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When I first read that news, I thought they meant Neil Morrissey, which would've been ridiculous.
I actually really enjoyed that episode. I think they hit a really important theme that needs to be explored in future episodes: stuff happened.
Short answer, yes. Graphic novel spoilers here... Long answer, it's complicated... since Daryl isn't in the graphic novel at all, the show is following the story line of the novel in that the Governor is someone that they have never met before. I actually thought it would have fit really nicely to have Daryl's brother be the Governor. That way he would take the hand of the person (Rick) largely responsible for taking his own hand. Would have really tied this new story line together nicely and provided a huge point of conflict for Daryl's character... does he stay true to blood and betray the group for his brother? Or does he betray his blood and follow someone that he seems to respect... not out of fear, but out of mutual respect. Oh well.
I can't believe I forgot to check in on this thread during the 2nd half of the season (sorry I wasn't around 
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Seeing Michonne was the best reward they could give us for that horrible Sophia arc (although at least they did make her second death pretty cool to watch.)
The Governor's already been cast - cant wait to see how they write him for TV...I do like how they revisited that helicopter in Atlanta (surely the same one Rick saw on his way in), which happened to lead the zombies out to Hershel's farm (I think the farm was eventually overrun by zombies in the book too, but after they were already at the prison...)
A few bits I missed talking about...
Dale: I know they want some excitement to the story, but they shouldn't be killing off main characters so willy-nillly. They already tried it at the CDC, and book readers KNEW that wasn't gonna happen. I think Dale should've made it to Season 3 at least. I think one of the Exec Producers Said on Talking Dead that it was originally going to be Herschel who "bought the farm", which also would've been a bad move.
Shane: So he finally got killed - at least they paid homage to the book by letting Carl shoot him, if only for his second death. Shane went bonkers REALLY early in the comic (only an issue after Amy got killed), so I always thought they kept him on the show too long.
I think someone else already said that Rick should've dispatched him after the first betrayal - I agree. I think that shows plenty that Shane was already unhinged enough to be a real threat to the group.
Andrea: I'm glad she's finally coming around to how she should be in the story. They were able to show her on her own (after everyone unknowingly left her there) and being able to defend herself...and as a nice bonus, epic character intro
This is gonna be a long wait for Season 3 to start...made only a little easier because The Killing is coming back for its second season, and I've been waiting for that too.
So obviously Michonne/Prison were my favorite parts of this season, what were everyone else's?
)Seeing Michonne was the best reward they could give us for that horrible Sophia arc (although at least they did make her second death pretty cool to watch.)
The Governor's already been cast - cant wait to see how they write him for TV...I do like how they revisited that helicopter in Atlanta (surely the same one Rick saw on his way in), which happened to lead the zombies out to Hershel's farm (I think the farm was eventually overrun by zombies in the book too, but after they were already at the prison...)
A few bits I missed talking about...
Dale: I know they want some excitement to the story, but they shouldn't be killing off main characters so willy-nillly. They already tried it at the CDC, and book readers KNEW that wasn't gonna happen. I think Dale should've made it to Season 3 at least. I think one of the Exec Producers Said on Talking Dead that it was originally going to be Herschel who "bought the farm", which also would've been a bad move.
Shane: So he finally got killed - at least they paid homage to the book by letting Carl shoot him, if only for his second death. Shane went bonkers REALLY early in the comic (only an issue after Amy got killed), so I always thought they kept him on the show too long.
I think someone else already said that Rick should've dispatched him after the first betrayal - I agree. I think that shows plenty that Shane was already unhinged enough to be a real threat to the group.
Andrea: I'm glad she's finally coming around to how she should be in the story. They were able to show her on her own (after everyone unknowingly left her there) and being able to defend herself...and as a nice bonus, epic character intro
This is gonna be a long wait for Season 3 to start...made only a little easier because The Killing is coming back for its second season, and I've been waiting for that too.
So obviously Michonne/Prison were my favorite parts of this season, what were everyone else's?
The blood bath at the farm, the arrival of Michonne, seeing the prison and Rick turning into a baddy during the last two episodes.
Man fall can't come soon enough. I soo can't wait to see what they do with the Governer and Michonne
Man fall can't come soon enough. I soo can't wait to see what they do with the Governer and Michonne
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Okay, watching the show has gotten me interested in the comic series. For those of you who have read the comics how do you suggest one go about reading them on a budget. I can't afford to buy all of the issues as I think they are currently close to issue #90. I know there are trade paperbacks and such, but is there anywhere online one could go to read them?
What do you all suggest?
What do you all suggest?
I started asking for the hardcover volumes for Christmas last year...brought me up to speed fairly quickly I can't believe how much they're charging for the comics through iBooks (A 5 issue arc for $10...so by the time you've bought up to current, it's nearly $150, which is INSANE for an eBook.)
I wonder if you can get them cheaper through Kindle...(Oh god, did I actually just ask that? I can't stand Kindle's book formatting, but it might be cheaper.)
I can't believe how much they're charging for the comics through iBooks (A 5 issue arc for $10...so by the time you've bought up to current, it's nearly $150, which is INSANE for an eBook.)I wonder if you can get them cheaper through Kindle...(Oh god, did I actually just ask that? I can't stand Kindle's book formatting, but it might be cheaper.)
I've recently got back into comics. I don't advocate bit torrent, and I'm not a collector. I just want to read the stories.
So I go to my local library and borrow them. We have a pretty good system in my county. I can go to any of the local branches or they can share them across the county.
I was very surprised at what they had available. I've been catching up with a lot of the story lines for both DC and Marvel.
Take a look at what your local library has to offer. I think you'll be very surprised at the diversity of material available for lending.
This.
However My local library had the first four volumes of Walking Dead on extremely long wait list. I picked up the "Compendium One" that covers issues 1-48 (about half the series to date) on Amazon for ~$35. That covers the first 8 volumes iTunes has for $10 each.
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I've always been interested in these end of the world gotta survive stories. Always like to think about what I would do if i was in their shoes...
I've never read any of the books so I don't know the story other than what has been shown in season 1 & 2.
1. Find a place you can defend. I was thinking of a prison or an island.
2. Upgrade your kit. By now they should all be packing M16s, a nifty sidearm, and a Machete. With 99.99% of the population now undead those things shouldn't be too hard to find. Look for them in Police Stations, Army Bases, Gun Shops, Sporting good stores.
3. How about pimpin' the ride? They couldn't upgrade that cranky RV? How about kicking the tires at a new car dealership, truck dealer, Army base.
4. How about getting hold of a generator, a shortwave radio, a ham radio... there are safety in numbers.... how about looking for more survivors?
5. What ever happened to going to Fort Benning? I was there in '72 and was looking forward to seeing it again.
I've never read any of the books so I don't know the story other than what has been shown in season 1 & 2.
1. Find a place you can defend. I was thinking of a prison or an island.
2. Upgrade your kit. By now they should all be packing M16s, a nifty sidearm, and a Machete. With 99.99% of the population now undead those things shouldn't be too hard to find. Look for them in Police Stations, Army Bases, Gun Shops, Sporting good stores.
3. How about pimpin' the ride? They couldn't upgrade that cranky RV? How about kicking the tires at a new car dealership, truck dealer, Army base.
4. How about getting hold of a generator, a shortwave radio, a ham radio... there are safety in numbers.... how about looking for more survivors?
5. What ever happened to going to Fort Benning? I was there in '72 and was looking forward to seeing it again.
1. This is key. Their first camp was not very defendable and they got overrun. They ended up at a farm, which had natural defenses (i.e. swamp, harsh terrain), but the change in season allowed the swamp to dry and the walkers to pass. In the last episode, Rick (the leader) says they need to find a place that they can defend.
2. The problem with going to those places with weapons is that at the onset of the outbreak, everyone will have had the same idea. Loads of people in a small area means the walkers are gonna head there for some food. These places are likely to still be loaded with walkers.
3. Great idea, however, the survivors have more to worry about than turning the RV into the Stripes RV.
4. Generator and radios are a great idea. Other survivors .... maybe not. They encountered another set of survivors and their intentions weren't good.
5. Fort Benning was where they were heading before they got sidetracked at the farm. When they encountered the other survivors, they were told that Fort Benning was overrun. They don't know whether that's the truth or not, but it's a good bet that it would be overrun.
EDIT - STUPID ME. I misread your post. I thought that you hadn't been watching the show. I just thought you had great ideas about a zombie apocolypse. I didn't need to explain all of this.
Sorry.
I finally caught the last episode. One thing bothered me. If you recall recently, Lori was hanging on Rick, warning him about Shane, telling him "Shane is dangerous", all most as if she was asking him to do something, as in "take care of" Shane. Then in the last episode, when he tells her that Shane tried to kill him, but he killed Shane, and then Carl put him down, she acts all sick and revolted, pushing him away like he was a bad person. WTF?! Is this why there is Lori hate around? Can't we blame it on her hormones, lol?
Also I know in the comic something very shocking happens in the prison. But the way events have unfolded in the TV show, for those of you who are familiar, I don't really seeing that happen in the show, but ya never know... Please cover spoiler responses!
Just caught the Season 2 Finale last night on AMC. Watched it TWO times.
The general framework is similar, Atlanta-Farm-Prison, however they have killed off some characters that at the same point were still alive in the comic and they have introduced characters not in the comic.
I completely understand different pacing for a TV show versus a graphic Novel. I thought they spent too much time on the Farm. Looking for missing Sophia should have only been two episodes, however in hindsight I'm happy with the way they developed the Rick-Shane conflict and ended Season 2 with the prison on the horizon. The writers wanted to save that for Season 3. Just remember this based on the Graphic Novel (Comic), but it is not the Comic. I've mentioned before, that Shane on the TV show was more like Rick in the comic. Now that Shane is dead on the TV show, Rick is turning into a tougher dude.
I was aggravated they killed off Dale. I liked the values Dale threw into the conversation to counter the survival morality that is prevailing in the group. I really like Darryl who was not in the comic.
Yes, Michonne (the katana wielder with chained walkers) and the Prison got me excited and the hint of the Governor, the roving group they fought a couple of episodes ago shows great promise for the show.
Have you read the comic? A prison is in their future...
Maybe they could have found a better RV, but being able to have beds on wheels is a good deal when in survival mode and attractive females are in your party.
Also I know in the comic something very shocking happens in the prison. But the way events have unfolded in the TV show, for those of you who are familiar, I don't really seeing that happen in the show, but ya never know...
Please cover spoiler responses!Just caught the Season 2 Finale last night on AMC. Watched it TWO times.
The general framework is similar, Atlanta-Farm-Prison, however they have killed off some characters that at the same point were still alive in the comic and they have introduced characters not in the comic.
I completely understand different pacing for a TV show versus a graphic Novel. I thought they spent too much time on the Farm. Looking for missing Sophia should have only been two episodes, however in hindsight I'm happy with the way they developed the Rick-Shane conflict and ended Season 2 with the prison on the horizon. The writers wanted to save that for Season 3. Just remember this based on the Graphic Novel (Comic), but it is not the Comic. I've mentioned before, that Shane on the TV show was more like Rick in the comic. Now that Shane is dead on the TV show, Rick is turning into a tougher dude.
I can't believe I forgot to check in on this thread during the 2nd half of the season (sorry I wasn't around
Seeing Michonne was the best reward they could give us for that horrible Sophia arc (although at least they did make her second death pretty cool to watch.)
The Governor's already been cast - cant wait to see how they write him for TV...I do like how they revisited that helicopter in Atlanta (surely the same one Rick saw on his way in), which happened to lead the zombies out to Hershel's farm (I think the farm was eventually overrun by zombies in the book too, but after they were already at the prison...)
A few bits I missed talking about...
Dale: I know they want some excitement to the story, but they shouldn't be killing off main characters so willy-nillly. They already tried it at the CDC, and book readers KNEW that wasn't gonna happen. I think Dale should've made it to Season 3 at least. I think one of the Exec Producers Said on Talking Dead that it was originally going to be Herschel who "bought the farm", which also would've been a bad move.
Shane: So he finally got killed - at least they paid homage to the book by letting Carl shoot him, if only for his second death. Shane went bonkers REALLY early in the comic (only an issue after Amy got killed), so I always thought they kept him on the show too long.
I think someone else already said that Rick should've dispatched him after the first betrayal - I agree. I think that shows plenty that Shane was already unhinged enough to be a real threat to the group.
Andrea: I'm glad she's finally coming around to how she should be in the story. They were able to show her on her own (after everyone unknowingly left her there) and being able to defend herself...and as a nice bonus, epic character intro
This is gonna be a long wait for Season 3 to start...made only a little easier because The Killing is coming back for its second season, and I've been waiting for that too.
So obviously Michonne/Prison were my favorite parts of this season, what were everyone else's?
I was aggravated they killed off Dale. I liked the values Dale threw into the conversation to counter the survival morality that is prevailing in the group. I really like Darryl who was not in the comic.
Yes, Michonne (the katana wielder with chained walkers) and the Prison got me excited and the hint of the Governor, the roving group they fought a couple of episodes ago shows great promise for the show.
Have you read the comic? A prison is in their future...
Maybe they could have found a better RV, but being able to have beds on wheels is a good deal when in survival mode and attractive females are in your party.
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Even before I found out he was cast for season three, as soon as I saw the gang and then heard about their antics, I told the wife, they sound like the guys that go out and do the hunting, scouting and pillaging of the masses for the Governor!
I am super excited!!!
theres a book? i can't believe i never saw this thread. the show is great but soooooooo much drama. i can't believe the way lori acted in the last episode. what a biotch! we all know its shanes little mutant baby.
The way I look at it, human drama, lots of it can be real, and even if it is over done a little, do you want boring instead? Remember the focus of this story is humans and human relationships in apocalyptic survival mode.
I'd say there is more than an equal chance due to circumstances that the kid is Shane's. Ya know, but Rick understands or at least says he does. I agree that Lori is acting inconsistently. I believe the writers are messing with us.
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Her reaction was horror, but the thing that really seemed to upset her was that Carl shot zombie Shane and that's what took her over the edge. I think it's important to remember that Lori is a bit of Macbeth, she wants things taken care of, but she's not going to be comfortable if that comes with consequences.
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They tend towards hurry up and wait rather than pacing something through a show. For instance, the search of Sophia was a problem because the characters spent so much time talking about searching for Sophia and less time actually searching. We needed more time dealing with the consequences of having those people out there: illustrated wonderfully by Daryl's fall and hallucinations.
Slow pacing is fine, but TWD flirts with meandering and then something spectacular happens.
Regarding Lori, it's as if she has a hard time reconciling what she asked for versus the end result. It still bothered me because instead of being comforted knowing this particular threat was dealt with, especially when Rick told her that his life had been threatened first, she pulled away from Rick in a disapproving manner before she even know that Carl was involved. In the comic and in the show, Carl saved his Father's life. Sometimes it can be argued that a bit too much drama has been injected into the story. I'm really not happy they killed off Dale.
Darryl's adventure in the woods was one of the high points in this season IMO. You are right, more of that would have been good.
The way I look at it, human drama, lots of it can be real, and even if it is over done a little, do you want boring instead? Remember the focus of this story is humans and human relationships in apocalyptic survival mode.
I'd say there is more than an equal chance due to circumstances that the kid is Shane's. Ya know, but Rick understands or at least says he does. I agree that Lori is acting inconsistently. I believe the writers are messing with us.
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Love the picture.... cracked me up.
As Huntn said, Daryl's great, but seems like they really short-changed Merle.
He was basically only in one episode, and the intro to the following episode. (Aside from the "ghost Merle" that Daryl sees...) They left it "open" that he could eventually return, but we're now essentially 1.5 seasons in (I'd call season 1 "half" a season with only 6 episodes.)
While he does have the truck, he, like everyone else, has had limited fuel, they made it all the way to a farm, and now they're even further out. I can't believe that he would've followed them without either attacking Rick or T-Dog or just to rejoin his brother...
He was basically only in one episode, and the intro to the following episode. (Aside from the "ghost Merle" that Daryl sees...) They left it "open" that he could eventually return, but we're now essentially 1.5 seasons in (I'd call season 1 "half" a season with only 6 episodes.)
While he does have the truck, he, like everyone else, has had limited fuel, they made it all the way to a farm, and now they're even further out. I can't believe that he would've followed them without either attacking Rick or T-Dog or just to rejoin his brother...
What if Merle turns out to be the Governor? Baseless speculation.
For those who have not read the comic spoiler>The Governor is the head of a fortified town who captures some of our survivors and does some bad things. He's a despot. <end spoiler.
What if Merle turns out to be the Governor? Baseless speculation.
I thought the governor was already cast as someone else?
Yeah, that's what I proposed a couple episodes back... and it would have made a lot of sense too. And... added a lot of drama for Daryl re:following Rick and the group or following his brother. But oh well.What if Merle turns out to be the Governor? Baseless speculation.
I was not too focused on that when I made my statement. I know, Merle will be one of his henchmen!!