and a DVD/CD-RW. A 275 Opteron has a list price of $2,699."

Opteron 275 is 2.2 Ghz, 2 MB L2 cache. I configured one and got a price of $2472, here:
http://www.aslab.com/products/workstations/customize/marquisk825.cgi
But it has a Radeon 700 graphics card. I threw in a software package at the bottom to match the free software you get from Apple. Also it comes with Linux, which I assume is inferior to Tiger.
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I wouldn't say Linux is inferior to Tiger... it's cheaper though.
 
Yvan256 said:
Funniest post so far.

(in case you weren't joking, Apple doesn't make CPUs, and switching to AMD would require switching to x86, which would be a huge mistake).
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I wasn't joking. I know Apple doesn't make CPU's. But if IBM can't provide them with decent upgrades and a good supply, its time to move on. I think they should look at AMD. I'm not saying make OS X run on the generic intel/amd platform. Apple could use the Opteron x86-64 processors and still keep control over the hardware just like they do now. AMD is much better at producing the CPU's than IBM is apparently.

And the Opterons absolutely rock. They smoke the G5's. By the way, I own a dual 2.0ghz G5.
 
Just a simple question to weeping guys..!

Yep, I'll make it simple...notwithstanding the fact that we don't have PCIe yet (even though we haven't reached the limits of AGP) or the best GFX cards in the market, I would like to know WHICH PC system is FASTER and MORE powerful than a Dual G5 2.7...no o'clocked crap, please...just mass-produced products...

Could you show me that? Thanks.
 
840quadra said:
I have a REV B, and I couldn't be happier.

Rumor has it the new 2.0's are limited to 4gb of memory. From what it sounds like, it is an overclocked 1.8 GHZ.
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If it is the case then it's more likely to be 2GHz chip in place of 1.8GHz, doubt Apple would risk overclocking...
 
It's all about the iPod, kids.

Apple doesn't really give a crap about their Macs right now. Not when they can be making bubble-gum sized music players and ugly-colored iPod minis! It's the MUSIC REVOLUTION people!!!!

Who cares about their loyal core customer base! I'm sure the popularity of the iPod will last forever and ever....right? It will won't it? Because....if it didn't...well we'd be left with...nah - that'll never happen.

If there is one thing we know about Steve Jobs - it's that he NEVER EVER EVER has made a bad decision when working for Apple.
 
BRLawyer said:
I would like to know WHICH PC system is FASTER and MORE powerful than a Dual G5 2.7...no o'clocked crap.
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http://www.barefeats.com/macvpc.html

For example:

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quick question, if I buy last models dual 2.5 brand new, am I entitled to some sort of tiger upgrade at reduced price???


Sorry if this has been asked before.
 
jocknerd said:
I wasn't joking. I know Apple doesn't make CPU's. But if IBM can't provide them with decent upgrades and a good supply, its time to move on. I think they should look at AMD. I'm not saying make OS X run on the generic intel/amd platform. Apple could use the Opteron x86-64 processors and still keep control over the hardware just like they do now. AMD is much better at producing the CPU's than IBM is apparently.

And the Opterons absolutely rock. They smoke the G5's. By the way, I own a dual 2.0ghz G5.
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Okay, but x86 stills sucks compared to RISC/PPC (too much legacy crap). I'm all for AMD making CPUs for Apple as long as they're PPCs.
 
Mav451 said:
You cannot simply compare Ghz like that. Things like latencies, cache size, bus size, # of pipelines, etc. are different. P-M, for example, absolutely flies when you overclock the FSB b/c it is like an Athlon XP (in having a restrictively small bus). Also, you may claim that Athlon (XP or 64) haven't gone much above 2.4GHz, but compare a OCed CPU like mine to a stock 3800+ (2.4Ghz), and I know mine can't even come close to a A64-core.
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You have a real problem with that hair trigger response, don't you?

Believe it or not, I wasn't criticizing the AMD or Intel CPUs or trying to make them look bad in comparison with the G5. Take another look and you'll see I was comparing clockspeed increases since that's what's causing all the disappointment. The G5 is pretty much in line with the other widely used CPUs. I could have researched the Athlon 64 but got tired of it.
 
myapplseedshurt said:
I knew this was coming, couldn't say anything due to NDA
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And we're all impressed. You're special. Glad you felt compelled to tell us.
Stop pining for attention. Go home.
 
Hiroshige said:
From www.theinquirer.net: (posted today)

"Wait two months for IBM dual core Opteron workstation

High spec machine starts at $5,000+"

"But IBM said the planned availability date for these machines is June 27th, 2005.

Prices start at $5,649 for a 2.2GHz dual core system equipped with an 80GB Serial ATA drive, an Nvidia Quadro FX14000, and a DVD/CD-RW. A 275 Opteron has a list price of $2,699."

Opteron 275 is 2.2 Ghz, 2 MB L2 cache. I configured one and got a price of $2472, here:
http://www.aslab.com/products/workstations/customize/marquisk825.cgi
But it has a Radeon 700 graphics card. I threw in a software package at the bottom to match the free software you get from Apple. Also it comes with Linux, which I assume is inferior to Tiger.
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So how many people here are actually going to pony up $5000 for a machine?

The ONLY 'update' i see happening at WWDC (PM wise) is a 'new PM' that doesn't replace anything but is some kind of bloated supermachine that will undoubdetly be mucho $$$
 
topgunn said:
That clears up a question I had about pricing. So no dual PM for $1,499. I wonder if the 2.7GHz is air-cooled.
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If the 2.5 GHz are water cooled, how would it be possible for the 2.7GHz to be air cooled? Did the laws of physics change? Did Apple decide to run the fans at max all the time, rendering phone conversations in the same room impossible? I think not. I would take a guess that the 2.3 GHz are also water cooled, but maybe not.
 
i give up

normailly when lame updates like this happen ( and they seem to happen quite frequently with Apple) I like to come in here and tell everyone to quit their belly-aching.

HOWEVER, this IS really lame.

If Jobs hadn't said a 3GHz over a year ago, then MAYBE I would cut them a LITTLE slack, but honestly, HOW COULD HE BE THAT FAR OFF?

What did IBM tell him?

Maybe his RDF has finally affected HIM.
 
My friend who has been waiting for about a month for a new PM is dissapointed at these updates. oh well, i'm curious to see what the iMac updates bring. Even though I just got one two months ago :(
 
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