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Can't believe that Maggie & Glenn would leave the group and her sister Beth to go with the guys heading for DC. :(

I can take it as it is, but using the comic as a reference, I have no clue why they would split up. Any speculation for those with better memories than me? :)

VI™;20243393 said:
I think the show kind of lost it's way when Darabont was forced out. He had a grand vision and AMC didn't think it was worth investing the money on their number one show that they actually owned. Kind of dumb in my opinion and it could have cost them in the long run, but I think it's really found it's footing again and is moving forward. The end of season 4 was really good as well.

Maybe they were not convinced enough to invest more money, hence this is why the characters spent just about an entire season on the farm, looking for Sophia. Which after the stellar, but short first season, became the low point of the series.
 
No better memory than you. That's why I had to reread it!

They stayed together from meeting Gabriel to DC. I need to go further back to revisit the inner group struggles after Ben's death. I remember Rick putting his foot down as group leader but didn't get back that far.

They actually got me to pay $2.99 for issue 131. 130 was a setup to quite a cliffhanger, but that's for another thread... I can't wait until they echo that in the TV series!

B
 
I can take it as it is, but using the comic as a reference, I have no clue why they would split up. Any speculation for those with better memories than me? :)



Maybe they were not convinced enough to invest more money, hence this is why the characters spent just about an entire season on the farm, looking for Sophia. Which after the stellar, but short first season, became the low point of the series.

Well The Walking Dead had already surpassed Mad Men, which AMC spent more money on, IIRC and didn't fully own like they did with TWD. It's like they were being greedy.
 
No better memory than you. That's why I had to reread it!

They stayed together from meeting Gabriel to DC. I need to go further back to revisit the inner group struggles after Ben's death. I remember Rick putting his foot down as group leader but didn't get back that far.

They actually got me to pay $2.99 for issue 131. 130 was a setup to quite a cliffhanger, but that's for another thread... I can't wait until they echo that in the TV series!

B

Hmm, I have downloaded up to Issue 130 but have not yet read it. Now anticipating... :)

VI™;20244483 said:
Well The Walking Dead had already surpassed Mad Men, which AMC spent more money on, IIRC and didn't fully own like they did with TWD. It's like they were being greedy.

Maybe the bean counters thought it was a flash in the pan...
 
Hmm, I have downloaded up to Issue 130 but have not yet read it. Now anticipating... :)



Maybe the bean counters thought it was a flash in the pan...

http://screenrant.com/walking-dead-frank-darabont-amc-aco-127783/

The news of Frank Darabont stepping down from AMC’s hit series The Walking Dead took everyone by surprise. This feeling grew even more when it was revealed that Darabont didn’t step down, but was actually fired.

With fans seeking to find out why the man who championed last year’s television phenomenon was unceremoniously fired days after appearing at Comic-Con 2011, The Hollywood Reporter is presenting the facts as they know them – including the chaotic mess in which The Walking Dead season 2 currently finds itself.

Shortly after his appearance at Comic-Con, Darabont returned to Los Angeles to work on editing an episode of the upcoming second season of The Walking Dead. With the cast in Atlanta to continue filming, Ben Davis, AMC vice-president of scripted programming, gathered the cast together for a lunch meeting. In this meeting, he broke the news that Darabont had been fired. With a simple explanation of “This isn’t working,” sources close to the series said that “It’s a crushing blow” and that “Even when you have a hit, they can still destroy you.”

Even though The Walking Dead proved to be a hit – and it is the only series that AMC owns completely – the network had already announced to the producers that they would not only be cutting the budget of the series from $3.4 million to $2.7 million, but that they would also want 13 episodes produced instead of 6 episodes that made up its first season. To make matters worse, AMC also told the producers that the 30% tax credit that the series receives from filming in Georgia would go directly to the network, and not make up for some of the money that was taken out of the production budget.

AMC’s fiscal irresponsibility and their lack of appreciation for those who make The Walking Dead is largely what led to Darabont being fired. Originally taking the announcement of a second season budget cut in stride, the producers of the series decided to wait until the first season premiered. After The Walking Dead began breaking ratings records for the network, the producers assumed their budget wouldn’t be cut as much as originally thought.

Unfortunately, this is exactly what happened – and Darabont wasn’t too happy about it. Known as a man who fights for what he believes in, a confrontation between AMC and The Walking Dead producers occurred. With the head of original programming for AMC, Joel Stillerman, sticking to the cut budget, the network than began to overstep their bounds and attempt to tell Darabont how to produce the series.

Instead of long, sprawling outdoor scenes, the network wanted the second season of The Walking Dead to occur 50% outdoors and 50% indoors (indoors being cheaper to film). Another note asked whether or not the audience had to always see the zombies – couldn’t they simply hear them sometimes.

It’s been said that Darabont was involved in constant battles with the network to maintain the creative vision that drew so many fans to the series in the first place. On top of that, sources say that Darabont “doesn’t like to see the cast and crew overworked and underpaid.” Even with record ratings on their side, Darabont would repeatedly enter meetings with Stillerman where he would simply say, “Ratings have no bearing on this conversation.” Stillerman is somewhat known for not being the “best person” to deal with. With rumors persisting that he has poor relationships with most of AMC’s series creators, insiders have begun to say that “Joel [Stillerman] thinks he is responsible for the success of shows on AMC, and not the creators.”

With AMC making a leap into the forefront of scripted television, there’s always been a sense of the network going through growing pains. Not only is AMC doing it on their own (they have no parent company to support them), but they’re also trying to maintain a quality which rivals that of their pay-cable counterparts, HBO and Showtime.

Unfortunately, AMC only makes 60 cents for each cable subscriber, which isn’t enough to maintain the level of quality they were once able to do when they weren’t expected to pay the same amount as the other networks for programming. That being said, it’s hard to really stand up for a network that’s being championed by someone who’s a complete contrarian to the creative process.

walking dead comic cast The Walking Dead: Why Frank Darabont Was Fired & The Chaotic AftermathThe cast of The Walking Dead

Even if AMC was trying to do what’s best for the network (without having to operate at a loss – something that HBO does, but is evened out by HBO being owned by Time Warner), there comes a point when taking a loss for the quality of the product is more important for the long term.

As the saying goes, “Good things come to those who wait.”

AMC has been waiting a long time to make it this far. Jumping from simply replaying old movies to creating original content – this all comes with a price. While not everything will make the financial return that you’re hoping for, it rarely does when you’re first starting out. And for AMC, they’re most certainly starting out.

Hopefully AMC will make it through these growing pains intact. If not, you can sure bet that there are many other cable networks willing to take over in the place (and have the money to do it).

Now that Glen Mazzara is taking over for Frank Darabont, we’ll have to wait and see what happens when The Walking Dead season 2 premieres.

Fingers crossed.

I think they knew what they were dealing with and just got greedy. There's a ton of articles out there that a quick Google search will pull up about the issue.
 
No better memory than you. That's why I had to reread it!

They stayed together from meeting Gabriel to DC. I need to go further back to revisit the inner group struggles after Ben's death. I remember Rick putting his foot down as group leader but didn't get back that far.

They actually got me to pay $2.99 for issue 131. 130 was a setup to quite a cliffhanger, but that's for another thread... I can't wait until they echo that in the TV series!

B

Yes it was! I mentioned in this thread I belive! Pretty good setup!
 
There is a real Grady Hospital? I wonder if any of it was filmed there...

Oh yes, there certainly is a real Grady Hospital. In Atlanta, it is often said that you are not a true Atlantan unless you were a "Grady Baby." I've been to many of the locations where they film this show. The also filmed "In the Heat of the Night" and "Dukes of Hazzard" in Covington. The movie, "Smokey & the Bandit" was filmed in Jonesboro. Right now, they are filming something called "The Outsiders" in Monroe, where I live.

The Walking Dead Television Show Filming Locations Google Map

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What was with the magical jump from being far away from the firetruck and then after the commercial, right back in front of it? Are we supposed to believe that After Eugene dropped that bomb, they walked all the way back to the truck and then started asking him questions? That bothered me for some weird reason.
 
I can't wait to catch this episode.

They didn't keep Eugene's tell from the book so it will be interesting to see how they reveal him,

B
 
Spoiler-> Ok, so now I know about Eugene. :p

Although it is more viewable in a quote, it appears that white type for the purpose of hiding spoilers can't be read when using my iPad. Anyone else can't see this? If so, I won't be using that again.
 
What was with the magical jump from being far away from the firetruck and then after the commercial, right back in front of it? Are we supposed to believe that After Eugene dropped that bomb, they walked all the way back to the truck and then started asking him questions? That bothered me for some weird reason.

Agreed. Poor continuity.

Although it is more viewable in a quote, it appears that white type for the purpose of hiding spoilers can't be read when using my iPad. Anyone else can't see this? If so, I won't be using that again.

Same here on iPhone.
 
What was with the magical jump from being far away from the firetruck and then after the commercial, right back in front of it? Are we supposed to believe that After Eugene dropped that bomb, they walked all the way back to the truck and then started asking him questions? That bothered me for some weird reason.

Blooper. :(

Same here on iPhone.

Thanks for confirming!
 
I want them to go back to the good ole days where they could bounce back and forth between groups, and not devote entire episodes to only one group and one story line.

If this has become impossible, I hope everyone reunites soon!
 
I want them to go back to the good ole days where they could bounce back and forth between groups, and not devote entire episodes to only one group and one story line.

If this has become impossible, I hope everyone reunites soon!

I believe the current excursion to the Atlanta hospital is filler until next season and the move to DC.
 
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