You just can't stand the fact that Apple sold more iPads in a quarter then Amazon sells Kindles in a year. It's facts like those that drive you insane.
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Amazon Media Event Set for September 28th, Tablet Announcement Expected
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You just can't stand the fact that Apple sold more iPads in a quarter then Amazon sells Kindles in a year. It's facts like those that drive you insane.
For accounting purposes "shipped" is largely irrelevant - what counts is when the title passes to the buyer. If the retailer or distributer takes title FOB shipping point it counts as a sale, since the producer no longer owns it, the consignee does. For reporting purposes, it is a sale, you debit inventory and credit AR.
For Apple, or any company, to try track all retail sales to end users would be far too complicated and really add little if any value; and really complicate the accounting for revenue and expenses.
Companies get into trouble when they falsify the shipping numbers - such as by shipping bricks instead of products; or recognize "Bill and hold" transactions that do not have legitimate reasons for the shipper to hold the goods and so title does not pass to the buyer.
Nook killer...
Yes well stuff like what we're seeing isn't really a serious contender to the iPad. Amazon doesn't have Apple's skill in software and hardware design.
True - Apple has done a good job of promoting the capabilities of the iPad and staking out it's market, however, that doesn't mean all
it simply means that people who are willing to shell out $500+ for a tablet like the iPad's more than competitors products at the same price point. That doesn't mean, as many here seem to think, that there is no demand, let alone more demand, for a device with fewer feature or apps at a significantly lower price point. If done right, Amazon has the ability to provide a significant part of the most commonly used features of an iPad at a much lower price. That will be compelling and bring Amazon customers who don't view the iPad as having a good price value point, despite the large number of apps, as well as some potential iPad buyers. I doubt they will make a significant, or even noticeable, dent in iPad sales; but I think they aren't gunning so much for the iPad as for a far more lucrative market of which the iPad is but one piece of the puzzle.
The rumored 6GB of internal storage sounds anemic, so I better hope they included an expandable memory slot. I will be purchasing the memory cards from Amazon anyway.
I pretty much expect something in the line of a Barnes & Noble Nook Color competitor so my expectations are not that high, but we shall see. Heck, I don't even think the interface will be that easy to read considering how confusing it can be with the different menus on Amazon's own site and how confusing it is on the music cloud service compared to Google's. And there is no such thing as an iPad killer no matter how many times bored journalists keep asking for it in an article. Apple is the only one with the Midas touch right now. Apple can PRICE GOUGE millions of people and can get away with it. When you have that much money and power, you can get away with alot of things. Ask OJ.
Amazon has great potential though just from the store. Google never had a store to keep you locked into an ecosystem. Amazon has and they sell far more stuff and at better prices than even iTunes. Remember, it was Google that needed an Amazon app to let Android users buy music.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393502,00.asp#fbid=BVl2ImyPz53
I pretty much expect something in the line of a Barnes & Noble Nook Color competitor so my expectations are not that high, but we shall see. Heck, I don't even think the interface will be that easy to read considering how confusing it can be with the different menus on Amazon's own site and how confusing it is on the music cloud service compared to Google's. And there is no such thing as an iPad killer no matter how many times bored journalists keep asking for it in an article. Apple is the only one with the Midas touch right now. Apple can PRICE GOUGE millions of people and can get away with it. When you have that much money and power, you can get away with alot of things. Ask OJ.
Amazon has great potential though just from the store. Google never had a store to keep you locked into an ecosystem. Amazon has and they sell far more stuff and at better prices than even iTunes. Remember, it was Google that needed an Amazon app to let Android users buy music.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393502,00.asp#fbid=BVl2ImyPz53
So in your mind if I think the iPad could benefit from an unlimited data plan and some more battery life I'm insane?
The rumored 6GB of internal storage sounds anemic, so I better hope they included an expandable memory slot. I will be purchasing the memory cards from Amazon anyway.
I pretty much expect something in the line of a Barnes & Noble Nook Color competitor so my expectations are not that high, but we shall see. Heck, I don't even think the interface will be that easy to read considering how confusing it can be with the different menus on Amazon's own site and how confusing it is on the music cloud service compared to Google's. And there is no such thing as an iPad killer no matter how many times bored journalists keep asking for it in an article. Apple is the only one with the Midas touch right now. Apple can PRICE GOUGE millions of people and can get away with it. When you have that much money and power, you can get away with alot of things. Ask OJ.
Amazon has great potential though just from the store. Google never had a store to keep you locked into an ecosystem. Amazon has and they sell far more stuff and at better prices than even iTunes. Remember, it was Google that needed an Amazon app to let Android users buy music.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393502,00.asp#fbid=BVl2ImyPz53
So, before we even see this thing, folks are already having Amazon concede first place.
In which case, it's not a big stretch, and indeed quite easy, to relax standards a little more and allow for a "respectable" third place.
The more we hear of this thing falling short of the iPad, the bigger the cushion some are willing to give Amazon.
"Hey, it doesn't have to be amazing or revolutionize the market" (which is kinda what you have to do at this point), "it just has to be the best . . . of the worst?"
Pretty soon it'll be, "hey, they're still in the top six! That's amazing!"
We've seen the whole "serious contender to iPad" prognostications before. We'd do well you count them as patently false until these "serious contenders" prove otherwise.
So in your mind if I think the iPad could benefit from an unlimited data plan and some more battery life I'm insane?
To be fair, the unlimited data plan has nothing to do with Apple or the iPad.
Apple should try and build an OS just for the ipad .. you don't want a full fledged OS Lion on it but you need something more than iOS you know .. somewhere in the middle im thinking .. what do you think?
The Amazon Pad would have value for me IF:
* stream all Prime video content to it
* be able to perform all my Amazon.com shopping tasks in a nice rich client app provided by Amazon
* stream from the Amazon music cloud
* stream all Prime video content to it
* be able to perform all my Amazon.com shopping tasks in a nice rich client app provided by Amazon
* stream from the Amazon music cloud
Little Mac or iOS news these days.
I'm glad that they are following someone that is selling some products. I probably spend more money at Amazon than with Apple.
Let's face it recently MacRumors & any other Mac website has because MacLawSuits or let's see the same iPhone rumors for the 10th go round.
It's good to see that someone is still working from those that look on the outside.
I'm glad that they are following someone that is selling some products. I probably spend more money at Amazon than with Apple.
Let's face it recently MacRumors & any other Mac website has because MacLawSuits or let's see the same iPhone rumors for the 10th go round.
It's good to see that someone is still working from those that look on the outside.
You know that the music Amazon sells are raw mp3s, right? This tablet will be less of a corporate conduit into your wallet than the iPad. Which, incidentally, is why I won't buy one, at least at $499: I want something substantially cheaper, or that runs arbitrary software that I can take to other platforms. I don't want to get locked into an "ecosystem" by a company that thinks it's awesome to not provide roadmaps.
there is word that Amazon will be releasing a smartphone as well next year called the 'Amazon Torch'
Most likely, these tablets, and maybe this phone will come with free Amazon Prime membership, and make things extremely easy for you to buy off Amazon. But what if, you get a discount every time you buy off an Amazon tablet or phone? Like a 2-5% discount per item. That would be a tremendous selling point imo.
and btw, this isn't going to be your usual Android OS on there, its going to be heavily forked. Its quite possible that the OS will look nothing like what we see on Android OS now.
Most likely, these tablets, and maybe this phone will come with free Amazon Prime membership, and make things extremely easy for you to buy off Amazon. But what if, you get a discount every time you buy off an Amazon tablet or phone? Like a 2-5% discount per item. That would be a tremendous selling point imo.
and btw, this isn't going to be your usual Android OS on there, its going to be heavily forked. Its quite possible that the OS will look nothing like what we see on Android OS now.
I bought my smartphone based on price and specifications. I see plenty of users rage over application ecosystems that are barely more than tarted up websites and credit card scanners.
Being frugal means being the so loved spec whore.
Kindle, Kindle, Kindle, Kindle, Kindle, Kindle, Kindle, ...
BEcause Amazon makes sure that their Kindle books can be used on many brands & types of equipment. I wanted to read my ebooks on more than my iPad. Things like my Mac & Android Smart Phone. Apple couldn't even take care of me on my Mac that they allow make, I mean have made for them by some Chinese firm or the other.
Besides there is any Mac, iOS or Apple news or rumors anymore. If Apple was suing someone or someone suing Apple there would be no news or rumors to report. At least Apple's lawyers are working & innovating.
Amazon supplies much of my computer, music, movies, Kindle books & other purchases. They mean more to me than these so called re-done & re-re-done Apple rumors. I'm glad to see something new. This is something that can be added to my Android telephone, iPad, iPod Touch & many, many Macs. Even if all we want to think about is the Mac here alongside the iToy devices we need something new to read every month or two. Keep up the good work.
BEcause Amazon makes sure that their Kindle books can be used on many brands & types of equipment. I wanted to read my ebooks on more than my iPad. Things like my Mac & Android Smart Phone. Apple couldn't even take care of me on my Mac that they allow make, I mean have made for them by some Chinese firm or the other.
Besides there is any Mac, iOS or Apple news or rumors anymore. If Apple was suing someone or someone suing Apple there would be no news or rumors to report. At least Apple's lawyers are working & innovating.
Amazon supplies much of my computer, music, movies, Kindle books & other purchases. They mean more to me than these so called re-done & re-re-done Apple rumors. I'm glad to see something new. This is something that can be added to my Android telephone, iPad, iPod Touch & many, many Macs. Even if all we want to think about is the Mac here alongside the iToy devices we need something new to read every month or two. Keep up the good work.
Hey thats not too far from now, I'm pretty sure we all know that they will have to mention their tablets.
With a $250 price tag, we can assume this device wont be powerful, but they had to make it just right so it can work like a kindle plus some more.
I think this is a brilliant idea, if you want to take market share from apple, start at a lower price, focus on the device being easy to use, no need to focus on going all out on the OS and adding a bazillion features, just give them a bookstore, music/video player, email, and a great internet experience and you have got the necessities people like ipad owners are looking for.
They can go a step further and focus on specific markets like students or enterprise uses, which apple doesn't focus on directly (although there are apps for such)
With a $250 price tag, we can assume this device wont be powerful, but they had to make it just right so it can work like a kindle plus some more.
I think this is a brilliant idea, if you want to take market share from apple, start at a lower price, focus on the device being easy to use, no need to focus on going all out on the OS and adding a bazillion features, just give them a bookstore, music/video player, email, and a great internet experience and you have got the necessities people like ipad owners are looking for.
They can go a step further and focus on specific markets like students or enterprise uses, which apple doesn't focus on directly (although there are apps for such)
Dude, most people do not look at price & specification. The reason why people buy iPhone is because of the shiny package + ecosystem. Oh and "it just works".
Off Topic Much?
the amazon arrow looks like a penis........
You might need a medical check-up if that's what yours looks like..
Haven't you ever noticed, the Amazon line is a grin with a dimple on the cheek. Sheeeeesh.
Mind = blown.
You're right - from outside the closet it doesn't look anything like a penis, unless you get hot looking at symbols like
I guess it's possible he has a penis fixation. I'd be afraid to hear what he'd say about a banana.
Or a couple of Norman Foster's buildings
Look how nicely they fit together!
Lol, that guy remember me the time I went to the see Watchmen in IMAX Screen, every time Dr. Manhattan appeared naked with that thing hanging around a guy in the next row made a silly sound every single time , kinda pervert..
because its not an online source. its an offhand source that works at LoveFilm, which is owned by Amazon. This user was tasked to put LoveFilm compatibility on Amazon tablets/phones.
you don't have to believe me. it could turn out to be a flat out lie. i'm just throwing it out there.