Just saying: you do realize that the average selling price of any particular Apple product is probably about $800...while Amazon, Walmart, etc. have a much lower average. Let alone the total shopping cart total. Again, just saying.
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Amazon Media Event Set for September 28th, Tablet Announcement Expected
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Just saying: you do realize that the average selling price of any particular Apple product is probably about $800...while Amazon, Walmart, etc. have a much lower average. Let alone the total shopping cart total. Again, just saying.
Bravo. This is a very well thought out response. However one thing I want to add (and you mentioned it) is that the Amazon ecosystem is what will really help the tablet sell. People already use Amazon for shopping. They also read kindle books. Some people use the music streaming service. But they all feel like different things even though they are one company. The Amazon tablet is what will bring this ecosystem together. By having all these services consolidated on a device that can use them all effectively (and at a price point that makes people happy), then it will be a big success.
That's really an untrue statement. Amazon has only recently come to a break even or slight profit on the Kindle and was always selling them at a loss or near cost. Amazon is a big retailer, but their business is not in manufacturing devices, so they pay a much higher cost for parts and components than Apple, or Samsung, or Sony. They also have to have third parties develop the hardware. Their buying power isn't in that area. However, to use a Kindle you need to buy from the Kindle store... and there is where Amazon has HUGE buying power and makes a killing. Whatever hit they take on a device, they make it back almost instantly in book sales.
If anyone bothers to read the linked article (I was trying to source it yesterday to back a post I made about the device), this isn't a true tablet experience.
It's Amazon's version of the Nook Color (and also not suped up under the hood). I'm hoping this guy is wrong about the tablet, because it's a huge disappointment if it's just a Nook Color knock off.
Amazon has the echo system that could make them really compete with the iPad (and I'm all for it. They are MUCH cheaper for content across the board and equally as competative in selection as itunes/ibooks).
Only an Amazon App store? Meh. 7" model? Eh. Hardware limitations... boo. If they were smart, they'd put out a killer tablet at a hefty undercutting of the iPad, use the Kindle model for loss leading, sell a ton, and make it back in echo system sales.
Dude - you're a niche player. So buy your Asus E-Pad Transformer or whatever and stop bellyaching about how Apple is ripping you off. You do have choices!
Actually, he is correct. Apple is a bigger retailer in net sales. In 2010 apple posted $64 billion in sales vs. Amazon's $34 billion.
I think you are thinking in lines of "sales per square foot" which is a totally different concept. (And Amazon doesn't have this metric as they have no stores).
A Walmart store will have higher annual sales than a single Apple store, but the Apple store will have higher sales per square foot.
I actually think it's foolish to cite sales per square foot for Apple. It's a metric used to compare retailers, but more along the lines of how well does The Gap perform against American Eagle. (Two like retailers) or Macy's Vs. Kohl's. You can't toss in a retailer who's average units per transaction is 1.5 items with the average item ringing in a $800 and use that to argue sales against another retailer who isn't selling high ticket items.
Comparing Apple to Amazon is like comparing apples to oranges. They both sell some digital media, and that's about it. Amazon is a reseller of other people's goods... Apple is a purveyor of their highest margin goods.
Or a couple of Norman Foster's buildings
Look how nicely they fit together!
Reminds me of a classic SNL sketch.
Color E-Ink
I quoted you because I am just curious, did yoU pay full price for the TouchPad or did you get it at the extreme discount? Anyway, I read the article that was linked, and I am extremely disappointed to see that this new Amazon Tablet supposedly has a regular LCD screen and not a Color E-Ink screen. For me personally, I do not use my iPad to read books at all because it's much better on my eyes to just read a book or use my Kindle. I was hoping for a touch screen from them, but using the new color e-ink and not LCD. Maybe Amazon will release two versions. I guess we'll see come Wednesday.
I quoted you because I am just curious, did yoU pay full price for the TouchPad or did you get it at the extreme discount? Anyway, I read the article that was linked, and I am extremely disappointed to see that this new Amazon Tablet supposedly has a regular LCD screen and not a Color E-Ink screen. For me personally, I do not use my iPad to read books at all because it's much better on my eyes to just read a book or use my Kindle. I was hoping for a touch screen from them, but using the new color e-ink and not LCD. Maybe Amazon will release two versions. I guess we'll see come Wednesday.
This product will be a disaster. Here you have Walmart of the internet trying to get into high-end tablets... not going to happen. It would be like Southwest Airlines to decide to open fast food restaurants across the country. Amazon has no expertise in this business and their product will be another money-losing massive failure. Customers do not want tablets, they want iPads. Amazon should try to innovate in new markets, not copy Apple at every step.
Ummm.... Have you heard of the Kindle?
Customers want affordable, convenient access to content.
Most of them couldn't care less if there's a half-eaten apple logo on it. Many of them want an open market for apps.
One in nineteen¹ will want to pay twice the price for a lesser device with the half-eaten apple logo - and that keeps Cupertino in business.
¹ BS statistic, but that's the number for personal computers....
I didn't. I posted it 4 posts above yours.
The Appelonians forgot about WalMart. And they probably think that Apple is a bigger company than Walmart and Exxon too. WalMart had over $400 billion in revenue last year. But Apple is bigger.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner~! But this is where Apple "got it" from the beginning. But you can't discount the build quality of the iPad compared to competitors. The screen is also top notch, the multi-touch works great.
I don't think anyone can argue that the iPad isn't a good product with an industry leading touch screen. And great support. The worshiping is what is lame.
Ummm, how can you compare the "build quality" of the not even announced (and maybe won't be announced) Amazon tablet to the Ipad?
Or its screen quality, or its multi-touch abilities?
Or the very real possibility that for half-price for the Amazon, most people won't care if the tablet with the same functionality and the half-eaten apple logo is slightly prettier for twice the price?
No. People say they what this or that feature, but no all they really wants a low price. Anazon can sell these at a loss because to be useful you'd need to buy content from Amazon. These tablets will be media viewers not general purpose devices like iPads that can run apps like Garage Band.
What if Steve hadn't stolen the Apple logo from the Beatles and had used another fruit or vegetable instead? Would Grapefruit Computer Inc. have created the same cult? How about Eggplant Elecrtonics? Cucumber Computers?
diddly?
What about the Kumquat Squat 512KiB ?
What if Steve hadn't stolen the Apple logo from the Beatles and had used another fruit or vegetable instead? Would Grapefruit Computer Inc. have created the same cult? How about Eggplant Elecrtonics? Cucumber Computers?
What about the Kumquat Squat 512KiB ?
What about the Kumquat Squat 512KiB ?
It would have been an entirely different outcome. There would be no kumquat fanboys or fanatics. Certain users who are currently here would have found other more productive interests in life.
Not the media event invitation I was hoping for.
You mean, these aren't the Droids you're looking for?
Is it really necessary to have an event for just a Kindle? Yeah its color, but its just a Kindle.
Its a tablet.
Oh cool, another Android Tablet. Sold to undercut the iPad.
In terms of what Amazon has to offer out of the box (music, movies, TV, books, apps), an Amazon tablet would be the most equal competitor to the iPad.